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Beosound 5 - Multiroom

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MARKFS Posted: Sat, Aug 4 2012 9:57 PM

Hi there Beoworld.

I'm currently thinking about buying a Beosound 5.

I know that I can stream/send the sound from the unit to the speakers in ex. my bedroom.

But, if I buy two units and place one in my living room and one in my bedroom connected to the same beomaster, will I be able to select a song on the unit in my living room and then control the volume, play/pause on the unit in my bedroom? 

 

 

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MARKFS replied on Sat, Aug 4 2012 10:01 PM

...and see what track and currently playing on the unit in the bedroom

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cchong replied on Mon, Aug 6 2012 3:50 PM

Hi there,

I have a similar setup with the BeoSound 5 Audio Master in the main room, connected directly to a pair of Beolab 5s. It was installed by the B&O techie.

I use a 2 Beolink Wireless 1's , deployed as a Transmitter (Masterlink connected) in the main room, and Receiver in the other linked rooms. The receiver is connected to a set of BeoLab 3's using Powerlink, with an IR Eye for volume control etc.

You can use the Beo 6 remote, with the 2 way communication when listening to N.Music, you can select album etc, play, pause.

Hope this helps.

Thanks.

 

Setup: BeoSound 5, BeoLab 5 (White), BeoSystem 3, Beolab 3, Beolink Wireless 1, Beo 6 Remote.

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cchong:
I use a 2 Beolink Wireless 1's , deployed as a Transmitter (Masterlink connected) in the main room, and Receiver in the other linked rooms. The receiver is connected to a set of BeoLab 3's using Powerlink, with an IR Eye for volume control etc.

As do I, but as we are currently discussing the the PlayMaker thread, perhaps the PlayMaker offers greater flexibility.

But neither approach allows a display similar to having a second Beosound 5 which is what I think the Original Poster was asking about.

I can't comment on the Beo6 usability, but the Playmaker and a smart phone would allow the OP to browse content art work but on a smaller screen (or larger if using a tablet!)

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MARKFS replied on Mon, Aug 6 2012 5:54 PM

Hello.

Thanks for the replies.

Yes, I was wondering about the opportunity to having two beosound5's and being able to switch between the two units and the speakers.

More or less like SONOS. 

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Rikard replied on Mon, Aug 6 2012 7:19 PM

I think you can have one BS5 as a music server in your livingroom and then a BS5 Encore in your bedroom using the same harddrive as the BS5 - one place for the music. 
I red about the setup in the BeO5 manual :) Then you have the same type of setup av Sonos, but much nicer in my opinion..

 

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mbee replied on Mon, Aug 6 2012 7:29 PM

This setup can only work as two "standalone" BS5/5E : the Encore cannot play in sync with the main BS5. It's not like a Sonos. And the BS5E can't be controlled with 2-way via Beo6. So currently, B&O doesn't offer the capabilities and simplicity of Sonos.

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MARKFS replied on Mon, Aug 6 2012 8:37 PM

Okay that is also what I thought.

That it could only be two standalone units with the same harddrive. 

It's a shame, because the sonos system is really simple, but the design and elegance of the BS5 is amazing! 

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beojeff replied on Mon, Aug 6 2012 10:01 PM

In my opinion, B&O has really missed a great opportunity here. I would like to be able to have link room controllers like the BeoSound 5 Encore in link rooms to control the BeoSound5/BeoMaster 5, using the same great physical interface. The problem with using a BeoSound 5 Encore to achieve this is that you don't have the capability to "extend" the same music throughout one's house. Granted, for some it may be attractive for different family members to play different music in different rooms, but it would also be nice to have the option to "extend" the same music in link rooms as we have become accustomed with B&O's Masterlink system. My dealer told me that B&O was working on implementing this into the Encore. That was over a year ago. Surely, part of this problem is the omission of a Masterlink connection from the Encore. Quite frankly, I'm tired of the excuse that B&O is transitioning to a new link system that is a successor to Masterlink. It's been years and it still hasn't happened. Just keep the existing Masterlink connections for now and provide a converter box once the new link system emerges!

