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@Dave
The 'naming issue' is something, that needs to be solved, indeed.
Have you - as an owner of two of them - reported back to Beocare about this?
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Chris Townsend:Then all we need is a fresh new V1, sending its surround sound via Bluetooth to S3's . How neat would that be.
Millemissen:@Dave The 'naming issue' is something, that needs to be solved, indeed. Have you - as an owner of two of them - reported back to Beocare about this? MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
TWG:Bluetooth has not enough bandwidth to offer multichannel sound in an acceptable quality. That's why B&O has WISA. Other manufacturers have working wireless surround sound systems with nice sound, too. If you want surround sound with no additional speakers you really should try out one of the Yamaha sound projectors! They sound incredible and beat EVERY soundbar on the market! I've only listened to the higher end versions of the Yamaha and I was impressed - which doesn't happen every day. But for the S3: I like the look and it's nice to know that they sound better than those really bad Beolab 4 speakers. If they can be wired it seems that they are a great solution to integrate in a children's room. Than my kid can learn in his young age that B&O is required at home!
TWG:Bluetooth has not enough bandwidth to offer multichannel sound in an acceptable quality. That's why B&O has WISA. Other manufacturers have working wireless surround sound systems with nice sound, too.
Paul W:Chris that is an amazing idea. That was why I never bought surround sound a few years back because I didn't want cables all over my room as I have wooden flooring and no way to hide them!
BeoNut since '75
elephant: WISA
WISA
+1
WiSA is definitely the way to go, if you want descent sound from a multichannel setup.
Please replace 'descent' with 'decent' in my former post 😊
elephant:WISA BeoNut since '75
....or do less surfing ☺️
So, here are some pictures of the S3 getting naked! The cover simply unclips/slides off by gently pulling the fret forward. It's a sunbstantial fret as you can see. Perfect fit. I know some aren't thrilled with manufacturing in China but honestly, I cannot find any fault with these.
Front view. The top of the fret as you see it, is the upper part as can be seen by a circle where the top tweeter would be:
From a side angle to see the product details:
And the product details sticker itself:
Go listen to some as soon as you can.
Dave.
MM & BeoGreg - HAHA YES! I totally thought that when I saw Elephant's post :)
WOW Dave amazing comparison with the BeoLit12 there. This S3 sounds a true winner doesn't it! So pleased that you love them!
not more speakers I need to buy ...
really like the design and shape and can't wait to see if they do bring out stands for these.
great post Dave as this must have taken a lot of time...
any ideas how I can convince my other half would be much appreciated ...
we tend to forget there is more to design than designing.
Mark:any ideas how I can convince my other half would be much appreciated ...
If she hears them when you accidentaly take her to a B&O store instead of the coffee shop ('oops, this isn't the coffee shop, but now we are here....') - get her to listen to a pair and she'll want some of her own!
I enjoy doing this whenever I can for fellow Beoworlders.
Mark: any ideas how I can convince my other half would be much appreciated ...
Yes I agree with Duels. Let her pick a pink one for the bedroom or meditation room that you've promised her :) :) :)
Could you please do a small test for me (and maybe others)?
If you connect a source (a phone or anything) with its own volumen control to the line-in connection - how does the S3 react in terms of volumen?
Does it have a specific startup volumen, or does it start at the last played volumen or...?
Can you do the volumen control exclusively from the feeding device without touching/using the controls on the S3?
Millemissen:@Dave Could you please do a small test for me (and maybe others)? If you connect a source (a phone or anything) with its own volumen control to the line-in connection - how does the S3 react in terms of volumen? Does it have a specific startup volumen, or does it start at the last played volumen or...? Can you do the volumen control exclusively from the feeding device without touching/using the controls on the S3? MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
jans:Could you connect them to a Essence? I would like to have them in my kitchen as part of a multiroom setup: - living: Moment + V1 + Beolab9 - kitchen: essence + S3???
- living: Moment + V1 + Beolab9
- kitchen: essence + S3???
The Essence (MkI and II) don't have a line-out. They have RJ45 outlets for speakers so unless Steve can make an RJ45 to line-in plug I don't see how you can do it. The S3's are not activated from standby into use like Powerlinked Beolab active speakers so you'd have to leave them on all of the time anyway. I've e-mailed Steve at Sounds Heavenly to ask on the feasibility.
Dave Farr:Hi MM, I hope the answers your question. Dave.
I hope the answers your question.
It certainly does, thanks!
Nice to know, if you want to use the line-in port and you want to place the speaker somewhere, where you can't easily reach for the controls.
Means just find an fitting volume level on the S3 and let it be!
Only time there might (!) be a problem is, when you have use it with bluetooth and have changed the volume via your device 😒
As far as I have understood the S3 would follow the volume setting from the device using bluetooth.
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I am sorry to have to correct you:
The Essence can be set to a fixed line-out, no problem. The cable, that you would need, is available from the B&O dealers.
I do not remember the partnumber, but it is the same, that you would use for the Playmaker and the newer tv's, if you need a 'bridge' from RJ45/PL to a simple L/R line-connection.
And of course Steve can provide similar cables.
P.S. Are you sure that the lie-in port (of the S3) does not have autosense, and would wake up when it receives a signal? And turn off, when there is no?
