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Beogram Stylus Arm Height

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Chris Posted: Sun, May 31 2015 2:08 AM

Hi.  I recently purchased a restored Beogram 5005 with a MMC4 cartridge.  Everything has been going great and I am really pleased that I bought it.  However, I am having issues with some of the new vinyl being released.  Some are so thick that they make contact with the stylus in the raised position.  Any suggestions to overcome this apart from buying thinner records?

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chartz replied on Sun, May 31 2015 2:14 AM

Same issue for me. 

Jacques

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How thick are these records??

I have some 180g vinyl and they are not that much thicker than standard.

Regards Graham

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Chris replied on Sun, May 31 2015 7:45 AM

Hi.  Thanks for your interest.

 

The vinyl is 180 gram.  I have the same issue with a thin slip mat.  I guess I can only try lowering the tracking force and avoid buying the heavier vinyl.

I did ask the guy who restored it.  Said was the arm is the correct height as listed by B & O.

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I must have restored 50-100 Beograms by now, possibly more. I have never seen this issue and none of my clients have complained!

My test record is a 180g version of Brothers In Arms

Your deck is definitely not set up as per the service manual spec.

Regards Graham

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Dave Farr replied on Sun, May 31 2015 10:41 AM

I agree with Graham.

None of my many decks has a problem with 180g or 220g vinyl.  Re-check the set-up and adjust as suggested.

Dave.

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Chris replied on Sun, May 31 2015 10:42 AM

Thanks heaps for the info.  I will keep an eye on it.

Do you take on restoration projects or repairs for people or do you restore for a hobby?

 

Cheers

 

Chris

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I only restore items that I am going to sell on.

Regards Graham

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Lee replied on Sun, May 31 2015 11:34 AM
Maybe one of the carriage rails has come out of its clips?
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Chris replied on Sun, May 31 2015 11:48 AM

Great.  Thanks very much for the info.Smile

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Lee:
Maybe one of the carriage rails has come out of its clips?
Agree

Regards Graham

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chartz replied on Sun, May 31 2015 5:07 PM
When I said I had a similar issue, that is because I've found that some recent LPs have a centre hole that is a bit too small, the record thus never quite touching the platter surface. Perhaps our friend has the same problem?

My issue is definitely not an adjustment mishap. Wink

Jacques

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Yes that could well be the case.  I noticed with a couple of new records that on one side there is a better gap between record and stylus.  But on the flip side there is very little.  Must be the hole size and how the record is pressed.  Also, if the vinyl has a very slight buckle that also has an impact.

I am less than impressed with the quality of some of the new records I am buying. Particularly, when I pay nearly $50 Australia dollars for some albums.

I've attached two photos to show what I mean with the same record. 

 

Cheers

Chris

 

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Dillen replied on Mon, Jun 1 2015 7:51 AM

Funnelshaped record ?
I've seen this a couple of times.

Martin

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chartz replied on Mon, Jun 1 2015 8:38 AM

Yes, so have I. But more than a couple of times!

Jacques

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Rich replied on Mon, Jun 1 2015 7:35 PM

Have never seen a 5005 in the flesh, but is it possible to lower the platter?


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Rich replied on Mon, Jun 1 2015 7:37 PM

chartz:
When I said I had a similar issue, that is because I've found that some recent LPs have a centre hole that is a bit too small

This issue was discussed before.  I remember posting a photo of the file I purchased to ream the hole a bit.

I have not encountered this particular problem in over a year.


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Hi.  I was thinking about what Lee said about whether one of the carriage rails could have come away from its clips on my Beogram 5005?  It did travel quite a distance from USA to Australia.  It was very well packed and the platter was locked down by the transport screws.   I've taken a photo of a white part near the platter that I have circled.  Should the end of this white part be sitting there or should it be inside the clip?

I also notice that the data link pins from the turntable plug have been taken out.  Any ideas where I might source them from?

Thanks

Chris

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Lee replied on Thu, Jun 11 2015 10:49 AM

The white bar is where it should be.

Lee

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Chris replied on Thu, Jun 11 2015 11:04 AM

Thanks for letting me know.  Cheers

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Chris:

I also notice that the data link pins from the turntable plug have been taken out.  Any ideas where I might source them from?

Thanks

Chris

Steal them from your tape deck if you don't use it!

Regards Graham

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Lee replied on Thu, Jun 11 2015 5:28 PM
Just steal one pin from the tape deck and they'll both have datalink. It only needs one pin. I can't remember which one though... You'll have to do some trial and error.
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