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AnalogPlanet: Weebyx: I just need to figure out if I will get full multiroom functionality with the BS35/A6 only, or if the Moment is needed for the units to "join-in" on eachother ?Anyone know if this is possible ?/Weebyx I believe you will, as I have it with A9 + A6 combo. Even better, I have connected my Beocenter 8500 to A6 line-in for CD playback and can "share" that sound in multiroom to A9 via NL.
Weebyx: I just need to figure out if I will get full multiroom functionality with the BS35/A6 only, or if the Moment is needed for the units to "join-in" on eachother ?Anyone know if this is possible ?/Weebyx
I just need to figure out if I will get full multiroom functionality with the BS35/A6 only, or if the Moment is needed for the units to "join-in" on eachother ?Anyone know if this is possible ?/Weebyx
I believe you will, as I have it with A9 + A6 combo. Even better, I have connected my Beocenter 8500 to A6 line-in for CD playback and can "share" that sound in multiroom to A9 via NL.
Then we just play the waiting game until release, and hope for sound delay=0 on the optical in :)
/Weebyx
kuyttendaele: Aussie Michael:Is it WISA? I love it No WISA as it is not intended as a separate speaker but as a sound system OR as an additional multi room speaker. The BeoSound 35 also does not have a dedicated Left or Right switch. It's an all in one sound system. The BeoLab 3500 which, more or less, it replaces also doesn't have a dedicated PowerLink connection to connect it to a BeoSound/BeoVision.
Aussie Michael:Is it WISA? I love it
No WISA as it is not intended as a separate speaker but as a sound system OR as an additional multi room speaker. The BeoSound 35 also does not have a dedicated Left or Right switch. It's an all in one sound system.
The BeoLab 3500 which, more or less, it replaces also doesn't have a dedicated PowerLink connection to connect it to a BeoSound/BeoVision.
Thanks Kuyttendaele ;-) So it maybe like an A8 but no docking.
I also agree with BeoGreg that it is like the new century.
I was waiting for the A6 to be released, but maybe this is the best link product for me. I don't care if the display is 80's, 90s, if i have it high on the wall i'm not going to see it . They could have had the display hidden like the BS1 even behind the grille?
And best of all, it's being related on MY BIRTHDAY! so maybe that's a sign lol
Also Paul, is this like the "soundbar" you have been talking about that would be a good product for B&O to release, or was yours more like the others with a HDMI, etc?
I also wonder what the moniker 35 represents?
And designed by my favourite Torsten. :-)
The BS35 is not a soundbar.
Basicly it is 'just' another NL Audioproduct, that can work as a standalone product or as part of a B&O multiroom setup.
As noted above it is more like a BS Essence with attached speakers - not a BS Moment
It is in the Bang & Olufsen range because of it's aestheitic, it's design and choice of material - and it is not supposed to be a device to move around.
Perfect as a 'replacement' for the BL3500 of the ML era - but much more efficient, because of it's own source capacity.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Millemissen:Perfect as a 'replacement' for the BL3500 of the ML era - but much more efficient, because of it's own source capacity.
Exactly as I said before: ' a reworked, modernised version of the old BL3500 '.
I was hoping for a new product: A new 40" TV set, some minimized BL90 speakers... But off-course the old popular products must also be modernized so the old MasterLink can be completely burried.
After development of all these fine products, hopefully they concentrate more on their software, there is a lot to do on the Beomusic app. If you reach for concentration on Multiroom products, you must create software which is more convenient to use, easy to install and compatible with all Apple & Android firmware products.
"Believe nothing you read and only half of what you see, let your ears tell you the truth."
The BS35 has a optical-in, quite nice in quest-rooms without tv. I wished the Essence MKII had optical in next to RCA for tv capabilities — awaiting MKIII. Or they just need to make a BV6 sized TV.
