New Zeppelin

The New Zeppelin landed

You really do love to argue with MM, don´t you?

He sure does!

MM

Nice competitor for the BeoPlay A6. The previous model was always rated excellent.

I saw Motorhead has moved into the pleasure toy industry .....

 

benoit:

Nice competitor for the BeoPlay A6. The previous model was always rated excellent.

Agree

The shape of The new Zeppelin is elegant and the sound is great either even if I didn't listen this new version yet.

Good job B&W !

I agree the Zeppelin is excellent. A friend has one from a few years back and it is a million times better sounding than my A8. The A8 is so flat, dull, lifeless - thats why it lives in the spare bedroom.

I loved the design of the A8 but gosh, it sounds damn awful. So mid, flat, boring!

Another B&O bashing thread and praise for alternatives not even owned or experienced. 

I think that good quality audio equipment is completely wasted on some people.... they praise equipment that adds bass (without control) and moan about well designed units that produce the sound as originally intended. 

Graham

vikinger:

they praise equipment that adds bass (without control) and moan about well designed units that produce the sound as originally intended. 

Graham

Sorry but I own a Beolit 15 and from the beginning I think it has too much bass. I spoke about it on this forum. Is this boomy bassy muffled sound produced by my very nice and well designed BeoLit 15 'as originally intended'?

benoit:

vikinger:

they praise equipment that adds bass (without control) and moan about well designed units that produce the sound as originally intended. 

Graham

Sorry but I own a Beolit 15 and from the beginning I think it has too much bass. I spoke about it on this forum. Is this boomy bassy muffled sound produced by my very nice and well designed BeoLit 15 'as originally intended'?

I know nothing about the Beolit 15 and didn't see it in this thread. I was not suggesting that B&O get it right each time..... In fact your Beolit with too much bass may well suit at least one other person in this thread!

Graham

The Zeppelin has landed...oh the humanity!

 

vikinger:

Another B&O bashing thread and praise for alternatives not even owned or experienced. 

I think that good quality audio equipment is completely wasted on some people.... they praise equipment that adds bass (without control) and moan about well designed units that produce the sound as originally intended. 

Graham

Agree, some people are obviously born Bose customers. And I've bot a Beolit 15, the bass boom is very location dependent, get it away from the boundary wall and the bass boom goes away. It will fill a large room quite well though, something most things that size struggle with.

I prefer Led Zeppelin ;-)

MM

Looks like just another cheap black plastic thingy.
Ugly.
Not for me.

Martin

Dillen:

Looks like just another cheap black plastic thingy.
Ugly.
Not for me.

Martin

Yep. Doesn't look elegant to me.

Simonbeo:

Dillen:

Looks like just another cheap black plastic thingy.
Ugly.
Not for me.

Martin

Yep. Doesn't look elegant to me.

I like B&O very much but I really think that it's unfair to speak like this about a renowned challenger... I don't think that the plastic from the BeoPlay A6 (I precise that I like very much it's simple design) looks better than the Zeppelin... And I'm curious to read a documented sound comparaison of both.

@ Benoit

In this forum some people hate others products from others companies.

Bowers & Wilkins make very nice products which sound very good.

Bang & Olufsen don't win every time

Correction.

Some people hate the promotion of other products by forum members who have no direct experience of what they are promoting!

vikinger:

Correction.

Some people hate the promotion of other products by forum members who have no direct experience of what they are promoting!

So If you hate those don't read them !

You can hardly avoid them ;-)

MM

benoit:

vikinger:

they praise equipment that adds bass (without control) and moan about well designed units that produce the sound as originally intended. 

Graham

Sorry but I own a Beolit 15 and from the beginning I think it has too much bass. I spoke about it on this forum. Is this boomy bassy muffled sound produced by my very nice and well designed BeoLit 15 'as originally intended'?

I agree that the Beolit 15 is too much of a "boom box" for my taste. It is not hi-fi (in my opinion) - but a lot of people seems to like it that way.
Sadly, today a lot of people seems to think that good sound is lots of bass and treble - they don't care about the lack of mid-range, which is a big part of natural sound... But, offcourse - if you only listen to dance/techno or similar, this isn't an issue.
The A8 is actually better sounding than the Beolit 12/15. But it does not have enough bass for some people - and then it is "dull and flat" ...
A lot of people today seems to think that Bose, Sonos - or even some very cheap wireless speakers sounds sooo good, because they have lots of bass.

I bought a set of Beolab 4000 a few years ago, from a man whose Family preferred a Beolit 12 instead - because it was sooo easy to move around in the house, and stream their mp3 music from their phones. Who cares about sound quality - it's easy - that's the mantra today.
I'm happy to say, that those BL 4000's sound way better than any of those Wireless "boom-boxes"/all-in-one speakers of any brand that I have heard.

Certain people on this site have been telling us about what "Young people" do and like, for years now.
Well - it might come as an unpleasant surprise...not all youngsters are alike... Actually, a few years ago a friend of mine -at the age of 33 - suddently discovered hifi, after years of cheap crap music systems. He bought some big Dali speakers -and high-end Denon amplifier -and cd-player.
Ok - over the age of 30 he's maybe not young anymore...
But my nephews - who are now in their early 30's - have listened to vinyl records for the last ten years... 

To sum it all up - it's not a question of young people do this, and old people do that... I have seen old people buy crap Wireless speakers and young people buy big hifi systems and speakers.

I haven't heard the new Zeppelin - but I have heard the first one. And I was not impressed... a boom-box like any other of that kind. Far from hifi.

 

Nice post Steffen. I actually quite like the look of the Zeppelin but haven't heard it so won't comment on its capabilities. I expect that like a lot of B&O products, the sound of competitors products are strongly influenced by placement.

I have an A8 in the kitchen between some wall units so it's almost in a 5 sided box and it sounds fantastic with a nice quantity of bass - I like it as do many of the 16 year old school friends of my step-daughter who visit here. The same applies to my A2 and Beolit 12 which sound incredibly different depending on where I place them - free standing, against a wall, in a corner etc.

Within streaming services you can alter the sound using their equalisers. I suspect many don't bother and expect a device to sound fantastic (to their ears) just by switching it on, no matter where they place it. This is unrealistic unless it contains the technology that something like the BL90's has.

We all expect or demand different things from our products. Manufacturers must have nightmares trying to satisfy us all!

Dave.