Steve did do a cable for the Beolab 4 PC version would that be the same cable needed?
You can see a picture of the cable available from B&O here:
http://www.hifi4all.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=46053&PN=1&TPN=722
Millemissen:P.S. Are you sure that the lie-in port (of the S3) does not have autosense, and would wake up when it receives a signal? And turn off, when there is no?
Then you need an adapter like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-Male-to-2-RCA-Female-Jack-Stereo-Audio-Cable-Converter-Adapter-DC3-New-/141671410399
B&O only sell, what you see in the linked picture, because they are the most common, and you can always 'adapt' to something else.
Dave Farr: EDIT: definitely no auto sense. This makes sense in that it gives you the chance to check the volume on your device before you play them too loud on start up. Funnily enough, when I tried to play music, nothing happened until I pressed a volume button on the S3 after it was active and not in standby. However, I could not repeat this. I'll try again in the morning. Dave.
EDIT: definitely no auto sense. This makes sense in that it gives you the chance to check the volume on your device before you play them too loud on start up. Funnily enough, when I tried to play music, nothing happened until I pressed a volume button on the S3 after it was active and not in standby. However, I could not repeat this. I'll try again in the morning.
I can't really believe it - sorry ☺️
That is how the line-in on the Playmaker, the Essence and on the Moment works, so why not on the S3?
If you use bluetooth the speaker will turn on, or?
(If not, that would mean that I would have to climb up a latter, if the speaker/s is/are placed relatively high on a board, each time I want to use it/them.)
The 'danger', that the volume of your sending device is too high, is there too, or?
jans:Dave and MM Thank you for your feedback. As Mm pointed out it would be nice if the S3's would have auto-sense on their line-in. The other thing I am still missing in the new product line-up is some sort of alarm clock function (as I already mentioned in another post). It may sound stupid but to me this is a show-stopper. As long as this isn't available I will stick to my Sonos.
Thank you for your feedback. As Mm pointed out it would be nice if the S3's would have auto-sense on their line-in.
The other thing I am still missing in the new product line-up is some sort of alarm clock function (as I already mentioned in another post).
It may sound stupid but to me this is a show-stopper. As long as this isn't available I will stick to my Sonos.
Like the A2 and the BeoLi 15 it is 'just' a bluetooth speaker (with a line-in connection) - your device could act as the alarm clock.
I don't think you should compare it to a Sonos speaker.
The Sonos speaker does not act as 'the alarm clock', either ---- the Sonos setup - via the controller-app - does.
OK, hands up - I'm an idiot!
Last night when I tried the autosense issue, I think I had removed the line-in jack and then tried the autosense without reconnecting to Bluetooth.
Whilst fully awake this morning I tried again:
Using Line-in, there is no autosense. Music does not play unless you physically turn the speaker on.
With Bluetooth connected and the speaker in standby (line-in jack removed) - start music on your device and YES, autosense works and the speaker turns on.
My apologies for the confusion. I was tired last night. However, it's been 10 minutes since I removed the source (closed Spotify) and the speaker has not returned to standby. I'll leave it for the morning and see if it does.
@jans - regarding using the Essence. Yes you can do this and Steve at Sounds Heavenly says you need these two cables/adapters:
http://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/67--trs-5pd-.html
and:
http://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/30-rj45-to-powerlink-compatible-clip-on-adapter-convert-new-2013-ethernet-powerlink-to-traditional-8-pin-din-powerlink.html
Hi Dave,
thanks for testing!
The lack of autosense - UNFORTUNATELY - makes the S3 worthless for what I intended to use it for.
The line-in would be the main connection, and the bluetooth only for occasional use.
I am going to send a note to Beocare about this - see what they answer.
Millemissen: Hi Dave, thanks for testing! The lack of autosense - UNFORTUNATELY - makes the S3 worthless for what I intended to use it for. The line-in would be the main connection, and the bluetooth only for occasional use. I am going to send a note to Beocare about this - see what they answer. MM
Already sent a message to Beoplay about this and awaiting a response. I also contacted Steve at Sounds Heavenly to ask about the autosense issue and his cables. I'll report back when I hear.
The S3 does revert to standby when no longer in use. It takes more than 10 minutes and less than 30 minutes but I can't be more specific than that yet.
How do you intend to use them then?
Dave Farr: How do you intend to use them then? Dave.
Very simple - I want(ed) one (!) for our dining area to connect to an Active Link - instead of the Passive Link/BeoVox S30-combo, we have now.
I am not interested in having 'a great stereo perspective' in that room, since we usually move around a lot there.
I just want 'good roomfilling sound' - which (so it seems) you can have with even one S3.
That is, why I am so interested in 'autosense and volume level' - as you know, the Active Link kit has it's own volume control (either via link-eye or remote).
As a bonus we could (with the S3) have the opportunity of using bluetooth for 'a quick fix' of music, when family and friends are there to visit.
Probably this will stay a dream - so...I am looking for other options now (or simply staying with the current solution).
I like the looks of the S3 (and my wife does too!!!), though!
P.S. Could be/have been a similar setup using the Essence too, if you have gone the NL-route.
I am not giving up, yet!
I found this in the FAQ's on the B&O website:
'How do I switch between high power standby and low power standby on BeoPlay S3?
Thanks for helping 👍