ARCHIVED FORUM -- March 2012 to February 2022READ ONLY FORUM
This is the second Archived Forum which was active between 1st March 2012 and 23rd February 2022
Duels:Hey Michael many congratulations on your new acquisition. Fantastic stuff! That's flipping quick for Australian dealers to be getting them in.
Aussie Michael:Exactly. They went through a change when the Aussie ownership changed. They changed it that there was no stock on hand and you had to order everything - even an a9 cover took 6 weeks - bloody odd. When they said they had 1 and in stock I was like huh.
Aussie Michael:Gaz tried the Beo Remote One. He said to me "see I can make it work". The situation was there was no avant on - only the BS1 and the A9. He pressed on the power and both turned off. I haven't tried fwd or back with the remote. I'm not sure if it was the BS1 but there are no other eyes for it to be seen. The price in Aussie is just a little more than an a6 and less than an a9. It is setup as wireless. I'll teach ya Aussie. You'll be buttered on both sides mate 👍🏼 It keeps moving like an alien. A friendly alien. What should I call him ? His name is now Darius.
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
Aussie Michael:Gaz tried the Beo Remote One. He said to me "see I can make it work". The situation was there was no avant on - only the BS1 and the A9. He pressed on the power and both turned off. I haven't tried fwd or back with the remote.
Not quite the same test ... but I did a long shut down on an Essence that was in Stand By and across the NL/ML that sent a Stand By to the BV8.
So my guess is the dormant Avant picked up the signal and dutifully sent it across the NL to bother the BS1 and the A9.
BeoNut since '75
Aussie Michael:Now i think i will sell my BL3s and have the BS1 instead in that room
Not that surprised about the comparisons to the A6, but very surprised you'd replace two BL3's with one BS1... I would have thought a pair of 3's would kick the *** out of the BS1, or is it because of the connectivity of the BS1?
Thanks for the pictures and in depth thoughts! Congratulations!
Michael, maybe you should name it Davros...
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
Aussie Michael:It keeps moving like an alien. A friendly alien. What should I call him ? His name is now Darius.
"Metro" is another possibility, like the little robot of the cartoon "Once upon a time... Space"
elephant: Thanks for the music references - I enjoyed the Helge Lien Trio for a whole album even though I did not find Snurt ! And also Kare & Cavemen ... my better half gave Frøder the thumbs down on looks alone I did find a Snurt track under Fordivi - Tri O 'Trang which was very nice.
Thanks for the music references - I enjoyed the Helge Lien Trio for a whole album even though I did not find Snurt ! And also Kare & Cavemen ... my better half gave Frøder the thumbs down on looks alone
I did find a Snurt track under Fordivi - Tri O 'Trang which was very nice.
Haha. Cool that you actually searched it up and listened to it. :-) I only realised afterwards that these are all norwegian artists. As far as I know, anyway.
The song "snurt" is on the album "Hello Troll", which I think is my favourite Helge Lien Trio album. Frøder I had never even heard of just two weeks ago. Some fairly new half-electronica, half-pop something-something that I have gathered is up and coming these days, so I tried to listen to it and quite liked it. Kåre & The Cavemen (aka "Euroboys", which they actually changed their name to later) are 90s rock legends in norway. My favourite is the album Long Day's Flight 'Till Tomorrow. The whole album is worth listening through in one sitting, in my opinion.
I would also have loved to give Susanne Sundfør a spin, but I only thought of it afterwards. Can do it later, I suppose. Her latest album, Ten Love Songs, is amazing, if you like that kind of sound. The recording quality is good as well, and I've heard the staff of the B&O store use both "Kamikaze" and "Delirious" to demo Beolab 5s.
-h.
Duels, it wasn't their demo unit as that's the one I was playing with in the shop. The one i purchased was a brand spanker - the box hadn't even been opened.
As soon as I said Darius, someone else here said, derr, call it Davros lol.
CB, thanks for the metro - now i will have to look metro up. It certainly does look like metro.
In terms of use, i came across some issue. If I am playing the "ongoing music experience" from my avant on Darius and I long press on Darius (? that sounds odd lol) the Avant goes off but didn't go in to stand by. If i use the remote, it does.
I found that the swiping is the same as the moment, it feels like you swipe from left to right (which to me is going backward) to go to the next (forward) track. But i think its like on an apple and they call that a 'natural swipe'. Makes sense if you have a picture and you're moving it, but when its an input like the wheely, i feel like its backward. Would be good if you can change that on the app.
