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Beolab 6000 Set Up to Denon Amp

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choc611
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choc611 Posted: Wed, Jun 8 2016 8:41 AM

Hi all,

 

I have finally got myself a stunning set of black Beolab 6000's for my new house which i can't wait to hook up. I just have to actually move in! Now, what i want to do is create a music station with a couple of my music bit hooked up to run through my new speakers. I have an old Denon amp/fm radio that was part of a 3 tier music system with tape deck and CD deck. I have no use for the two decks so am just utilizing the amp as a controller for my systems. 

 

My main question, i suppose, is what is the best way to connect my speakers to my Denon? I was wondering if i need to connect the two speaker with the 8 Pin Din that has an additional 8 pin. Then into that 8 pin, get a cable like an 8 pin to phono and connect it to my Denon like that?

 

Or should i use the line connection at the bottom and plug it directly into the amp? in which case, should my amp have two line in ports to connect the two speakers, or will i have to do something similar to above and connect the speakers then run a line off that?

Overall, i want to have my record player running to the amp, playing through the Beo's and maybe an AUX to just plug my phone in. I can connect the record player and an AUX easily, my main question is really the best way to hook up my speakers to my Amp.

 

Thanks in advanced for any help!

 

Charlie 

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AdamS replied on Thu, Jun 9 2016 1:00 PM

You will only be able to plug the Beolab 6000s into the Denon amplifier if it has preamplifier output sockets. You cannot use the speaker outputs as these are at too high a level.

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kallasr replied on Thu, Jun 9 2016 1:41 PM

Would be nice to know the exact model....

Check this site: http://www.av-connection.com/?PGr=5665

(search for powerlink trigger)

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Living Room: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-2 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 8000 (Rears), no Subwoofer. Screen: Sony KD-85XH9096
Dining Room: Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 4000 on stands, fed by Amazon Echo Show 8
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Bedroom: Sony KD-65XH9077, Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 6002 and Beolab 11 (all white, wall-mounted)

In storage: Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000 (1960s). 

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choc611 replied on Thu, Jun 9 2016 3:16 PM

Problem is, i am right in the process or moving house! With no end date confirmed yet which is really frustrating. So for the time being, my stuff is in storage and i can't get over to look at it. What i will do is come the moving date, which i'm hoping with all my heart is next week, i will dig it out straight away and get the model number posted to help.

Thanks for now!

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choc611 replied on Thu, Jun 9 2016 3:17 PM

As below...

 

Problem is, i am right in the process or moving house! With no end date confirmed yet which is really frustrating. So for the time being, my stuff is in storage and i can't get over to look at it. What i will do is come the moving date, which i'm hoping with all my heart is next week, i will dig it out straight away and get the model number posted to help.

Thanks for now!

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choc611 replied on Thu, Jun 9 2016 3:43 PM

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=denon+d77&rlz=1C1QJDB_enGB669GB670&espv=2&biw=1600&bih=775&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjBusXNlpvNAhUpCsAKHd5dCqAQ_AUIBygC#imgrc=TEp-T_VD1UYTAM%3A

 

I have found it!!! Google is amazing. The link will take you to a picture of the rear of the amp and hopefully show you what you're looking for!

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Earle replied on Thu, Jun 9 2016 4:23 PM

From the way the picture looks, you can only connect your BeoLab 6000 using the Line-in RCA on the bottom of the speaker. This will then connect directly to the Speaker Out of your amp/receiver via a SIGNAL ATTENUATOR, which will reduce the Speaker Out level to Line Level.

You can get one from SoundsHeavenly, eBay, Amazon, or make one yourself, like the one I made pictured below.

Good Luck!

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Lee replied on Thu, Jun 9 2016 4:25 PM
I don't think you'll be able to use the BL6000s with that Amp. You need an amplifier with a volume controlled preamp output... You could connect the speakers to the tape out sockets but you won't be able to control the volume and they will be far too loud (loud enough to damage them perhaps?)

The amp does have a processor out loop but again I highly doubt this will be volume controlled....

I believe sounds heavenly sell a speaker out to line level attenuator that will allow you to connect the speaker outputs to the speakers but you will loose some sound quality going that route... Whether the reduction in sound quality will be enough to bother you is a matter of personal taste.

Whatever you do don't connect the BL6000s to the speaker outputs without the attenuator or you will damage them!

Lee

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Earle replied on Thu, Jun 9 2016 4:35 PM

In the meantime, you might want to connect the speakers to an MP3 player first (this will definitely work ok), so you can do a quick audible check on the condition of the drivers.

MP3 3.5mm Line-out > Speaker RCA Line-in

Most BL6000's by this time would have damage to the speaker surrounds, unless they've already been repaired/replaced. Visually, you might be able to see cracks on the rubber surrounds, but you'll definitely hear distortion audibly.

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@choc611

If your Denon is the one pictured below,- simply connect your BL6000 to the "processor out" using standard RCA cables....

Move the switch into the Line position,- and enjoy! Smile

"Made in Germany" Guess that is why its still around Smile

 

 

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Lee replied on Thu, Jun 9 2016 6:05 PM
But how will you control the volume if you do that? I'd be very surprised if an external processor loop had variable volume control.
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@Lee 

You might be right, but I would give it at least a 50% chance that the volume control is before the "link" connection.

Give it a shot Smile

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choc611 replied on Thu, Jun 9 2016 8:13 PM

Thanks for the help everyone. By chance i actually got myself one of these http://soundsheavenly.com/line-in-connection/33--attenuator-.html in the hope it would be one i need. So would it be advisable to get myself a Din to RCA (is that right, RCA?) which will plug the speakers into this attenuator then connect the speaker wire to my speaker inputs on the Denon or is that going to cause mayhem?

 

This probably sounds silly but the speakers have one line output and din output each. Therefore, do i need to link them with a cable first? It's all very confusing for me, this B&O stuff as lovely as it is sure is complicated unless you have fellow B&O systems to go with it. 

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choc611 replied on Thu, Jun 9 2016 8:53 PM

I think i'm struggling to find the cables i need too. I just don't seem to be able to grasp this. The powerlink cables, do you have to have something that will plug into both 1&2 then to an RCA. So a duel Powerlink to RCA, one for each speaker?

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@choc611

The DIN sockets are Powerlink inputs and require a trigger signal to power on the speakers. In a B&O environment this will happen automatically.

In a NON B&O setup you have to create/provide that trigger signal, and in your case it looks complicated at best!

The Line Input will accept anything you throw at it, and the auto sense will turn on your speakers! 


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Lee replied on Thu, Jun 9 2016 9:58 PM
All you need is a couple of RCA (phono) leads. Plug one end of the phono cable in to one speaker and the other into the left or right output on the attenuator and do the same for the other speaker. Easy peasy. Ignore the powerlink sockets until you get a B&O system.
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Lee replied on Thu, Jun 9 2016 10:00 PM
This is what you need...

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/331700366501
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choc611 replied on Thu, Jun 9 2016 10:34 PM

Got it. Thank You VERY MUCH

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