For those offended by the use of 'Go', this is what you might have to learn as an alternative:
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Graham
I quite like it. Does not fulfill a need for me at the moment unfortunately
I would like to see a pure "link speaker" during the year (maybe in the Beoplay range) without sources with pricepoint lower than the A6. I have all the sources I need already in the Moment, the A6 and in the BV11. Maybe the market is to small for such a speaker.
My dealer seem excited over the Beosound 35 and claim it to be exactly what customers have been asking for. He also refer to it as a possible soundbar for a non B&O TV, so I assume the digital in should provide no delay.
Livingroom: BL3, BL11, BV11-46 Kitchen: Beosound 1 GVA, Beocom 2 Bathroom: M3 Homeoffice: M3, Beocom 2 Library: Beosound Emerge, Beocom 6000 Bedroom: M5, Essence remote Travel: Beoplay E8 2.0, Beoplay EQ, Beoplay Earset
The BL3500 was almost the same speaker in design as the BL6000. And now with the new BL35 that has great design. Maybe a new BL6000. BL60? With the same design as the Bl35.
BL17 is a newer version of the BL4000.BL18 is a newer version of the BL8000.BL19 is a newer version of the BL2BL20 is a newer version of the BL9.BL60 is a newer version of the BL6000?
I would have been great
//EA
Beo in white is my thing
Currently own: BeoVision Avant 55", BeoLab 5, BeoLab 18, BeoRemoteOne, BeoPlay V1-32", BeoRemote4, BeoSound 3200, BeoGram 6500 (MMC-1), BeoLit 15, BeoPlay A1, LC2, BeoVision MX7000 and BeoLab 3
Hiort:. My dealer seem excited over the Beosound 35 and claim it to be exactly what customers have been asking for. He also refer to it as a possible soundbar for a non B&O TV, so I assume the digital in should provide no delay.
I will admit, that I though more of connecting my old CD4500, when I read 'optical in'.
IMO a tv speaker of today must be made for the tv and have center speaker capacity - as we see it with the Avant speaker.
However, it B&O can sell some BS35 for non B&O tv's, it won't be that bad....for B&O (and the dealers).
Millemissen: I will admit, that I though more of connecting my old CD4500, when I read 'optical in'. IMO a tv speaker of today must be made for the tv and have center speaker capacity - as we see it with the Avant speaker. However, it B&O can sell some BS35 for non B&O tv's, it won't be that bad....for B&O (and the dealers). MM
Fully agree. Its not an optimal "sound bar solution" and not aimed as such either. But it will for sure improve the mediocre sound on any flatscreen out there. Will be good for the dealers to pitch that possibility though, to further motivate the price tag.
I guess I stick to Beolab 10 for now...
Hi Hiort,
Reading this thread, I realize you have an A6. How does that sound sa it's not released yet in France?
I am looking after a B&O speaker (multiroom link) to replace the Vifa which had delay issue with my BV11.
Thanks
FREDPERT
BeoVision 11-46 full black - BeoRemote One
Millemissen: Hiort:. My dealer seem excited over the Beosound 35 and claim it to be exactly what customers have been asking for. He also refer to it as a possible soundbar for a non B&O TV, so I assume the digital in should provide no delay. I will admit, that I though more of connecting my old CD4500, when I read 'optical in'. IMO a tv speaker of today must be made for the tv and have center speaker capacity - as we see it with the Avant speaker. However, it B&O can sell some BS35 for non B&O tv's, it won't be that bad....for B&O (and the dealers). MM
Have just looked at my CD4500, cant find the 'optical out' anywhere ;)
For me the BS35 would be the perfect solution for my living room. I don't have surround sound(and don't want to), and just use the BL7.1 as a fantastic stereo speaker for my Samsung TV.
