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Thanks - how much do they charge for the hub?
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
@Sheffield: Did you try out a B&O remote, too? Did you connect other Beolab speakers to the hub?
BeoCare confirmed to me that other BeoLabs with LINE-switch can be connected. Dealer called, this afternoon I can pick it up. I'll keep you posted!
Would be great if the Beolab 7.x would be switched on/controlled by it, too.Please someone try out a Bang & Olufsen remote with the hub, too.
@TWG
Otherweise you could help yourself with a kit like this:
http://shop.oneremote.dk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=42_46&products_id=3715
So, just installed the Connection Hub to a nice pair of Ice Blue BL6000s. Sounds great, and the box is nice, tidy and shiny. It's quite small, so it's easy to tuck away somewhere. Furthermore, there is no lag noticeable with the picture.
But... I have two issues:1) The dealer told me to put the Lab 6000s into PL-mode. This works fine, but the speakers are always on which is unnecessarily power consuming. In Line-mode there is a big hiss when there is no sound. So I will have to think off a work-around for this.
2) There is some distortion (some "ticks" or crack-sounds) when switching songs on the Spotify-app, and switching the LG-television on or off. I think it's the television. Could also be in the cables, but the cables are all brand new (PL, TOSLINK and power-cables)...
And some photographic evidence. Just moved, so it's all untidy et cetera, but it gives an impression.
Double
Is the tv connection optical?
Yes, the connection is optical.
Millemissen: @TWG Otherweise you could help yourself with a kit like this: http://shop.oneremote.dk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=42_46&products_id=3715 MM
Thank you, I didn't know that such a thing exists. :-)To the Beoplay Connection Hub owners:- Could somebody please try a B&O remote with it- Does the Beolab 7.x series need an additional usb-connector for powering up? I thought every B&O speaker with Powerlink can be used on a Powerlink output like on the Connection hub!?
Would love to hear a update? Usage test? I'm looking into using this with a essence line-in and a beamer? Using the essence, line in? This to retain volume and source control. Or just get a proper dac?
Dear 1990,
this is really great news! I would never have imagined that this would really work.
I personally do like the little Speakers from the S8 so much, that I have them installed as the main source of sound. I have a cheap lg tv attached to it, as well as an apple Airport express. Both works really fine. The TV set ist connected via optical cable (TOSLINK) and the Apple Airport express via minijack (Miniklinke) 1.5mm.
I have an old Beosound ouverture as well. Do you think that I cann connect this as the third source using powerlink? Is it correct that a single cable with RJ45 at the one and and DIN-Connector at the other works well? I don't need two cables??
Thank you very much!
Kakue
Kakue: I have an old Beosound ouverture as well. Do you think that I cann connect this as the third source using powerlink? Is it correct that a single cable with RJ45 at the one and and DIN-Connector at the other works well? I don't need two cables??
Yes, a single PowerLink cable with RJ45 and DIN connectors holds both channels.
Hi MM,
so far, I have connected a LG TV and an Apple AirPort Express to the Connection hub. To the third Input (the RJ45 Port) I have connected a Beosound Ouverture via a single cable with RJ45 at the one and an a DIN-Connector at the other. Sound Comes out, but there is large amount of distortion, even when the CD or Radio in the Ourverture is playing.
Could it the cable? Or should I put the Connection hub or the beosound ourveture in a Special mode?
Thanks for your help!
Seems like a cable problem.
Which cable do you use?
Pic or reference for origin, would be informative..
Should work out of the box.
In the manual you should setup the RJ45 input for no volume control.
Hello again,
this is the cable I used:
Millemissen: TWG: Millemissen: A BL7-x will probably need a trigger solution in order to work with the output then. That would be something, that Steve from SoundsHeavenly could answer (and provide). MM I thought that I do NOT need anyhting else as the hub has Powerlink outputs?! Some BL's have a switch for line-in setup (left-right-line) - means they sense the incoming signal. The 7.x does not - it was intended to be used with a BV only. It (probably) needs to be triggered on/off externaly, since the connection hub does not provide the trigger. The User Guide for connection to the S8 says: 'Select LINE when using the Connection Hub'. What you (probably) will need is something like this: http://soundsheavenly.com/line-in-connection/102--trigger-trs-.html?search_query=Beolab+7.2&results=39 if you want to be sure, Steve is the man to clarify. MM
TWG: Millemissen: A BL7-x will probably need a trigger solution in order to work with the output then. That would be something, that Steve from SoundsHeavenly could answer (and provide). MM I thought that I do NOT need anyhting else as the hub has Powerlink outputs?!
