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Beogram 8000 transport advice

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mscili
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mscili Posted: Sun, Jul 22 2012 9:30 PM

Good evening!

In the next days or weeks I will have to transport (by car) a Beogram 8000 (or 8002), a Beomaster 8000 and a pair of Beovox MS-150. I am a bit worried about the Beogram... What should I do in order not to damage suspension, tonearm, cartridge and so on? This is not the usual turntable where you take the platter and the counterweight away, you lock the tonearm and you tighten the screws of the suspension if present...

Thanks for your advice,

Marco

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Peter replied on Sun, Jul 22 2012 9:43 PM

If transporting by car, do up the transit screws, remove the platter and store elsewhere and put a piece of foam rubber under the arm. Make sure the metal arm cover is well attached and also the platter surround (both are held on with double sided tape which perishes. Do that and don't drive like Stirling Moss and you will be fine!

I have done just this trip - I got the Beocord 9000 as well. It all fitted in a Toyota Camry estate - just! Including the stand!

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mscili replied on Mon, Jul 23 2012 1:01 PM

Thanks! It sound quite uncomplicated, good.

One more question: will everything (Beolab Beogram Beovox) be connected as usual with one single signal cable from one device to the other, or should I take special care not forgetting some Beo-Proprietary extra cable (Beolink, Beoconnect, Beotalk... I don't know...!)? And how many remote controls should I find (if any)?

Thanks!!!

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The components are connected with 7  (or 5)-pin DIN plug cable which was used by B&O and a lot of other northern European companies. You should be able to buy cables on eBay if you need them. The Beomaster 8000 had the Beolab Terminal as remote to control the Beogram 8000-series deck and Beocord 8000-series deck via Datalink (the two extra pins in the DIN plugs.)

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Peter replied on Mon, Jul 23 2012 7:31 PM

One 7 pin cable for each device - they do differ though as the PHONO cable has more shielding and will have a PH on it - I see no reason they won't be with the system!

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mscili replied on Tue, Aug 21 2012 10:00 PM

Hi! I'm back again, on Thursday I'll finally take a car and bring home all the B&O devices. Last quick question: will I find the transport screws of the Beomaster 8000 in the turntable, or are they supposed to be completely removed? In the latter case, which kind of screws should I buy for using as trasnport strews? And... Which kind of screwdriver will I need?

Thanks!!!

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Steffen replied on Tue, Aug 21 2012 10:25 PM

mscili:

Hi! I'm back again, on Thursday I'll finally take a car and bring home all the B&O devices. Last quick question: will I find the transport screws of the Beomaster 8000 in the turntable, or are they supposed to be completely removed? In the latter case, which kind of screws should I buy for using as trasnport strews? And... Which kind of screwdriver will I need?

Thanks!!!

As Peter wrote: remove the platter on the Beogram. Then you'll find find 3 transport screws. You tighten them, and that's that...
They can not be removed. You just turn them clockwise/counter clockwise to tighten/untighten.
I don't know what you mean by transportscrews for the Beomaster??? It has no such things...

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Dillen replied on Wed, Aug 22 2012 1:13 PM

Any 3-5mm standard flat screwdriver will do the screws, but not too long or you will have a battle with the dustcover.
The screws are found under the platter.
Screw them up so the head clears the metal washer, rotate the washer and tighten the screw. Three in total.

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mscili replied on Wed, Aug 22 2012 2:16 PM

Thank you so much for the details! Now everything is clear.

Of course there is no "Beomaster trasnport screw", I should have writtern "Beogram"... :)

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Steffen replied on Thu, Aug 23 2012 12:28 AM

Dillen:
Screw them up so the head clears the metal washer, rotate the washer and tighten the screw.

 

Hope you don't 'screw up'... Whistle Sorry...I couldn't help it...Wink

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Steffen:

Dillen:
Screw them up so the head clears the metal washer, rotate the washer and tighten the screw.

 

Hope you don't 'screw up'... Whistle Sorry...I couldn't help it...Wink

He wont, screwing is easyBig Smile

 

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Dillen replied on Thu, Aug 23 2012 6:32 AM

Søren Mexico:

Steffen:

Dillen:
Screw them up so the head clears the metal washer, rotate the washer and tighten the screw.

 

Hope you don't 'screw up'... Whistle Sorry...I couldn't help it...Wink

He wont, screwing is easyBig Smile

 

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mscili replied on Fri, Aug 24 2012 9:19 AM

Good morning again! Just a line to tell you the with your advice everything went fine with the transportation: I have now the MS150, the Beomaster 8000 and the Beogram 8000 at home and working.

The only problem, yesterday night: missing keys for FM, Volume, Monitor and Filters on the Beomaster. The only solution, after hearing some noise coming from inside while moving it: I dismantled a good part of it, found the keys happily travelling inside, put them back in the right place and put some adhesive tape in order to keep the circuit board with the switches in place, Very weak design in this detail... Any suggestion about a better fix than adhesive tape? (Yes, I managed to put everything together again and now it is 100% working!),

Many things ar better than expected: display on the Beomaster totally ok, foam surroundings on the MS150s absolutely perfect (and original, I guess), MMC20CL in good shape (great sound). The problems: the subwoofer on one of the loudspeakers is producing some distorted sound in a frequancy region where it should probably not sound at all (like wrong harmonics, maybe a crossover problem? - the woofer itself moves freely and looks perfect), the amplifier is not totally silent (a costant soft buzz at 215 Hz or so, indipendent from the volume control), the tonearm on the Beogram moves correctly but is definitely not parallel to the "control arm" while playing (one of them must be wrong...) and at one place in the middle of the way to the center of the record it makes kind of a "jump", with all the suspension oscillating (maybe come mechanical parts need ceaning and/or lubricating?). Ah, and one of the MS150 has a lighter colour than the other, probably because of getting direct sunlight everyday for years.

I'll start searching the forum for slowly bringing everything in the best possible condition... Any advice is welcome!

Marco

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Dillen replied on Fri, Aug 24 2012 12:05 PM

Beovox with a buzzing woofer sound; Check those surrounds again, they can break at the foam circumference unnoticed.

Martin

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mscili replied on Sun, Aug 26 2012 12:26 PM

Thanks Dillen, I checked the woofer more carefully and I found that it is misaligned. I Already ordered the new foam surrounds from Good Hifi... :) 

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