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Beogram 1202 - 230V

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Smartmulti Posted: Thu, Dec 24 2015 7:22 PM

Hello, I am trying to restore a 1202 b&o and wired it according to the wiring diagram on the service manual but seem to have a problem with the ON/OFF, am using it on the 220V selection. The motor stays on continuously as long as their is power. Any assistance will be appreciated. Regards,

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Check the switch in the upper right corner

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Hi Soren, switch is ok but I had to rewire from scratch used the service manual diagram but I think the switch only operates the black wire 110V coil on the motor so need to know what wires to put across the switch for 230v operation.........or am I missing something?

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Can this pic help ?

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I need to see under that 110V 220V selector thingy if you have a pic of that?

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Are you using it on 220V

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The switch is between Black wire from motor and Brown wire from the V selector and lift switch, did you try to start normally, move the arm to center it should then return and switch off

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Yes that's where  have it, no it doesn't switch off either in off position or in auto once return is complete. Are you using 110V?

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Smartmulti:

Are you using it on 220V

No 110V

 

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My deck came from Denmark and was running on 220 before I got it over here, I never changed anything in the wiring, just the V switch to 110.

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My only pic with the selector, but no good for you

 

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Ok, am sure I have a wiring mistake under that selector cant seem to attach a pic here but will mail it, maybe you will be able to spot the error?

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Can I email you a pic cant attach here for some reason maybe need to be approved by moderator first just signed on to this forum just now

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In reply, click Options, add file, browse, find pic in computer, select, click save,

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Ah ok had to click preview first 

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Check that the switches are working (Manual and lift) and if the relay is always activated, the relay should deactivate in the second half turn of the gear wheel, (check the contacts in the relay) if the contacts 2 dont open when the gearwheel finishes the 2nd half turn, the relay gets its power from somewhere else,

When powering on with speed selector in "off" does the motor start running ?

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Smartmulti replied on Thu, Dec 24 2015 10:45 PM

Yes it runs even in the OFF position as soon as power is applied

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Smartmulti replied on Thu, Dec 24 2015 10:48 PM

Manual works fine, lift also and automatic returns the needle to home with no problems, just seems the motor never will turn off which makes sense as the motor red and yellow (230v coil) are always connected to the power from the V switch, something here needs to go through the OFF switch. With 110V the motor coil is black and blue and the black goes through the switch so it will turn off. 

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You have 3 black wires going to the on/off switch I have only 2 white ones going there

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Hi I have wired it according to the wiring diagram on the service manual

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According to this, the red and yellow will always have power? And I think this is the 220V coil of the motor?

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As I see it the motor will only run if either on/off or relay contacts are closed, I would desolder the wires from the on/off switch, if the motor still runs, separate the 2 wires that are together at the on/off switch, if the motor still runs there is something wrong at the relay, either contacts in the relay or wrong wiring 

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I forgot, Merry Christmas Smile

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And a Merry Christmas to you Smile

Thanks will try that, I think this wiring diagram is missing something for the 220V power  

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When my BG 1202 arrived here from Denmark it was on 220V and it was running in DK, I just moved the V selector to 110V and it played here, wired exactly as in the drawing.

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deleted replied on Tue, Dec 29 2015 10:32 PM

Just another possibility - I have a beogram 1203, which like the OP runs continuously, with auto-return etc. functioning. The problem for me is black plastic levers which are toggled by the main plastic cog (the big white one in the middle) and which trigger the switch.

 

At first my beogram would always turn off soon after needle drop, so I moved one of the black levers out of the way, and now it stays on continuously (I plan to fix this in the next week). Are you sure this is not a problem for yours?

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