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@steve
You need only one ML/NL Converter (BeoLink Converter).
But your ML-products will have to be connected (via MasterLink cables), since it is the 'ML-infrastructure', that is connected to the converter.
There are several settings to be made in the converter in regards to which products are connected and how the should react, how to activate these sources on the complete network.
I don't know how the BV5 reacts with the BeoMusic app.
But it has always been possible to use the BV5 for sound without the screen turning on - using the AV-button (before the actual source button).
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
steve1977: Thanks for your reply and help. I used the wording from the B&O web-site (BeoLink Converter). Is this the same as te ML/ML converter or will there be anything else to come?
Thanks for your reply and help. I used the wording from the B&O web-site (BeoLink Converter). Is this the same as te ML/ML converter or will there be anything else to come?
That is the same
steve1977: Does it have to connect via cable to my home network or could be wireless?
Does it have to connect via cable to my home network or could be wireless?
Cable only
steve1977: Would I need one converter for each legacy device?
Would I need one converter for each legacy device?
No. Only one to serve as a bridge between NL and ML
steve1977: Does the new multi-room setup allow to play audio to a BV5 via the BeoMusic App (with NL/ML converter) without turning on the screen (audio-only)?
Does the new multi-room setup allow to play audio to a BV5 via the BeoMusic App (with NL/ML converter) without turning on the screen (audio-only)?
I think you need to give the BV5 the usual commands with the remote to play a source.
Do not know about the screen. I think that is up to how BV5 works and I´m not familiar with it.
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@Ionfred
thanks for your 'review'.
don't you want to integrate your BC2?
It should be possible!
Hiort:steve1977:Would I need one converter for each legacy device?No. Only one to serve as a bridge between NL and ML
BeoNut since '75
Running out of 'commands'/buttons is a problem.
I guess, that is (some of) what using the BeoRemote One can solve.
My above comment was @Lonfred
lonfred:Yesterday I took away my BC2 from my 15 products ML system and placed an Moment and a NL/ML converter (named BCL below) there instead.I also had luck since the new Beomusic App apeard just when I had programmed the new products .The BCL i set to role A-Master.
elephant: Hiort: steve1977: Would I need one converter for each legacy device? No. Only one to serve as a bridge between NL and ML But ... if you choose to break your ML apart and have multiple BLCs do you get better control?
Hiort: steve1977: Would I need one converter for each legacy device? No. Only one to serve as a bridge between NL and ML
steve1977:
But ... if you choose to break your ML apart and have multiple BLCs do you get better control?
...and how would you 'network' several BLC's - in order to manage them with one BeoMusic-app?
Millemissen:...and how would you 'network' several BLC's - in order to manage them with one BeoMusic-app? MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
elephant: Millemissen: ...and how would you 'network' several BLC's - in order to manage them with one BeoMusic-app? MM There is a tv - and there is a BV. I don't know ! But that's why I rely on people like you to advise me However your question implies that BLCs do not have unique names (based on serial numbers ?!?!?) on the network
Millemissen: ...and how would you 'network' several BLC's - in order to manage them with one BeoMusic-app? MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
One can give a BLC a name in the NL network and a alias for in the BeoMusic app. These names are the names visible for the user
Carolpa:B&o uses the types and serialnumbers as a unique address in NL. One can give a BLC a name in the NL network and a alias for in the BeoMusic app. These names are the names visible for the user
Well - never thought about it that way.
I wonder if the benefits of two BLC would justify the costs.
Interesting theme, anyway.
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If you've got a source playing on the moment; you should have the ability to "join" with the plus sign of the landscape view on the new BeoMusic App;
In the v1 have selected the Moment as the "link" product in Source Setup menu?
Seems to me one could connect every BLC to every ML product and name it that product to have more control over it. . .
I.E. beolab 3500 connected to converter then automatically shows up on the BeoMusic App. . .at least it seems that should work;
then you connect your BV7 to it's own BLC converter that also gets a spot on the BeoMusic App and then the "Join" command works on the ML
products and I think will actually toggle between the various sources available on the BeoNet Network... at least I think this is correct.
mjmedlo:Is anyone using the beomusic app with a combination new and old and converter? Just wondering if the BLC will recognize and identify more than one ML product. I realize this is in contradiction to my earlier post but an told that the BLC will do so. Thanks. MJM
Just wondering if the BLC will recognize and identify more than one ML product.
I realize this is in contradiction to my earlier post but an told that the BLC will do so.