Millemissen: A BL7-x will probably need a trigger solution in order to work with the output then. That would be something, that Steve from SoundsHeavenly could answer (and provide). MM
A BL7-x will probably need a trigger solution in order to work with the output then.
That would be something, that Steve from SoundsHeavenly could answer (and provide).
Some BL's have a switch for line-in setup (left-right-line) - means they sense the incoming signal.
The 7.x does not - it was intended to be used with a BV only.
It (probably) needs to be triggered on/off externaly, since the connection hub does not provide the trigger.
The User Guide for connection to the S8 says: 'Select LINE when using the Connection Hub'.
What you (probably) will need is something like this:
http://soundsheavenly.com/line-in-connection/102--trigger-trs-.html?search_query=Beolab+7.2&results=39
if you want to be sure, Steve is the man to clarify.
Hi Millemissen,
Thanks for your kind words. I'm sorry for the slow reply, as I only just saw your post.
Yes, we can get any Powerlink speaker working with the new Connection Hub, so it doesn't have to just be used with the S8. For any speakers with Line input modes via RCA sockets (eg. Beolabs 6000, 8000, 17, 18, Penta, etc) we can provide an RJ45 to twin RCA cable. For speakers which use the Powerlink sockets for Line inputs (eg. Beolabs 3, 9, etc) we can provide RJ45 to Powerlink cables. We can also provide Minijack cables (Beolab 4/4PC) and RJ45-RJ45 cables (Beolab 12, etc).
Speakers without a Line mode (eg. Beolabs 2, 7-x, 10, 2500, etc) need a special trigger cable to enable the speaker to switch on without a B&O "Master Product" connected, which we can provide to allow these speakers to be used with the Connection Hub. The trigger cable is needed because the Connection Hub only provides audio signals via the RJ45 sockets, not the usual Powerlink trigger signals or Powerlink data.
I think that the Connection Hub will be superb for customers with B&O speakers who wish to use a TV that only has an optical output, as this allows easy control of the speaker volume from the TV remote. It is worth noting that the Connection Hub can learn the volume up/down and mute commands from most "universal" 38kHz remote controls, but that it can't learn commands from any B&O remotes (except Beo5/6 which can transmit 38kHz signals).
Kind regards, Steve.
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Re: your advise to plug in the 6000's etc. via PL to RCA-cables: what is the advantage over connecting them through a RJ45-PL-cable (that's how I've got it connected right now)?
Hi 1990,
If they are working OK at the moment then there is no need to change anything. For a new installation, I would suggest using the RJ45 to RCA cables for Beolab 6000s to let the speakers work in Line mode. They will then switch on and off automatically when the music plays.
That's the exact same behaviour as I have now through the PL-cables and the 6000s in PL-mode. If I pause Netflix e.g., they switch off after 4-5 minutes, and switch on again if I continue the show.
That sounds like the Hub is providing the audio sensing trigger for the speakers, in exactly the same way as the 6000s would if they were set to Line mode. The Hub that I tested didn't have this function, as far as I was aware this was the reason that the S8 manual states that the speaker should be set to Line mode.
Anyway, no need to change anything on your setup, this is correct for your speakers.
SHEFFIELD: I received the hub a couple of days ago, but have been too busy to open the box. I will have a look tomorrow.... what I remember from the conference last week is that it is an add on to the existing Mk1 S8 before the new S8 comes out with integrated hub, with the new package costing circa £200 more than the mk1. ill let you know how it works tomorrow.
I received the hub a couple of days ago, but have been too busy to open the box. I will have a look tomorrow....
what I remember from the conference last week is that it is an add on to the existing Mk1 S8 before the new S8 comes out with integrated hub, with the new package costing circa £200 more than the mk1.
ill let you know how it works tomorrow.
Does anyone have an idea when the new S8 comes out with the new integrated package? It looks like the S8 is out of stock on BeoPlay's site, which might be a good sign something new is coming, correct?
Via BeoPlay's site..
"S8 TV Hub is sold separately and will be available in Nov."
Yet tomorrow is December and nothing has arrived. Does anyone know, what gives?
The s8 is available on their website now. I received mine 2 days ago. Got some problems if you want to connect it to an airport express device. I got it connected to my television via optical and to my airport express via aux. It automatically switches to the TV when I turn in on. But it don't switch back to my airport express when I start playing music. The reason for this is mainly that the airport express never turns of and therefore the connection hub won't detect when it gets a new signal from it. Anyone got any suggestions for this problem?
