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Sandyb:While the form factor of the LG's and the new B&O screens is interesting, I'm increasingly thinking what a shame it is that the video processing won't likely be as good as the Sony (is even the Panasonic) high end panels.... The A1 reviews (and last years ZD9) remind me of how much top quality processing can make a difference......when I spent some time with the ZD9 last year, the upscaling was a good deal better than the LG E6......anyway, OLED screens will still be very welcome from B&O....
The A1 reviews (and last years ZD9) remind me of how much top quality processing can make a difference......when I spent some time with the ZD9 last year, the upscaling was a good deal better than the LG E6......anyway, OLED screens will still be very welcome from B&O....
B&O could supply their own picture processing algorithms or even the source code to LG in order to have them implemented in the future TVs.
Regards,
Jean
BeoNut since '75
Who knows, but not sure it matters in the end.......they'll struggle to match what Sony seem to be have done with their high end TVs, with the Extreme X1 processor chipset.....i suspect in the end it doesn't matter, i'm guessing many customers will be glad to have a B&O TV available with the latest specs (OLED +HDR)......i was only observing that, from my experience looking at the LG E6 and the SONY ZD9, the SONY did a much better job upscaling HD content ( didn't spend enough time to compare its motion capabilities)...and the A1 shares the same high end video processing..........
Good afternoon,
Was the release date of the new TVs disclosed at the dealer's conference last week ?
Last week a dealer told me there will be a B&O oled available early 2018. Most probably presented fall 2017. The programmers are extremely busy with the new shape sound system hence no resources for a new TV. Will be a very new design with a full glass front, speakers behind, large display, 65 at least. Pricing area 10,000$. The new one will come at the expense of the avant model. It will disappear. Beovision 14 will stay. Although he was quite firm in his description he said officially it is still speculation (like with the new iPhone).
Pocket:Last week a dealer told me there will be a B&O oled available early 2018. Most probably presented fall 2017. The programmers are extremely busy with the new shape sound system hence no resources for a new TV. Will be a very new design with a full glass front, speakers behind, large display, 65 at least. Pricing area 10,000$. The new one will come at the expense of the avant model. It will disappear. Beovision 14 will stay. Although he was quite firm in his description he said officially it is still speculation (like with the new iPhone).
Sandyb:I also heard that they will be large screens, with those wanting less than 65 having to choose one of the LCD models
Pocket: Last week a dealer told me there will be a B&O oled available early 2018. Most probably presented fall 2017.
Last week a dealer told me there will be a B&O oled available early 2018. Most probably presented fall 2017.
I was told that dealers get to see the OLED B&O TVs this May - did that not happen? If not, there's no way they can speculate on the design. Sorry, it's just speculation if they are claiming they know what it looks like!
moxxey:I was told that dealers get to see the OLED B&O TVs this May - did that not happen? If not, there's no way they can speculate on the design. Sorry, it's just speculation if they are claiming they know what it looks like!
given they have just come back, i doubt many will reveal much just yet........that said, i was led to believe a while ago that the sizes would start quite big (65), and also not to expect anything for quite a while.......the timing bit makes sense to me, especially given the recent software issues etc ......
@BeoGreg
There is a tv - and there is a BV
BeoGreg:From my little birdy and is cousin the sheep of Struer, the new Oled should come in 55" and 65" (like the LOEWE LG based oled). It has to, 65" is too big for me. Remember the Beocenter AV5 ? The new speaker system should look like that. A lot of glass, two motorised speakers on both sides. Now it's getting interesting !
It has to, 65" is too big for me.
Remember the Beocenter AV5 ? The new speaker system should look like that.
A lot of glass, two motorised speakers on both sides. Now it's getting interesting !
I was a big fan of the AV5 so great news for the upcoming OLED if it is similar. 55" is the maximum size screen I could have in my new property too. My BV9 has now gone, replaced with a 43" Sony (4K/HDR) as an interim set for the next couple of years while I completely renovate the house making it B&O ready for what I hope, will be a good choice of linked products available to buy and install a couple of years from now.
B&O products are V1-32, BS2, H95, E8 and an Essence remote.11-46 now replaced with Sony A90J 65”, Sony HT-A9, Sony UBP-X800M2 and Sony SRS-NS7.
The birdy is right.
55" and 65" £10,000 ish for 65 +stand.
4k hdr
Motor stand and wall brackets.
netflix poss.
no 3d or atmos,maybe?
fab picture.
not android and no bugs i believe only a few birds on screen lol.
to see is to buy.....im in when its out! been wating since the new avant.
Thanks I been waiting long for those rumors.
Any idea of release date?
Beovision Harmony 77" 2nd Gen, Beolab 5, Beolab 17, Beosound 1, Beoplay M3, Beoplay Portal, Beoplay Earset, Beoliving Intelligence
My little bird, who was at the dealer meeting, didn't of course reveal too much, but said it will be unveiled in the fall.
55" & 65"
55" priced a bit above Avant 55.
