Beogram 4500 not playing via playmaker to BS9000

Helllo,

 

Following another thread where people have their Beogram connected to their playmaker to the BS9000. I have been searching for a Beogram 4500. I found one and have it now set up.

The playmaker is connected to the BS9000 and airplay works fine.

When I start the Beogram I hear no sound :-(

On my Beo4 I select LIST LIST and then find AUX.MEM and select GO. On the display of the BS9000 it shows A.Tape

The BS9000 is wall mounted so I can't easily plug on BG directly to BS9000.

Also the cable coming from BS9000 to Playmaker has a male end. No possibilites to connect there, since Beogram's cable is also male.

I am a bit out of options on how to test the BG4500 - it might be faulty. I have a BG9500 as well, but I don't have an RIAA.

 

Well, reading back it seems that I don't have a lot of things - sorry for that.

I am suspecting that PM isn't picking up BG audio input.

All help is appreciated

Hi Ferdinand,

You have to use A.AUX on your Beo4 to get the line in (beogram4500) sound into your playmaker.

(this will result in choosing both a.aux on your playmaker and a.aux on your bs9000)

(pressing a,mem (aux.mem) will chose the playmakers airplay input and the bs9000´s a.tape input (for the bs9000 a.aux and a.tape is the same command).

 

Please say if this solved your problem or not. I don´t have a system to test my playmaker on at the moment.

Hi Leo,

 

I don't have A.AUX on my Beo4, I have A.MEM. Previously and also now with A.MEM I can play airstream music via the playmaker.

Any other way to actually tell the PM that the line in has to be used?

 

Also, I'll think of a way to test the BG4500 seperatly from my own set-up to rule out that it is faulty.

Ok.

But in case you don't know how to add the a.aux button I'll write it here.

You can add the button. Press red button and list on the Beo4 and press go when it shows add. Then press list until it shows a.aux, then press go again.

Now you have a.aux in list.

One way to test the system would be to turn of both units, then only turn on a.tape/a.aux on the Beosound 9000. Then pressing play on the Beogram should make the playmaker autosense the input.

Are you sure your rca cables are properly inserted into the playmaker? I didn't insert them properly the first time I used mine and had the same problem.

Hi Ferdinand,

 

keep in mind that the Plamaker has also a source priotity system implemented!

AirPlay has the highest priority, then comes DLNA / UPnP and the least priority is for the AUX-LineIn. So if you want to use your Beogramm you should switch of the Airplay connection on your iPhone (I'm more into Android )

 

I have the same setup and confirm use of A.AUX on one Beo4 and PHONO on another. Granted these Beo4, are older than yours.

Beoaus

The line-in of the Playmaker has 'autosense' - which means that it will turn on right away, when the BeoGram (or whatever is connected) is started.

Just be sure that AirPlay/DLNA is not still activated from a former playback.

That is how it works in my setup for years now.

Start your BS9000 as you already do it - with A.MEM - but be sure, that your Playmaker is set to Option 0.Otherweise that would receive the ir-commands as well (A.MEM would initiate AirPlay there).

The volume output of the Playmaker should be set to 'fixed' - and all volume should be controlled via BS9000/Beo4.

MM

Hi guys, thanks a ton for all the replies.

I will check and go through it tonight when my kids are in bed.

I will also test the Beogram on a friends Marshall amplifier that has an RCA line-in

Will revert back!

Years ago I made a guide - in danish - but since you are from Sweden, it might be at help for you.

You can find it here:

http://www.hifi4all.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=46053&PN=1&TPN=235

Look for the post from 

03 Oktober 2012 kl. 18:32

MM

Thanks MM!

Meanwhile I tried the BG4500 on my friends Marshall thinghy and it worked, so I have to study PM options and connections a bit further.

Millemissen:

The line-in of the Playmaker has 'autosense' - which means that it will turn on right away, when the BeoGram (or whatever is connected) is started.

Just be sure that AirPlay/DLNA is not still activated from a former playback.

That is how it works in my setup for years now.

Start your BS9000 as you already do it - with A.MEM - but be sure, that your Playmaker is set to Option 0.Otherweise that would receive the ir-commands as well (A.MEM would initiate AirPlay there).

The volume output of the Playmaker should be set to 'fixed' - and all volume should be controlled via BS9000/Beo4.

MM

That's exactly how my PM and BS9000 are set up. I have a Beogram 3000 tangential run through an outboard phono preamp and into the aux in of the PM, and the PM hooked into my BS9000 aux/tape input. Option and volume set as you say above. Works perfectly, but if you start a wireless playback source, Airplay or DLNA, it takes precedent over the phono/aux input as mentioned.

Hello MM and others,

Almost there ... or maybe it is working as it should now.

I have read through the Danish manual of MM (thanks again), and I have found this topic http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/5143.aspx on how to set PM in option 0. It is all working and there is sound:-)

However I would like the output of the PM to be a bit louder because now, volume level 20 is different level coming from CD (BS9000) or LP (BG4500)

The fixed volume output, can that somehow we changed? Reading Steve's post (link above) the fixed volme is full?

I appreciate all the feedback guys, it amazes me every time how helpful each one of you is. And thaks Steve for the cable, it arrived within just a couple of days!

Ferdinand

Hi Ferdinand,

how much difference do you experience?

Often a vinyl is a bit quiter that what comes from most CD's.

I don't have a BeoGram connected to the Playmaker, but the device connected is set to output at line-level and I haven't noticed any major differences in what is coming directly from my BeoSystem or via the Playmaker.

How is the soundlevel, when you AirPlay something?

MM

Hello everyone,

I decided to continue on this since my problem is similar but less complicated (I hope)

I have BS9000 MKIII connected to BV8-40 via ML. I have 2 Penta Active and a BL2 all connected to BV8-40. TV -RADIO-CD all works fine.

I connected my BG4500 to the AUX connection on the BS9000. I press play on the BG45000 and starts playing the record. I press A AUX on the BS9000 and on the BS9000 "screen" but I have NO SOUND from the speakers. What am I doing wrong?

Thank you all in advance!

Spiros.

Hi Ferdinand,

Glad to hear that the cable arrived quickly!  It is normal for Beograms to give a slightly lower volume level than other music sources (they should usually only need one or two pushes of the volume up button to match the level of CD or radio), this seems to be the case with all moving magnet pre-amps (including the original B&O ones built into some Beograms).

It is worth double-checking the level of the PlayMaker, you may be able to slightly increase this above the stored level (from memory, I don't think the PlayMaker lets you store absolute full volume as the default setting).

Kind regards, Steve.

I have always found the 'Installation Guide' for the Playmaker much more useful than the user manual, and it could have helped with some of the setup here (in addition to MM's useful guide).  I thought that there was a copy on the site, but cannot find it.

Here's my copy of the Installation Guide (for the PM Mk1): https://www.myqnapcloud.com/smartshare/668605k6np2m2613t2uzab7z_6SdBw4l

Perhaps one of the mods could upload to the User Manual section?

EDIT: I just realised that the original question about Playmaker is a couple of years old!  Never mind, the Installation Guide could still be useful to some!

Hi Steve,

Hi Spiros,

Glad to hear that all is working!

Kind regards, Steve.