Thanks. MJM
That would be great to know. Would really love to have the chance to play (same or separate) music to different room connected through separate legacy devices through ML. If anyone has this setup and can share, this would be brilliant!
steve1977: mjmedlo:Is anyone using the beomusic app with a combination new and old and converter? Just wondering if the BLC will recognize and identify more than one ML product. I realize this is in contradiction to my earlier post but an told that the BLC will do so. Thanks. MJM That would be great to know. Would really love to have the chance to play (same or separate) music to different room connected through separate legacy devices through ML. If anyone has this setup and can share, this would be brilliant!
But a second BLC can see another ML master.
Restrictions I observered until now are the number of audio sources available in the BLC (one can't have twice CD programmed etc). Other restriction you cannot reach every ML product everywhere.
Best is to switch to NL and add the ML audio directjy to a BLC (in V Mode)
I am sure, that a lot more is possible.
Be patient - the guys in Struer are doing, what they can - Rome was not built in a day.
steve1977:That would be great to know. Would really love to have the chance to play (same or separate) music to different room connected through separate legacy devices through ML. If anyone has this setup and can share, this would be brilliant!
Thanks for checking, that's a pity though.
lonfred:I understand that if you want separate music but for same music in different ML rooms I belive that its only a question of programing then with or without BLGW.
lonfred:Yes, me to. But I need to jump between Beolink App and Beomusic App. Just one app to use have been success!
lonfred:The Moment and BLC works really good, my ML system seems to be 15 years younger! I have resigned the BEO4/Beolink app CD button to Deezer and the Radio button to Tuneln and simply select what to play on the Beomusic app then I can "join" with either CD or Radio button via the ML product and change track and sound level with the Beo4/Beolink app (hopefully I dont need to change app in the future for this). The sound quality seems also much better than Beoport but maybe that is an illusion. Hoppfully BO will upgrade the Beomusic app with more useful things. One fault is that I am not able to save favorite Tuneln podcasts to be favorites in the Beomusic app then I also wish that there should be a "main" favorite chapter where favorites from Deezer,Tuneln and IOS-music are collected all together so that I dont need to jump between the different sources to choose a favorite. Then on the wish list is also a good looking small aluminium charger stand for the Moment so that I can hide the big soundheart.... But so far its a really good experience.
I have to say that having seen the BS9000 in pride of place on the multi-room website page I'm starting to miss mine. It would have looked fabulous with my oak BL18s.
Duels: I have to say that having seen the BS9000 in pride of place on the multi-room website page I'm starting to miss mine. It would have looked fabulous with my oak BL18s.
I have bought back a MKIII with new laser
A masterpiece!!
So now I shall test a NL/ML converter and see if I can use Beomusic App with my BV11 and BS9000
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lonfred:Some feedback of the last days testing of BLC and Moment together with 12 Masterlink products. -Standby 2.The Moment do not go into stanby mode when all ML-products that are playing Moment sources are set into standby I need to push "all stanby" but then I also turn off Video sources. My old BLC whent into stanby when no audiosources was needed so I belive that there is some programation work to do here. 2. The Moment whent into standby mode after 30minutes even when ML products are playing audio from the moment, I solved this by changing power settings on the moment to always on but even here I belive that BO could solve that thing. Tuneln 1. Not possible to save favorites in the Beomusic app. 2. I would like to have a function so that I can assign favorite radio station to a number so that I only can press radio and number 1 for example from my BO4 like in the old days. Deezer Same here, I would like to assign a number to each playlist so that I can push CD and the playlist number I would like to listen to. Timer I really miss the old timer event that could be programmed on my BC2 The clock function on the BL3500 works but no timer. Beolink App Hopefully they will integrate the Beomusic app functions into the Beolink App now I need to jump between the apps. But over all it works like a charm and the sound quality is much better than the sound from the Beoport.
jans:Ionfred Thanks very much for your feedback. I start to become more and more interested in the new multi-room line-up, and am considering to replace my Sonos with Moment + multiple Essences. Does this new multi-room setup, including the Beomusic app, also have an alarm clock functionality? For me, this is a key use case! Wake up at 6:30 with music in the bedroom. Same music starting to play in the dining room and the kitchen as 7:00, etc. And all of that only during the week, and not in the week-end. I know that this may sound as a lower priority requirement, but for my wife and family this would be a showstopper! Interested in your feedback!
lonfred:Hopefully it will come a timer function in the next Beomusic app/BLC and Moment SW update the timer function in a new eara would be really useful. I belive that a majority of all people use an alarm clock...