To me, the Beo6 is not a satisfactory link room replacement for the physical BeoSound 5 interface. For some, it make be a nice solution, but to me it's just too small and lacks the B&O "magic" of the BeoSound 5 screen. The new 3rd party BeoSound 5 controller app for the iPad comes close, but it still is too buggy and unreliable. Hopefully that app will make some big improvements soon or B&O will provide their own iPad app that mirrors that experience of the BeoSound 5 screen. Buying an iPad just for this in a link room is certainly cheaper than buying an Encore. However, I probably would have been willing to buy an Encore if B&O had gotten it right.

Also, I think that B&O's site does NOTHING to make it clear what the difference between a BeoSound 5 / BeoMaster 5 and a BeoSound 5 Encore is. It would be so sensible to clearly market the BeoSound 5 / BeoMaster 5 as a solution for those who want multi-room sound. Whereas, the BeoSound 5 Encore would be either for those one only need a single room solution or who want to extend their BeoSound 5 / BeoMaster 5 into link rooms with control. This confusion is evident from the posts on here from BeoWorlders who expect B&O to extend the same features of the BeoSound 5 / BeoMaster 5 to the Encore and who seem frustrated that the Encore lacks all the features of the BeoSound 5 / Beomaster 5.

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MARKFS replied on Tue, Aug 7 2012 6:58 AM

But let me gets this right.

If I have two beosound5's, one in my bedroom and one in my livingroom, connected to the same beomaster, is it possible for me then, to play two different songs in each room?

And, is it possible to select a song in my bedroom on the beosound 5, and then send the audio to the speaker on my livingroom? 

The encore solution would be great! I hope they make that available soon. 

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beojeff replied on Tue, Aug 7 2012 11:55 AM

MARKFS:

But let me gets this right.

If I have two beosound5's, one in my bedroom and one in my livingroom, connected to the same beomaster, is it possible for me then, to play two different songs in each room?

And, is it possible to select a song in my bedroom on the beosound 5, and then send the audio to the speaker on my livingroom? 

The encore solution would be great! I hope they make that available soon. 

Yes, you can play two different songs separately on two BeoSounds connected to the same BeoMaster. However, currently you have no control from a link room BeoSound over what is played in another room. While my dealer said that B&O was "working" on adding that function, I'm not holding my breath. It's been well over a year since I heard that rumor.

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mbee replied on Tue, Aug 7 2012 1:32 PM

In fact, it is quite simple in terms of programming to make the simultaneous play available in Beosound 5/Encore : they have to be DLNA renderer and DLNA controllers at the same time. When playing a song, you could have the choice between outputs : the own BS5 DLNA renderer of the first BS5, and the second renderer of another BS5.

The software libraries exist, the BS5 is already DLNA, and the BS5E has to be made DLNA compatible first. But it's just a matter of some lines of code in those platforms, and it's really a shame that B&O didn't already made that kind of feature available.

With those same lines of code (which let the user choose the output between many DLNA renderers), a BS5 could directly output sound in sync to many Playmakers, as they are DLNA renderers!

All the components to make a "new and imrpoved" masterlink are already in our homes for weeks, B&O just aren't good enough in programming. What a shame.

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MARKFS replied on Tue, Aug 7 2012 1:39 PM

Thank you all for all the answers.

I don't think it's that huge a problem with the multiroom.

You can just start a song in the masterroom, transfer the sound to the link room.

If you decide that you want to hear another song, just stop the music from the masterroom and find the song you want on the beosound5 in the linkroom :)

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MARKFS replied on Tue, Aug 7 2012 1:54 PM

But yes, It would have been great to have the simultaneous playback function so that the sound would change in all the rooms no matter which unit you used. 

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