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Beovision 14 - Bitperfect ?

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Actionspeax Posted: Wed, Aug 31 2016 9:32 PM

I am thinking about buying a beovision 14 and using with deezer. But i am wondering if the tv automatically will switch the sample to 16/44.1 kHz (bit perfect) from the usual 48 kHz

 

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Aug 31 2016 10:15 PM

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Actionspeax:

I am thinking about buying a beovision 14 and using with deezer. But i am wondering if the tv automatically will switch the sample to 16/44.1 kHz (bit perfect) from the usual 48 kHz

 

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Not sure I understand your question?

Deezer is streaming 16/44.1/CD/RedBook standart compressed.

Where does the 'usual 48kHz' come into play?

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Exactly, Deezer etc is 16/44.1 but tv/dvd/Blu-ray outputs audio in 48khz, so the question is if the the tv automatically adjusts the sample rate or just upsample everything to 48kkhz 

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Yes, a connection of an external device via HDMI often happens in 48kHz, but Deezer is an internal source, I don't see any reason for a convertion there.

What makes you think, that it will be upsamplet from 44.1 to 48 kHz in the BV14 before it will be decoded?

To be honest - the exact answer probably can only be given by the makers of the BV14/audio engine!

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What makes me think it does it ? 

Well most tvs on the market and the apple tv does it - Only one sample rate out so everything gets converted to match that.

 

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BEOVOX141 replied on Sat, Sep 3 2016 11:46 PM

Millemissen:
RedBook standart compressed.

Please elaborate,- which compression would that be?

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BEOVOX141:

Millemissen:
RedBook standart compressed.

Please elaborate,- which compression would that be?

How hard can that be?

16/44.1 is the standart of a CD - if you take a file with 16/44.1 content and encode it with a lossy encoder (you name them), you will get a compressed file.

Apart from Tidal Hifi and Deezer Elite every streaming service is using 'lossy compression', but the origin was a 16/44.1 file.

That - however - is not the point of the op....

....he wants to know, what happens to the file in the audio engine!

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Millemissen:

How hard can that be?

16/44.1 is the standart of a CD - if you take a file with 16/44.1 content and encode it with a lossy encoder (you name them), you will get a compressed file.

It still doesn't explain what "RedBook standard compressed" is ?

The Redbook has a provision for emphasis but not for data compression, remember it was conceived more than 25 years ago! 

 

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It was merely to state the fact that streaming services use 16/44.1 content for their services.

Don't be nitpicking - I am quite sure you know what I meant ;-)

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Jeff replied on Sun, Sep 4 2016 3:52 PM

BEOVOX141:

Millemissen:

How hard can that be?

16/44.1 is the standart of a CD - if you take a file with 16/44.1 content and encode it with a lossy encoder (you name them), you will get a compressed file.

It still doesn't explain what "RedBook standard compressed" is ?

The Redbook has a provision for emphasis but not for data compression, remember it was conceived more than 25 years ago! 

 

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