Calles_Advice: The s8 is available on their website now. I received mine 2 days ago. Got some problems if you want to connect it to an airport express device. I got it connected to my television via optical and to my airport express via aux. It automatically switches to the TV when I turn in on. But it don't switch back to my airport express when I start playing music. The reason for this is mainly that the airport express never turns of and therefore the connection hub won't detect when it gets a new signal from it. Anyone got any suggestions for this problem?
How did you connect your s8 via optical? To my knowledge that was only possible via their new connection hub, which is currently not for sale on their website. I spoke to my dealer yesterday and he told me there was a recall on the connection hub when it initially came out and they are waiting to fix it until they re-release it to the public. How did you get a connection hub?
lupend88: Calles_Advice: The s8 is available on their website now. I received mine 2 days ago. Got some problems if you want to connect it to an airport express device. I got it connected to my television via optical and to my airport express via aux. It automatically switches to the TV when I turn in on. But it don't switch back to my airport express when I start playing music. The reason for this is mainly that the airport express never turns of and therefore the connection hub won't detect when it gets a new signal from it. Anyone got any suggestions for this problem? How did you connect your s8 via optical? To my knowledge that was only possible via their new connection hub, which is currently not for sale on their website. I spoke to my dealer yesterday and he told me there was a recall on the connection hub when it initially came out and they are waiting to fix it until they re-release it to the public. How did you get a connection hub?
Call your dealer again or another. The connection hub is indeed shipping again. There was a launch recall, but that has since been solved and they are ready for delivery now. I have quite a few people who have them.
Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there
Wow, fantastic news! Thanks! I wonder why it's not available online?
Got my connection hub today, a quick test with a playmaker to the PL in and the out to a pair of BL6000, there was no signal to the BL, so I connect the PL out to a powerlink switch and got sound out. So guess I have a version that does not send a auto sense trigger out to the speakers. But this for me is not a problem as will be using it with a powerlink switch anyway.
A great little product (just a shame about the auto sense out) all in all, and I am sure will help a lot of people connect non B&O equipment to beolabs.
Hi badgersurf,
Thanks for this, based on the limited testing that we have been able to do so far, the full situation with the Hub appears to be rather strange.....
When there is nothing connected to the Powerlink (RJ45) input of the Hub, it outputs a correct Powerlink signal, ie. trigger voltage and stereo audio whenever sound is present on the optical or analogue inputs. As soon as a Powerlink device is connected to the Powerlink input, it switches to "Line" mode and provides audio only (no Powerlink trigger signal) on the output socket. If audio only is connected to the Powerlink input (ie. no trigger signal) then the Hub simply ignores this.
Hence, your Hub should be able to give a normal Powerlink output to your speakers, as long as no other B&O product is connected to the Powerlink In socket.
I'm really hoping that someone from B&O Technical can reply to this thread to explain the reasoning behind this, because I'm struggling to see a logical reason for the Hub turning off the Powerlink trigger at the output socket when a B&O device is connected to the Powerlink input socket.
Based on the enquiries that I've been getting from dealers and B&O customers so far, this is a common sticking point that makes the Hub far less flexible than it could otherwise be. Any ideas please B&O?
Gents, sorry to be naive do the PL connections mean I can add 2 rear speakers for a 4.1 system?
What rears would people recommend?
Also I've heard of problems switching back to AirPlay from the TV signal as the AirPlay signal is always live even if you're not playing music?
Steve at Sounds Heavenly: Hi badgersurf, Thanks for this, based on the limited testing that we have been able to do so far, the full situation with the Hub appears to be rather strange..... When there is nothing connected to the Powerlink (RJ45) input of the Hub, it outputs a correct Powerlink signal, ie. trigger voltage and stereo audio whenever sound is present on the optical or analogue inputs. As soon as a Powerlink device is connected to the Powerlink input, it switches to "Line" mode and provides audio only (no Powerlink trigger signal) on the output socket. If audio only is connected to the Powerlink input (ie. no trigger signal) then the Hub simply ignores this. Hence, your Hub should be able to give a normal Powerlink output to your speakers, as long as no other B&O product is connected to the Powerlink In socket. I'm really hoping that someone from B&O Technical can reply to this thread to explain the reasoning behind this, because I'm struggling to see a logical reason for the Hub turning off the Powerlink trigger at the output socket when a B&O device is connected to the Powerlink input socket. Based on the enquiries that I've been getting from dealers and B&O customers so far, this is a common sticking point that makes the Hub far less flexible than it could otherwise be. Any ideas please B&O? Kind regards, Steve.