The little light dims when you're playing and when you change the volume on the wheely, it lights back up again to show you that you're using it.
I found that if you configure the speaker on the computer rather than use the BeoSetup app > Safari > Bonjour > Speaker that the interface is quicker - must be due to the computing power of the PC?
In the setup under "Your Content" "Sources" there is a "music stream" option where i dont recall seeing that with the a9 or a6. I only have selected Deezer, TuneIn, Music, Bluetooth, Airplay, Music Stream. There are a whole lot of link sources, which i haven't enabled, so i am not sure what they mean.
@Aussie Michael: you said you will use it as a "presence speaker" with your TV - does that mean you can join it to your TV's audio via NL? And then it can act as a central speaker... ...how was it?
I assume placing it on the side might confuse the ear when it comes to surround effect?
PK:
How does it sound?
Thermos't base you've ever experienced?
Beo Century ,Beoplay V1, Beocenter 6, Ex-Beolit 12, Beotime , A8. Beolit 15 , Form 2i , Beolab 2000, Beoplay A3.Beosound 1
PK:The local B&O-store will get the Beosound in the middle of this week. Until then:
Hot !
Mark-N:How does it sound?
Empty ?
Beosound 100 under development....
I would describe it as warm ;)
Crazy world. Such a price for a mono speaker manufactured in China. No way.
hope you can use two of them and use them as a stereo pair.
4 beolab 5, beolab 9, beolab 10, beolab 5000, beolab 8000 mk2, beolab 6002, beolab 3500, beovision 7 55 mk2, 2 beovision 11 46 mk4, beotime, beosound ouverture, beosound essence, beoplay A8, beomaster 900 RG de luxe and the collection continues...
I know Olvisab, if you'd told people in the 1970s that people in 2016 were spending £1000 on a mono speaker they'd of been hysterical. I still don't get the mono thing but hey, fashion comes and goes. Apparently the new iPhone 7 is going to have stereo speakers in it - one will be in the actual ear piece slot on the top and the other, a upgraded speaker at the bottom of the phone.
Shame that a true BANG&OLUFSEN is made in China though. Maybe £500 would have been a more realistic price. Sales will no doubt tell.
My feeling (and hope for B&O) is that both the BS1 and BS2 will be good sellers. I say this because assuming the sound is good enough (what we have come to expect from the brand - or better) then people will be won over by design, and that's what will sell the products. I know for me B&O has always been more about the design that the function, although of course I am really looking for both where possible. It's the design of a product that makes it stands out from the competition though, don't you think? Perhaps its just me... :)
B&O products are V1-32, BS2, H95, E8 and an Essence remote.11-46 now replaced with Sony A90J 65”, Sony HT-A9, Sony UBP-X800M2 and Sony SRS-NS7.
Mr 10Percent:Beosound 100 under development....
Moss Boss green ?
Torsten Valeur - Design idea / inspiration.
BAND'OH!:My feeling (and hope for B&O) is that both the BS1 and BS2 will be good sellers. I say this because assuming the sound is good enough (what we have come to expect from the brand - or better) then people will be won over by design, and that's what will sell the products. I know for me B&O has always been more about the design that the function, although of course I am really looking for both where possible. It's the design of a product that makes it stands out from the competition though, don't you think? Perhaps its just me... :)
Totally agree wirh you, Aussie Michael.
But I wonder why 'people' focus so much on the 'mono-thingy'.
The focus by a speaker/BS, that is supposed to be listened to in a room, where you move a lot around, should be, that it sounds good (and equal good) whereever you happen to be in that room.
That is why the focus should be on 'omnidirectional' - after what I have heard (listening to the BS1 for some time), B&O pretty much succeded in making this work.
Those who feel sooo sorry the BS1 being 'mono' please tell me, what is so good about stereo?
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
I will answer you with one word : soundstage.
if you don't hear the difference then buy only mono speaker.
for an occasional use, when you move a lot around, ok that make the job but at this level of price I am sorry that is too high for its features.
olvisab: I will answer you with one word : soundstage. if you don't hear the difference then buy only mono speaker. for an occasional use, when you move a lot around, ok that make the job but at this level of price I am sorry that is too high for its features.
The answer is correct (there could be more, however).
But - one thing that is annoying, when you are moving around in a room (or more people are in the same room), is the 'shifting' of the soundstage.
As soon as you move away from the center spot aka sweet spot the sound(stage) is shifting, is extremely annoying (to me).
On the other hand sitting right in the sweet spot in front of a pair of stereo speaker - in a 'well trimmed' room (!) - is a pleasure.