I can now get rid of the BL7.1 and the old BS3000 and move in to the new era of wireless multiroom.. Yaaaaay :)
The digital coax of the CD4500 can easely be converted to optical. Thats how my old CD3500 is currently set up with my brothers all in one surround system only accepting HDMI and optical inputs
Also since the BS35 apperantly has a 80s display, it will match the CD4500 quite nicely
I very much enjoyed the sound of the A6 when testing it at my dealer. Dare I say more so than the wall mounted A9 I also tested when I was there. Perhaps it was the track I was listening to, but, to me, the A6's sounded noticeably crisper, while still having a more precise, solid punch.
Interested to hear how this BS35 compares :)
BeoLignage: Also since the BS35 apperantly has a 80s display, it will match the CD4500 quite nicely
Have you actually seen the display of the 35?
There is not much 80's about that - and it is totally unlike the panel of the CD4500.
But yes, both have a display.
The display of the 35 is like that of the BeoRemote One.
Why does it even need a display? Most of their other products doesn't have a display either as they know full well people use their phones for doing precise actions.
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BeoLab 18's. Beolab 3's. A8. A9. A2. H7.
Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker: Why does it even need a display? Most of their other products doesn't have a display either as they know full well people use their phones for doing precise actions.
I must contradict you on that!
i am sure some - or even a lot - of the users would like to be able to control it WITHOUT having to have their phone/tablet in the hand.
The BS35 can even - for the basics - be controlled by the BeoRemote One.
Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker: Why does it even need a display?
Why does it even need a display?
I remember, when the Playmaker came out, everyone (almost) cried out for a different design with some sort of display on it.
Now we finally have a device with a display - and.....
But control what?
If it's being used as a centre speaker it needs no interaction at all.
If you want to control the volume the A9 handles that with touch controls as does the A6.
If you want it to play a internet radio station mist people will either have it play by default when turned on or they will select a station from a phone, tablet or Moment.
Eben the Moment has one side with no screens (or GO buttons) to more elegantly handle your music.
Explain to me in what way that tiny screen helps all that much.
Millemissen: BeoLignage: Also since the BS35 apperantly has a 80s display, it will match the CD4500 quite nicely Have you actually seen the display of the 35? There is not much 80's about that - and it is totally unlike the panel of the CD4500. But yes, both have a display. The display of the 35 is like that of the BeoRemote One. MM
That comment of mine was marely intended as a joke or sarcasam, but english not being my native language that might not have shined through. On a serious note, the chrome and black of the two would actually make them a nice combo.
BeoLignage: Millemissen: BeoLignage: Also since the BS35 apperantly has a 80s display, it will match the CD4500 quite nicely Have you actually seen the display of the 35? There is not much 80's about that - and it is totally unlike the panel of the CD4500. But yes, both have a display. The display of the 35 is like that of the BeoRemote One. MM That comment of mine was marely intended as a joke or sarcasam, but english not being my native language that might not have shined through. On a serious note, the chrome and black of the two would actually make them a nice combo.
Beolignage, i think most people read it as a joke. some people need to lighten up..
Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker: But control what? If it's being used as a centre speaker it needs no interaction at all. If you want to control the volume the A9 handles that with touch controls as does the A6. If you want it to play a internet radio station mist people will either have it play by default when turned on or they will select a station from a phone, tablet or Moment. Eben the Moment has one side with no screens (or GO buttons) to more elegantly handle your music. Explain to me in what way that tiny screen helps all that much.
You seem to know how to use (or not use) the display for controlling - one of the very few, then!
It is ok, if you see no sense in having the opportunity of doing so - can't say anything against that.
On the other side, I am quite sure, that the guys in Struer did not built in the display just for fun.
Why not let those, who want it that way, do it so - you don't have to.
But, you are right - when 'used as a centre speaker it need no interaction at all'.
However, this it definitely not the main purpose of that device. On a side note - you can't use a dedicated stereo speaker as 'a centre speaker'.
From an overall view I am sure, that some people will want to control it so and others different.
Maybe we should better wait with this discussion, untill we have actual user reviews in three months time?