If there were any concerns expressed, they were about software: with the OLED, B&O will introduce yet another software platform to their mix: WebOS.
So they'll have their newer legacy software (from BV11, Avant 1st Gen), Android (BV14, Horizon, Avant NG) and WebOS (the new OLED with LG).
I'm very interested, as the WebOS on my LG OLED has been problem-free. How the platform works in terms of integration with other B&O TVs, that remains to be seen.
KMA
B&O product history since 1991: Ridiculously long to list in a signature.
We will probably see it all together in the fall - the new BV, the BL50 and the BS Shapes (with the BS Core inside).
You'd better start saving...
MM
KMA: So they'll have their newer legacy software (from BV11, Avant 1st Gen), Android (BV14, Horizon, Avant NG) and WebOS (the new OLED with LG).
Not only that.
Will we see yet another version of the BeoRemote One - a BeoRemote Two, maybe?
Millemissen:Not only that. Will we see yet another version of the BeoRemote One - a BeoRemote Two, maybe? MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
Aussie Michael:Hopefully with island keys (they're too close together) and back lit and a record button
Regards
Kiran
Born in NL; I ride ML
Kiran:I could do with back lit keys... 👍🏻👍🏻 Regards Kiran Born in NL; I ride ML
Kiran: Aussie Michael: Hopefully with island keys (they're too close together) and back lit and a record button I could do with back lit keys... 👍🏻👍🏻
Aussie Michael: Hopefully with island keys (they're too close together) and back lit and a record button
Hopefully with island keys (they're too close together) and back lit and a record button
I could do with back lit keys... 👍🏻👍🏻
Maybe the new tv's come voicecontrolled?
And 'back lit keys' wouldn't be sufficient for finding your drinks, anyway.
Possible new key layout with a net something key I believe? Not sure about back light but looking forward to the TV.
i could do without the ugly Netflix button.....if the text was in white, maybe ok......
Bv7Mk3:The birdy is right. 55" and 65" £10,000 ish for 65 +stand. 4k hdr Motor stand and wall brackets. netflix poss. no 3d or atmos,maybe? fab picture. not android and no bugs i believe only a few birds on screen lol. to see is to buy.....im in when its out! been wating since the new avant.
elephant i also saw the W series LG Wallpaper OLED - it looks really promising
But for a lot of people they dont have the right proportioned rooms for on wall TV
But that PQ is great
Would you really think, that B&O should sacrifice the usual elegant/sophisticated placement options for the sake of someone wanting to have a piece of glass on the wall and a bulky speakers/electronics bar underneath.
I expect that the new BV will be a 'piece of art' and that it will surprice me - just like previous BV's have done....
....and to be more than a black hole in the wall, when it is off.
Millemissen:Would you really think, that B&O should sacrifice the usual elegant/sophisticated placement options for the sake of someone wanting to have a piece of glass on the wall and a bulky speakers/electronics bar underneath. I expect that the new BV will be a 'piece of art' and that it will surprice me - just like previous BV's have done.... ....and to be more than a black hole in the wall, when it is off. MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
Hope that the new BV OLED set will be backward compatible with the prevoius B&O devices / ML system (BL5 , BV5, BS9000 etc), so that it can act as a new B&O master system. With an expected timeless B&O design for the new OLED TV, this will be a perfect BV-upgrade for the one of us that still want to keep our existing, timeless BL and BS devices!
BV Eclipse 65, BV5, BS Core, BL5, BL8000, BS9000, Beolit 12, A1, A2, P2, H8, H9i, H7, E8
elephant: Millemissen: Would you really think, that B&O should sacrifice the usual elegant/sophisticated placement options for the sake of someone wanting to have a piece of glass on the wall and a bulky speakers/electronics bar underneath. I expect that the new BV will be a 'piece of art' and that it will surprice me - just like previous BV's have done.... ....and to be more than a black hole in the wall, when it is off. MM There is a tv - and there is a BV. No MM I am hoping that B&O's creativity will surprise us I think the thinnest of the technology will enable the to do something fantastic ... after all this: (below) has been our vision since 1966 !
Millemissen: Would you really think, that B&O should sacrifice the usual elegant/sophisticated placement options for the sake of someone wanting to have a piece of glass on the wall and a bulky speakers/electronics bar underneath. I expect that the new BV will be a 'piece of art' and that it will surprice me - just like previous BV's have done.... ....and to be more than a black hole in the wall, when it is off. MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
There is a tv - and there is a BV.
No MM
I am hoping that B&O's creativity will surprise us
I think the thinnest of the technology will enable the to do something fantastic ... after all this: (below) has been our vision since 1966 !
Ah, Montag relaxing at home with his wife and her friends.
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
Jeff:Ah, Montag relaxing at home with his wife and her friends. Jeff Beovirus victim, it's gotten to be too much to list!
vlohjr1: The new oleds are call 'eclipse'
The new oleds are call 'eclipse'
It looks that you are right: beovision eclipse