This is hardly the way people (including myself) listen to/use music, when they are in a k*tchen, a dining room, a bath room....
Not one shoe fits all - a speaker setup should be worked out to do its best in a given situation.
That is the reason why the BS1 omnidirectional concept was chosen for the BS1.
There are plenty of other speaker options for creating a multichannel setup (including stereo) in the B&O portfolio.
Aussie Michael:As they said on Romy & Michelle's High School Reunion, "mono is like the best diet ever" They have so many speakers available, so everyone is sure to find one that suits them if this one doesn't. A crazy world isn't a mono speaker - funnily enough it doesn't even sound mono. There are so many more 'excessive' products available.
Chris Townsend:The only people with a problem about this device, are the ones who haven't heard it yet. Go and listen. Walk around as if you are in a kitchen, or doing naked ironing etc Beovision 7-55 Mk2, Avant RF 28, Beolab 9, Beolit 15, Beoplay A1/A2, Beocom 2, Beotime, H3 ANC/H8/H6/H2, Form 2, Beoplay A3, Beovision 5-42 connected to a DVD1
No, I don't think the BeoSound 1 is as good as a single BeoLab 3.
Lee
Chris Townsend: Go and listen. Walk around as if you are in a kitchen, or doing naked ironing etc
Go and listen. Walk around as if you are in a kitchen, or doing naked ironing etc
I tried naked ironing once. Hurt like the dickens and I was still wrinkled afterwards.
For non critical listening, that is not sitting down and focusing on a "listening experience" in stereo or multi-channel, a wide dispersion mono setup works well. Kind of like how the ALT speakers give you a decent stereo image over a wide range of seating positions, something like this lets you get pretty uniform sound over the whole room, i.e. when you move off the center axis of a single normal speaker you get reduced highs, not with a setup like this. So I can definitely see the point.
In my dining/kitchen area, I have a pair of BL8000s on MasterLink. In between them is also where I keep my A3 on charge and to use as a remote for iTunes or Spotify if I stream it to the main setup for use with the 8000s. But, I find I often just fire up the A3, as it's easier and quicker than turning on the main setup, setting the volume, getting the streaming setup to the main system, etc. That's a tad cumbersome as opposed to the newer setups that have streaming built in but it works and it's the hardware and software I have, but a setup like the BS1 or 2 that have their own easy to stream setup and come up and get running quicker would have it's uses,
Re: Beosound 2
I'm also very interested to know if you could run these as a stereo pair, either from streaming services or the 3.5mm jack (via RCA to 3.5mm to each).
It used to be the case that at mastering stage all stereo tracks were checked in mono (usually on a "home" equivalent speaker such as an auratone to simulate a cheap AM radio) before signing off the mix to ensure there were no horrendous phase cancellations etc that caused "holes" in the resulting frequency response.
I would assume this still happens although its been a long while since the main broadcast media was mono (although I do think dance music is properly checked because of mono club pa systems)
It would be interesting to hear if anyone picks up any audio anomalies in a track that they otherwise know well that could be attributed to a mono mix.
Ban boring signatures!
Puncher: It used to be the case that at mastering stage all stereo tracks were checked in mono (usually on a "home" equivalent speaker such as an auratone to simulate a cheap AM radio) before signing off the mix to ensure there were no horrendous phase cancellations etc that caused "holes" in the resulting frequency response. I would assume this still happens although its been a long while since the main broadcast media was mono (although I do think dance music is properly checked because of mono club pa systems) It would be interesting to hear if anyone picks up any audio anomalies in a track that they otherwise know well that could be attributed to a mono mix.
Ah, the famous, or rather infamous, Horrortones! Seen them in many a studio, wonder if they still use them, it's been a while since I was in a pro studio. My two friends who have studios do exclusively stereo, but then they aren't mixing for the major record labels or such, more niche and upmarket/audiophile kind of stuff.
9 LEE:No, I don't think the BeoSound 1 is as good as a single BeoLab 3. Lee
spangle:Re: Beosound 2 I'm also very interested to know if you could run these as a stereo pair, either from streaming services or the 3.5mm jack (via RCA to 3.5mm to each).
I guess everything is down to personal preference, but neither of those speaker systems appeal aesthetically to me. (Especially the floor stander BL17 - why is the logo the wrong way round)
There's the potential for a bit of flexibility with the Beosound 2s as you could run them separately if you wanted to.
It's more of a proof of concept if anything, it would be quite interesting, especially as it might alter the 'sweet spot' from conventional stereo setups with the '360°' concept.