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Chromecast and BV7

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steve1977 Posted: Fri, Dec 30 2016 10:30 AM

I am thinking to connnect a Chromecast to one of the HDMI ports of my BV7. A few questions:

1) Is there some form of line-sensing when streaming audio to the chromecast (to turn on the BV)?

2) Is there a way to play audio without turning on the tv screen (just playing audio on the BV and the attached BLs)

3) What speakers will be used when streaming (my BV is in a 5.1 setup with BLs)?

4) The BV does not support CEC, does this restrict me in the use of the chromecast?

5) Would a chromecast be as good as a chromecast ultra given my BV cannot do 4k anyways?

6) Can I play multi-room to the chromecast (attached to the BV) and a BS1 and an A9 using the spotify app? Assume this would not work out of the Beomusic app directly though?

7) Any issues around audio volume control?

 

Thanks for your help!

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tournedos replied on Fri, Dec 30 2016 3:23 PM

steve1977:

4) The BV does not support CEC, does this restrict me in the use of the chromecast?

This answers at least some of your questions. Without CEC control, the BV won't be able to control the Chromecast in any way, and the Chromecast won't be able to control the BV in any way. You will need your B&O remote to control the BV and you smartphone or tablet to control the CC.

I guess you can use picture mute to just listen to audio, but the Chromecast video model will still always remain a video source.

Currently I don't think there's any difference other than 4K and the price between regular CC and the Ultra version. Ultra is a later product, so it might of course receive new exclusive features in the future.

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Chrimecast audio supports multi room. Connect one of those to the audio input, and use picture mute Smile

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steve1977 replied on Fri, Dec 30 2016 5:46 PM

Thanks for your quick replies. Sounds like this is the perfect setup for me.

I am using a ML/NL converter connected to the BV7, so can "steer" turn on the BV7 directly from the app. Can I "map" a HDMI port directly to an audio only function and then start the music directly from the beomusic app. Basically a picture-muted DVD or so?

Also, any thoughts on my question on audio control and also whether I can steer directly from the beomusic app?

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Fl_ip replied on Fri, Dec 30 2016 6:40 PM
Then connect an Chromecast Audio to the Line-in on the ML/NL, then you can use A.AUX as the source. The BV7 will switch on in audio mode.
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steve1977 replied on Fri, Dec 30 2016 6:46 PM

I already have an airport express connected to the line-in. I'd like to stream either airplay or googlecast audio, so I cannot connect the googlecast audio to it (or does it work with a y-cable?). Also even in my current setup, the BV does not turn on automatically upon airplaying to the line-in, but only if I select the line-in from the beomusic app.

An audio-only selection over HDMI not possible?

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steve1977 replied on Sat, Dec 31 2016 5:25 AM

I have another idea. I could connect a Chromecast Audio to the BV directly instead of to the ML/NL. Any thoughts on this? Does the BV7 have a toslink connection or would I need to use line-in? In either case, could this audio-in (toslink or line-in) be mapped to an audio only channel?

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The coax-in on a BV7 was meant to be used for sound from a video source.

Therefore it can only be mapped to a video source command/button.

But it is possible to use it as you describe - you will need a toslink to coax converter.

And - depending on your setup/options programming - when you use the AV command before the initial command, you will get sound with a muted screen ---- alternatively P.Mute.

Using an analog-in (via scartadapter) won't make a difference there.

 

Maybe you should consider replacing the AirPort Express with a Playmaker.

This way you would get AirPlay and the line-in (with autosense), that you need for the Chromecast Audio.

 

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steve1977 replied on Sat, Dec 31 2016 9:39 AM
thanks.

playmaker is one idea. the ml/ml would still not auto-sense though?

i checked the manual and the bv7 has a spdif. i could use a toslink-to-minitoslink cable to connect the CCA to this port. assume this would work without adapter? and could be mapped as audio source?
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steve1977:
thanks.

playmaker is one idea. the ml/ml would still not auto-sense though?

That would only work for speakers directly connected to the NL/ML Converter anyway - and that is not what you want....as far as I have understood.

The question(s) about the digital-in on the BV I already answered in my post above.

(SPDIF is the format for transmitting sound - coax and toslink are two different ways of connecting devices)

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steve1977 replied on Sat, Dec 31 2016 12:18 PM

Got it, very clear. Looks like Playmaker may be the most suitable way. Thanks.

From a sounds quality perspective, would the toslink solution above be advantageous as I would use the DAC of the BV instead of the DAC of the CCA (which I'd assume won't be great)?

A.DVD would indeed be ideal, but I doubt I can configure the Beomusic app this way to activate A.DVD?

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The DAC inside the CCA actually is not that bad - even rather inexpensive DAC's are much better today than years ago.

Here is a link to a review of the CCA (analog and digital connected):

http://archimago.blogspot.de/2016/02/measurements-google-chromecast-audio.html

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steve1977 replied on Sun, Feb 26 2017 2:52 AM
would the answer be different for a BV5? does the BV5 have a proper audio-in that i can connect the chromecast to? or some audio-in that is meant to be used for video (as what you describe for the bv7)?
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steve1977 replied on Sun, Mar 12 2017 4:29 AM
any thoughts? particular on my first question.
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Pulling up an old thread as I am still trying to find a way to make it work.

I thought I understood above, but cannot recap after re-reading it.

CCA feels like the right way to go and I'd prefer to connect it directly to the BV7 and the BV5.

What I have not understood yet: for audio-only, what is the best port of the BV7 and BV5 to connect the CCA to? Any port that can be mapped to audio or only possible to map to video and then work-around with p.mute?

Thanks again for your help. Making my B&O house chromecast-compatible is what I am up to now.

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You can not 'map anything to audio' on a BV5/7.

If you use one of the coax/SPDIF-in's on the BV5/7, you have a video source with no picture.

This is how a pre-BSys4 tv works!

You can however, access it 'audiowise' using the A/V command before the mapped button on the remote.

Or when the tv is already on, using P.Mute dependent on the version of your Beo4.

N.B. You'll need a simple optical to coax digital converter for connecting the CCA.

P.S. You could instead use one of the analog-ins on the tv, but I'd recomment the digital connection.

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@Steve1977

Please note:

If you have linkrooms and you want to access the sound of the CCA there, you must connect it the analog way to the BV's.

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