Telarc 1812 Oberture Vinyl Played on B&O

Hi all, I have purchased TELARCS 1812 Overture with Digital Cannons on vinyl and am to nervous to play it on my B&O system.

Its very rare that you get a record with a warning on the front advising that your sound system may not be able to play the record and damage may ensue. 

Doing a Google search, you read of reports of speaker cones blowing up, Amos smoking, needles mis tracking and all sorts of mayhem.

I have a Beogram 8002 with SMMC3, Beomaster 8000, Beovox M75.

Do I have anything to worry about? Has any one played this particular album on a B&O setup with success?

I love my restored/overhauled M75's and do not want bits of speaker cone allover my floor.

I know the Beomaster and Beovox have overload circuitry, but will this still not save them as it's the frequency of the cannon blasts that destroys the speakers on this recording, not the power/voltage which is all that the overload circuits will protect from?

Will every play of this record on medium/high volume (4.0 on Beomaster 8000) slowly damage the speakers after every play? I read on google of one guy who wrecked his BOSE speakers after numerous repeated plays of this album. 

Also, will an SMMC3 be sufficient to track the cannon blasts accurately?

Cheers

I don't have an answer, but now I would like to try this version myself. Have never heard if a recording with such a warning.

I used to own this record back in the 80s and played it without problems through my old B&W speakers.Certainly made a thunderous sound on my system.I'm not aware of any detrimental effect on the speakers or turntable, but they weren't B&O products,so in that respect I would imagine you should keep asking around.As i used to work in a record shop I do know that the warning was perhaps just a little bit over the top and intended to pique curiosity on the part of the purchaser.Telarc had quite a reputation for extremely vivid sonics. I have the CD now and it plays mightily well through my BS3200 and BL9s. 

I seriously doubt it will cause any damage. But to be sure why don't you play it at a low volume first and see how it sounds. The smmc3 should track it properly although you may need to increase the tracking force a touch.

Hi,

Play the record. It cannot cause damage.

The only reasons Telarc would put the "warning" on the label are:

1. Marketing. It's like the button that is labelled "do not press this button" - of course you'll press it... Or, in this case, buy it.

2. If you set the volume of this recording (or any other with a  wider-than-usual dynamic range (which isn't saying much, these days)) so that the quiet parts are loud, then the loud parts will be really loud. However, the cannons on the Telarc recording are no louder (or quieter) than everything on Metallica's Death Magnetic, which you can also play without damaging your equipment. I cannot comment on the possible effects on your aesthetics or related mental health...

If the modulation on the vinyl was so big that it could damage your hardware, the vinyl would be unplayable.

Enjoy your new album - it's a pretty good recording.

Cheers

-geoff

 

I got the brand new, remastered by FIM limited edition 0-1000 copies version, pressed at QRP on 200g Virgin Vinyl. So I guess it's as good as it's going to get as an Analouge source.

With much anxiety and nervousness, I just played it all the way through and....... WOW!!!!

The sonics and clarity are spectacular and blow away my previous "to go to" version of the 1812 which was held by Decca's Phase 4 version on heavy weight vinyl.

When the mighty cannon blasts (more like almighty cracks) came, the SMMC3 jumped at the recommended 1.2g of tracking force.

I upped the tracking force to 1.5g and it was just on the brink of jumping, so I set it to 1.7g for good measure, >> to the beginning of the blasts, sat back and enjoyed. Sounded great and it tracked the blasts awesomely!

Will be a good record to revisit when I upgrade to an SMMC2 or higher (SMMC1/The Voice).

My reformed and recapped M75's did their best at hanging in there and did a darn good job, though they no doubt lacked a bit in the heavy bass department, the M75's being suited more to clarity in the midrange and highs (cannot fault there) instead of the full range clarity of deep lows all the way through to highs. Time for some MS150's or M100's I dare say hehe

Anyone got some M100's/MS150's in Western Australia they want to offload??

 

Can only imagine the TELARC 1812 in a full hirez digital format blasting through a pair of Beolab 5's. Ooooooh tingles.........

I remember when this LP first came out. I was working in a combination stereo/high end/record store. We all came to the conclusion that this was a useless record, created more for marketing hype than any true concern about musicality or such. Very, very few arm and cartridge combos would track this, and only one at its recommended tracking force as I recall, a Winn Labs strain gauge cartridge that had very low cantilever and stylus mass. It's a tribute to the Beogram arm and cartridge that it tracks without jumping out of the groove, and with only 70% more downforce than is optimum for the cartridge! All facetiousness aside, the Beograms performance is impressive, but I never thought well of this record. Under a microscope you can see the groove make a huge, nearly right angle shift on the cannon blasts, which explains the crack. A huge subsonic LF shift, with all the HF content of a square wave. With that large a crack I was never able to tell if, aside from not jumping out of the groove, any cartridge was actually tracking it accurately. We didn't have any memory oscilloscopes or high speed digital capture gear back then. 

I've just ordered a copy via Discogs for the sheer hell of it based on those cannons!

I'll try it on a selection of my TT's to see which cope.

Dave.

Thanks for that great insight, much appreciated!