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A9 or Beolab 17 ?

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leduds Posted: Thu, May 21 2015 10:08 PM

Hello, 

I am hesitating between A9 Mk2 and a pair of Beolab 17? What would be your advice (pros and cons) ? Thanks in advance. 

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Paul W replied on Thu, May 21 2015 10:18 PM

Hi Leduds, in terms of sound quality, the BL17 would be world's apart from the A9 simply because of stereo separation. You'll hear the difference the minute you hear the A9 compared to BL17 with speakers say 2 or 3 metres apart from each other. The BL17 is HiFi whereas the A9 is more lifestyle.

Ideally your B&O dealer should allow a home demo of the two :)

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elephant replied on Thu, May 21 2015 10:33 PM
And two A9s do not make a stereo pair (or so I was told)

On the other hand I loved the bass volume that the A9 seemed to drive

Although I admit I never drive BL17s that hard

And for "design" I prefer A9s but our rooms and my need for stereo meant I had to pass the A9 by

However if I had a bachelor pad ....

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Duels replied on Thu, May 21 2015 10:35 PM
The rose gold edition of the A9 is stunning.
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leduds:

Hello, 

I am hesitating between A9 Mk2 and a pair of Beolab 17? What would be your advice (pros and cons) ? Thanks in advance. 

I'd say, it depends on, for what you are going to use them and where.

Please tell us more about that.

And don't forget - the A9 is a sound system (just stream to it).

The BL17's need some kind of pre-pro/-amp (or an AirPort Expres...), before you get sound from them - unless you want to connect e.g. a smartphone/tablet directly to them

MM

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elephant replied on Thu, May 21 2015 10:44 PM
Duels:

The rose gold edition of the A9 is stunning.

An excellent point

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leduds replied on Fri, May 22 2015 12:35 PM

Thanks to all prompt contributors to this thread. 

I must admit I'm quite attracted by the unique look of the A9, although conscious of the potential  quality gap with Lab17s. I mainly (not to say exclusively) listen streamed music from Qobuz. 

Should I opt for the Lab17s, they would be connected to a Playmaker I kept from a previous setup. Not intersted in NL so far, so I don't think future Essence Mk2 would add anything significant. 

Not that easy choice, isn't it ? Especially considering the previously mentionned 90th anniversary edition rose gold...

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Paul W replied on Fri, May 22 2015 2:07 PM

The rose gold looks great doesn't it. Maybe if your dealer delivered one to your house as well as the 17s, you'd be able to make your mind up instantly. It's the only real way to choose :)

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Paul W replied on Fri, May 22 2015 2:08 PM

The rose gold A9 looks amazing next to wooden legged VITA chairs by the way :)

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leduds replied on Fri, May 22 2015 3:02 PM

Would probably take both 😊

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Paul W replied on Fri, May 22 2015 3:14 PM

:)

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Duels replied on Fri, May 22 2015 3:22 PM
leduds:

Would probably take both 😊

Now we're talking!
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leduds replied on Sat, May 23 2015 8:27 PM

I went to my dealer in Paris yesterday and finally opted for Lab17s, blue covers, table stand. I fiund the sound really smooth, envelopping. 

Still have regrets for A9's amazing design :-(

Let's be patient ! 

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Don't have regrets for A9. I got this A9 Mk2 Rose Golden and it is outstanding - however 17s gives you more options in future expansion, WISA streaming, stereo separation.

I bought A9 originally for my bedroom, now using it in living room but I still do plan Beloab 18s.

Design-wise... ...yes, A9 looks stunning. But I think 17s understated elegance is on the other side a representation of  "as little design as possible" phillosophy. Just think how visible or invisible you can make them, based on your room design change, :)

Enjoy your new speakers! ;)

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BeoGreg replied on Mon, May 25 2015 8:24 AM
Great for your Lab 17's. They are incredible for the size. Each time I go to my dealer I ask for a demo and we smile at how good they are.
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leduds replied on Mon, May 25 2015 4:35 PM

Indeed, I am more than happy with my choice. Finally, the design, although discreet, has something special and the sound is just unexpected for such a small cabinet : not only how loud they can play but also how precise they are ! 

Now, I have a problem left : the speakers are for sure B&O but the Playmaker .... It is definitely not B&O : not to mention the design, it lacks this magic you would usually find using a B&O device. 

Waiting for Essence Mk2, investing in Moment ? I just played with Moment for a couple of minutes at my dealer's, ok fine, but I am not totally convinced. 

 

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Sal replied on Mon, May 25 2015 5:01 PM

Congratulations on your Beolab 17's. They always surprise me at how small and svelte they are, and what a large sound they pack. They're the next-gen Beolab 4000's to me (from a design perspective). An most underrated speaker. 

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leduds:

Now, I have a problem left : the speakers are for sure B&O but the Playmaker .... It is definitely not B&O : not to mention the design, it lacks this magic you would usually find using a B&O device. 

The only problem you have there is, that you dislike it.

What does it mean to be a B&O product to you?

I know of no other device (apart from the Essence and the A9) that works this way.

AirPlay something to it (or use DLNA) and it starts playing. Connect a device to the line-in, start playback there, and it starts playing without having to push any further button.

Use the scroll wheel on the device (just like with the A9) to control volumen or use your remote.

It is a simple but powerfull piece of audio gear.

It can be connected to a free Aux port (or an A.Tape port) of a B&O AudioMaster and this way distribute the sound from all its three inputs to other MasterLinked rooms.

To me it is a magical device, because it just works without the fuzz of pushing buttons, and it gives me a lot of possibilities with my B&O setup, that I did not have before.

To me it has 'the magic of a B&O device' - whatever that may be!

Design however, is a personal choice. You may say, that you don't like the design of it - but that again is a personal choice.

But don't worry - the Playmaker is not for sale any more (unless you go looking for a pre-used one). Go for the Essence/Essence 2nd Generation, if you want simplicity.

With that (and with the Playmaker) and your new speakers your friends will wonder, where the music comes from - that is magic!

MM

 

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leduds replied on Mon, May 25 2015 5:45 PM
Dear Millimissen, I just mean that Playmaker is just as magic as a Sonos... a square piece of plastic. Yes, you are right, it is easy to use and offer and offers many possibilities : this is the reason why I have connected my new Lab17's to it. But ... sorry : whether it should not be shown, then the Essence concept is smart, whether it shows some B&O (whatever it means to the B&O consummer I have been for the past 25 years, from Lab8000, to Beosound 9000, Avant or Beosound 5, amongst others), and must have this magic which, sorry to insist, totally lacks in Playmaker. You are right, that is a great device as far as possibility and easy-to-use feature is concerned. Cheers

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jowus replied on Tue, May 26 2015 10:01 AM
leduds:

Dear Millimissen, I just mean that Playmaker is just as magic as a Sonos... a square piece of plastic. Yes, you are right, it is easy to use and offer and offers many possibilities : this is the reason why I have connected my new Lab17's to it. But ... sorry : whether it should not be shown, then the Essence concept is smart, whether it shows some B&O (whatever it means to the B&O consummer I have been for the past 25 years, from Lab8000, to Beosound 9000, Avant or Beosound 5, amongst others), and must have this magic which, sorry to insist, totally lacks in Playmaker. You are right, that is a great device as far as possibility and easy-to-use feature is concerned. Cheers Beoplay V1-40" - Beo4 - Playmaker - Beolab 17 - Beotime - H3 - H6 - Beoplayer & Beoremote Apps

Is very much so,👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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jowus:

Is very much so,👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

B&O owners generally are very conservative, when it comes to design.

That 'is very much so' too.

MM

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