Rob.B: Beolignage, i think most people read it as a joke. some people need to lighten up..
Maybe we could create some kind of badget or sign, when the post is meant as a joke - for those, who aren't 'lightened up'!
Millemissen: Why not let those, who want it that way, do it so - you don't have to.
Mainly because it looks VERY cheap and really really throws off the clean lines and typical minimal look B&O go for. If someone walked into your house they would easily mistake it for a cheap Sony Soundbar and I wouldn't blame them.
Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker:Mainly because it looks VERY cheap and really really throws off the clean lines and typical minimal look B&O go for. If someone walked into your house they would easily mistake it for a cheap Sony Soundbar and I wouldn't blame them.--BeoLab 18's. Beolab 3's. A8. A9. A2. H7.
- Flere
smile and enjoy the moment
Flere: Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker: Mainly because it looks VERY cheap and really really throws off the clean lines and typical minimal look B&O go for. If someone walked into your house they would easily mistake it for a cheap Sony Soundbar and I wouldn't blame them. -- BeoLab 18's. Beolab 3's. A8. A9. A2. H7. Did you see it in real life?
Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker: Mainly because it looks VERY cheap and really really throws off the clean lines and typical minimal look B&O go for. If someone walked into your house they would easily mistake it for a cheap Sony Soundbar and I wouldn't blame them. -- BeoLab 18's. Beolab 3's. A8. A9. A2. H7.
Did you see it in real life?
When was that ever a requirement?
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
Flere:Did you see it in real life?- Fleresmile and enjoy the moment
or,.. or... or... I could get a Sony sound bar and hope people think I have a BS35
Earle:or,.. or... or... I could get a Sony sound bar and hope people think I have a BS35
You just reminded me of a scene in King Ralph...
Princess Ana,.. the beautiful woman who's got a "voice like a tuba"
fredpert: Hi Hiort, Reading this thread, I realize you have an A6. How does that sound sa it's not released yet in France? I am looking after a B&O speaker (multiroom link) to replace the Vifa which had delay issue with my BV11. Thanks
Yes, I have the A6 and I´m very happy with it. I don't want this thread to be about the A6, so please see unboxing and my views on the A6 here
Interesting review, thank you Hiort!
I prefer the Vifa design over the A6, but definitely the flawless integration and no sound delay with the BV11 is a plus. They have the same look&feel with the kvadrat fabric cover so I might be tempted to go for the A6 after all ;)
I do like the design, looks to be a very promising new product.
another good video review, also showing with the beomusic app
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrokHi_vmqs
fredpert: Interesting review, thank you Hiort! I prefer the Vifa design over the A6, but definitely the flawless integration and no sound delay with the BV11 is a plus. They have the same look&feel with the kvadrat fabric cover so I might be tempted to go for the A6 after all ;)
I would be surprised if the Vifa sound better than the A6
But sound is much personal taste.
The sound of the Vifa was very well balanced. Really crisp as well with sufficient bass. It really is a shame I couldn't keep it because of the delay with BV11.
Have just heard back from B&O that the BS35 also has a Line-In delay, but it can be disabled via the Apps ?
They say it is the same with the A9 ? Can anyone confirm that the A9 can use Line-in without sound delay ?
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StUrrock: Earle: or,.. or... or... I could get a Sony sound bar and hope people think I have a BS35 So funny the other day a customer insisted on adding a Sony sound bar to a new 4k Sony TV. To my ears it sounded worse than the TV
Earle: or,.. or... or... I could get a Sony sound bar and hope people think I have a BS35
So funny the other day a customer insisted on adding a Sony sound bar to a new 4k Sony TV.
To my ears it sounded worse than the TV
Especially if he buys Sonys top line 4K TV which plays (even soundwise) in the same league as a Beovision:http://www.sony.de/electronics/fernseher/x9405c-x9305c-series
Yes, line-in latency can be switched off. Here is the related official information: http://bogous.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/7383