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B&O's Bluetooth performance

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elephant
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elephant Posted: Sun, Jun 19 2016 7:03 AM
In various product threads (most notably the H8) there have been discussions around Bluetooth performance.

I think this is complex topic; with performance being affected by movement, crowded spectrum, source implementation, destination implementation, a/v material, BT chipsets and the like.

In our extended family we now have 5 B&O/ BeoPlay Bluetooth products.

Today I conducted an A1 test where I had clear line of site transmission over 16+ metres. I think that is great.

My understanding of BT standards and capabilities is from this information on the web (see at end of this OP).

What have been your positive experiences ?

With class 1 Bluetooth devices transmitting at 100mW, which have a standard range of approximately 100 meters or 328 feet, range is comparable to that of an 802.11b WLAN device. Class 1 devices are most commonly implemented in devices where power is plentiful, such as laptop and desktop systems.

Device Class Transmit Power Intended Range

Class 3 1 mW less than 10 meters

Class 2 2.5 mW 10 meters, 33 feet

Class 1 100 mW 100 meters, 328 feet

Figure 1. Bluetooth device transmitter classes [2]

In contrast, class 2 devices transmit at 2.5 mW with a range of approximately 10 meters or 32 feet. Class 2 devices are the most common Bluetooth transmitters for their fair range with less power requirements than class 1 devices. Most mobile phones and Bluetooth headsets are class 2 devices.

Since Bluetooth devices operate in the 2.4 GHz spectrum, they use the same commodity antennas designed for WLAN devices.

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TWG replied on Sun, Jun 19 2016 9:56 AM

There is NO excuse to deliver such a lousy product as the H8 headphones!

The Bluetooth Standard is now over 15 years old (Bluetooth 1.0 was born 1999) and for a company like B&O it's simply embarrsing to deliver such unreliable products!

Crowded places, movement, materials etc. are problems other companies had to face, too. For example my 6 years old SonyEricsson MW600 Bluetooth stereo headset works without any issues, no matter if I'm in the airport, inside a train during rush hour etc. It simply works flawlessly as intended.
After my experience with the H8 I'll never buy wireless headphones from B&O again! I use my H3 in combination with the MW600 and that works!

The bluetooth speakers seem to be ok.

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Duels replied on Sun, Jun 19 2016 10:45 AM
My H8s work just fine. They are the later serial number version. After reading earlier reports I waited for the updated version to come out.

I agree with the comment that there is no excuse for this old technology not to work right and personally I would have been very disappointed to be offered a refurbished pair to replace faulty headphones.

But I can move around my house with my h8s on (upstairs too with my phone downstairs) and not get dropouts. Which is better than I would ever have expected.
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elephant replied on Sun, Jun 19 2016 1:28 PM
Duels:

But I can move around my house with my h8s on (upstairs too with my phone downstairs) and not get dropouts. Which is better than I would ever have expected.

And my daughter-in-law use an A2 in the centre of a 3 story dwelling and it works perfectly no matter where she roams.

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Duels replied on Sun, Jun 19 2016 2:18 PM
elephant:

And my daughter-in-law use an A2 in the centre of a 3 story dwelling and it works perfectly no matter where she roams. BeoNut since '75

I can echo that. My A2 works anywhere in my place irrespective of where the source is. Faultless.
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