Has there been a solution to this. I would like to connect a non-B&O to the connection hub (with Beollab 8002 connected to it) and also an essence to have multi-room functionality. When I watch a movie on the television, the BLs should play the sound, while playing over the Essence should enable the audio played multi-room.
Am I dreaming or is this doable?
Hi Steve1977,
No problem, in this case you would need to connect the TV to the Hub with an optical cable ( http://soundsheavenly.com/input/149-premium-braided-toslink-optical-cable-with-metal-plugs.html ) and then connect the Essence to the Line input of the Hub with the cable and adapter in the links below (not connecting via the Powerlink input):-
1) Cable: http://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/67--trs-5pd-.html
2) Adapter: http://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/30-rj45-to-powerlink-compatible-clip-on-adapter-convert-new-2013-ethernet-powerlink-to-traditional-8-pin-din-powerlink.html
This should give the functionality you need, as well as allowing the speakers to be connected in Powerlink mode to the Hub for full control (cables required depend on your chosen speakers, as seen in the link below):-
http://soundsheavenly.com/43-powerlink-rj45-cat5-connection-models-from-2013
If you need any further help, please feel free to ask.
To answer 1990's comment - yes, three inputs can be connected to the Hub, but it appears from testing that connecting anything via the Powerlink input stops the Hub from outputting a full Powerlink signal at the Powerlink output (hence any connected speaker would need to be used in Line mode only).
So, to answer Millemissen's question - yes, any Beolab speakers can be used with the Hub, as long as nothing is connected to the Powerlink input socket on the Hub. Using the Powerlink input of the Hub limits you to speakers that have a Line input mode only.
Steve at Sounds Heavenly: Hi Steve1977, No problem, in this case you would need to connect the TV to the Hub with an optical cable ( http://soundsheavenly.com/input/149-premium-braided-toslink-optical-cable-with-metal-plugs.html ) and then connect the Essence to the Line input of the Hub with the cable and adapter in the links below (not connecting via the Powerlink input):- 1) Cable: http://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/67--trs-5pd-.html 2) Adapter: http://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/30-rj45-to-powerlink-compatible-clip-on-adapter-convert-new-2013-ethernet-powerlink-to-traditional-8-pin-din-powerlink.html This should give the functionality you need, as well as allowing the speakers to be connected in Powerlink mode to the Hub for full control (cables required depend on your chosen speakers, as seen in the link below):- http://soundsheavenly.com/43-powerlink-rj45-cat5-connection-models-from-2013 If you need any further help, please feel free to ask.
Thanks, this is super helpful. Two follow-up questions:
1) Can I connect a surround system to the connection hub? A Baulab 14 or even 5 individual Beolabs?
2) Can I connect both an Essence and my non-B&O to the connection hub? I being played to it by both devices, which one takes priority?
Hi,
Yes, you can connect any Beolab speakers to the S8 Hub, but you will only ever get stereo sound, not surround sound. I'm not sure which device takes priority when several devices are connected to the Hub at once - if I recall correctly, the Hub switches automatically to whichever source is playing.
If you need any help with cables to get your system working, please let me know!
Thanks. I thought I were able to get surround with a Beolab 14 as it includes surround processor? Or does the Connection Hub not work with a Baolab 14? What about a pair of BL3 with a BL2 (i.e., 2+1)?
Once I finalize my decision on the system to go ahead with, I will need cables. Shall I just go ahead with your web-site or ping you directly?
Steve at Sounds Heavenly:When there is nothing connected to the Powerlink (RJ45) input of the Hub, it outputs a correct Powerlink signal, ie. trigger voltage and stereo audio whenever sound is present on the optical or analogue inputs. As soon as a Powerlink device is connected to the Powerlink input, it switches to "Line" mode and provides audio only (no Powerlink trigger signal) on the output socket. If audio only is connected to the Powerlink input (ie. no trigger signal) then the Hub simply ignores this. Hence, your Hub should be able to give a normal Powerlink output to your speakers, as long as no other B&O product is connected to the Powerlink In socket.
Did you get a reply on this frmo B&O? What are the implications for my use case (connecting Essence and a non-B&O TV as inputs and BL3 (and maybe BL2) as output? Will this work or is this constraint by what you are describing above?