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Beolab 8000 - I am confused. What was upgraded when?

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lg
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lg Posted: Wed, Mar 16 2016 4:58 PM

I have tried to read up on Beolab 8000 and the more I read the more confused I get. This is what I think I know for sure:

  • Manufactured between 1992 and 2010.
  • 1992-1993 3 (2,5) way, after that 2 way
  • 1999 upgraded bass elements
  • 2003 upgraded circuitry (ABL)
  • 2010 replaced by BL 8002. Main technical difference is that ABL is replaced by ICE.

Is this correct? Because I have heard a few people say that the bass upgrade took place 2003!?

But now it starts to get confusing. Some people call the 1999 version Mk2 and the 2003 version Mk3. Other people call the 2003 version Mk2 but don't explain how to differentiate between the pre-1999 and post-1999 versions. In this case there is no Mk3 (although I have heard references to BL 8002 as Beolab 8000 Mk3).

Then there are two crucial s/n circulating, 16992475 which can be found on many sites, e.g., the now defunct Beophile.com and 10145230 mentioned on Beocentral. How do these s/n related to the different modifications mentioned above?

I have also seen speaker orginally sold 2006 (I saw the original receipt) with a s/n beginning with 15. Was different versions of the BL8000 sold in parallell several years after the 2003 upgrade?

The original version had some issues with the material in the speaker elements that made them fail prematurely (I have heard at least two explanations - paper that dried or plastic that melted). Which upgrade got rid of this defect?

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Hungedu replied on Wed, Mar 16 2016 6:21 PM

All of that sounds correct, however, in actuality, there is very little perceivable difference in audio performance over the years. I have a pair of BeoLab 8000s from 1993 and a second pair from 2005. I cannot hear any difference, and my pair from 1993 have operated flawlessly to date.

BeoLab 5, BeoVision 7-55 MK2, BeoSound 5 Encore, BeoSound 9000, BeoLab Penta III, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 6000, BeoLab 2, BeoLab 7-6, BeoSound 8, BeoTime (analog clock), Beo 4 remote.

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lg replied on Wed, Mar 16 2016 10:26 PM

How can all sound correct? There are some "intentional" contradictions in my description.

I agree with you regarding the sound quality, my main interest is to buy a speaker that won't break due to a less than ideal selection of material.

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graemeben replied on Wed, Mar 16 2016 10:53 PM

Hi.

I think it is generally accepted that 'mk2' refers to speakers after the 2003 changes - on this forum anyway. I've not seen any reference to mk3, but I guess the BL8002 could be classed as such. 

If your main concern is reliability, then getting as new a pair in good condition as your budget will allow from a reputable seller is obviously the answer. It's easy to get confused with differing information on the web, just let your own eyes and ears decide which speakers are best for you.

G.

 

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9 LEE replied on Wed, Mar 16 2016 11:39 PM

Hi,

I'll try and answer as concisely as possible, using what knowledge I have!

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  • Manufactured between 1992 and 2010. : The 8000's were replaced with the 8002's around then, yes.
  • 1992-1993 3 (2,5) way, after that 2 way : Not sure about this.
  • 1999 upgraded bass elements : The bass drivers changed in their appearance, but I'm sure it was well before 1999..
  • 2003 upgraded circuitry (ABL) : Correct, although I think it was the way the bass was ported too.
  • 2010 replaced by BL 8002. Main technical difference is that ABL is replaced by ICE. : ICE is the amplifier, ABL is Acoustic Bass Linearisation (if i remember correctly!) which is nothing to do with the amplification...

 

Is this correct? Because I have heard a few people say that the bass upgrade took place 2003!? : Yes, the 'Bass Enhanced' versions were 2003->

But now it starts to get confusing. Some people call the 1999 version Mk2 (not to me they're not) and the 2003 version Mk3 (nope). Other people call the 2003 version Mk2 but don't explain how to differentiate between the pre-1999 and post-1999 versions (I cannot differentiate between pre and post 1999 and never have!). In this case there is no Mk3 (although I have heard references to BL 8002 as Beolab 8000 Mk3). : BeoLab 8002 are BeoLab 8002 - they are not BeoLab 8000 Mk3, or they would still have been called BeoLab 8000 ?!!!

Then there are two crucial s/n circulating, 16992475 which can be found on many sites, e.g., the now defunctBeophile.com and 10145230 mentioned on Beocentral. How do these s/n related to the different modifications mentioned above? : I'd rather not refer to the now defunct Beophile, but if anything is mentioned on Beocentral it's almost certainly correct. The authors of that site are hugely knowledgable and research thoroughly.

I have also seen speaker orginally sold 2006 (I saw the original receipt) with a s/n beginning with 15. Was different versions of the BL8000 sold in parallell several years after the 2003 upgrade?  : Serial Number 15****** is from 2001. If they were sold as new in 2006 then the dealer was ripping someone off.. Fact.

The original version had some issues with the material in the speaker elements that made them fail prematurely (I have heard at least two explanations - paper that dried or plastic that melted). Which upgrade got rid of this defect?: I've never once had a pair of BeoLab 8000 with foam rot. The driver surrounds are rubber. Don't worry.

In conclusion, I wouldn't stress about buying BeoLab 8000's. They're reliable, dependable and sound great - you can buy a pair from 1994 or 2009 and they'll both sound very similar.

Lee

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Mogelmose replied on Tue, Mar 22 2016 12:20 PM

9 LEE:

In conclusion, I wouldn't stress about buying BeoLab 8000's. They're reliable, dependable and sound great - you can buy a pair from 1994 or 2009 and they'll both sound very similar.

Lee

Thank you for your reply on this thread. Even though i'm not OP this is good info. I am getting more and more happy with my 1997 Beolab 8000 day for day and you just made that little itch for a pair of 8002 go 99% away! Stick out tongue

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