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The movement compensation of the picture is still not perfect on the .115 software release. A moving object often gets a halo, side effects with subtitles in combination with a moving background, etc.
BartS: The movement compensation of the picture is still not perfect on the .115 software release. A moving object often gets a halo, side effects with subtitles in combination with a moving background, etc.
I have had three 2015 Avants (all returned) and currently own the new Avant NG, I have had this issue on all of them. I have had many discussion with B&O about it. I thought this would be a much bigger issue with owners but strangely enough not many people notice or can see it. The problem is caused by B&O's picture processing within the picture modes. You will notice the issue is evident when using Adaptive or Movie picture mode but if you change to Game of Monitor picture mode (which turns off B&O's processing), the problem is not there. The result is an image that doesn't feel quite as rich but the haloing on movement is not there. I wish they would fix this!
Solidsnake:I have had three 2015 Avants (all returned) and currently own the new Avant NG, I have had this issue on all of them. I have had many discussion with B&O about it. I thought this would be a much bigger issue with owners but strangely enough not many people notice or can see it. The problem is caused by B&O's picture processing within the picture modes. You will notice the issue is evident when using Adaptive or Movie picture mode but if you change to Game of Monitor picture mode (which turns off B&O's processing), the problem is not there. The result is an image that doesn't feel quite as rich but the haloing on movement is not there. I wish they would fix this!
Beolab 50, Beolab 8000 x 2, Beolab 4000 x 2, BeoSound Core, BeoSound 9000, BeoSound Century, BeoLit 15, BeoPlay A1, BeoPlay P2, BeoPlay H9 3rd Gen, BeoPlay H6, EarSet 3i, BeoVision Eclipse Gen 2 55", BeoPlay V1-40, BeoCom 6000 and so much else :)
The effects are much less visible on my Beovision 7 that is 10 years old (!!!). Current Sony TV's in a lower price range do not have these effects. I must say that B&O improved the processing when you compare it to the first software versions, but still there is a lot to gain.
Can you connect the H9 to the BV14 trough BT ?
I having trouble with stable connection. After switching of H9 I have to manual connect (pair) everytime to the BV14...
sq2002: Can you connect the H9 to the BV14 trough BT ? I having trouble with stable connection. After switching of H9 I have to manual connect (pair) everytime to the BV14...
Apart from that I only get a limited volume even with both on full volume I have put in a query to Band & Olufsen
There is something wrong with the BV14 in terms of its audio output by Bluetooth....i tried a number of BT headphones and even a BT speaker, and the volume output curve is awful, almost unusable.......not a headphone issue, its a BV14 issue......
Sandyb: There is something wrong with the BV14 in terms of its audio output by Bluetooth....i tried a number of BT headphones and even a BT speaker, and the volume output curve is awful, almost unusable.......not a headphone issue, its a BV14 issue......
yea I gathered that as the headphones are great off the iPhone or iPad on BT. I was a bit surprised when I asked the question when the top man at B&O for the north east didn't know about the issue. He's put the question to B&O UK.
As a BTW. I am awaiting delivery of my third BV14!
Sandyb:You as well...what's wrong with the BV14 aside from software issues?
I've lost track of what's software and what's hardware now. Despite three updates we've made little progress on stability and there is an issue with WISA. When the second one was installed it refused to see my BL18's so they had to hard wire them.
Given that and the stability issues, Denmark said replace it! Who knows what number three will bring.
BeoVision Haermony 65"...BeoLab 28 Anthracite....BeoLab 17 as REAR....BV10-32....BC6-26....Beosound 9000....Beosound 1 New York edt....Beogram 4002....Beoplay Emerge....Beoplay M5....Beoplay M3....Beoremote Halo....BeoRemote One BT....Beo6....Beo4....Beo4 Cinema....BeoLink 7000....Serene....H95 Black LTD....H9i Rimowa....6 x H6....Form 1....U70...
No problems at all with the BV11-46
Beovision 11-55, BeoPlay V1 40, Beosound 9000, Beolab 8000's and 3 Beocom 5's...
koning:No problems at all with the BV11-46
Livingroom: BL3, BL11, BV11-46 Kitchen: Beosound 1 GVA, Beocom 2 Bathroom: M3 Homeoffice: M3, Beocom 2 Library: Beosound Emerge, Beocom 6000 Bedroom: M5, Essence remote Travel: Beoplay E8 2.0, Beoplay EQ, Beoplay Earset
Hiort: koning: No problems at all with the BV11-46 Agree. Had zero problems.
koning: No problems at all with the BV11-46
Agree. Had zero problems.
Yes, but the BV11 is not UHD so that would not meet my requirements. I did consider it but had to reject it. Also I'm not sure if the Oak panels will fit the BV11.
phirstpro: Also I'm not sure if the Oak panels will fit the BV11.
Also I'm not sure if the Oak panels will fit the BV11.
They do. But they only do 40" and 55" of course.
....depending on, whether the frames are clipped on or held by magnets.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Millemissen:....depending on, whether the frames are clipped on or held by magnets. MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
Duels: Millemissen: ....depending on, whether the frames are clipped on or held by magnets. MM There is a tv - and there is a BV. You are right. Thanks MM.
Millemissen: ....depending on, whether the frames are clipped on or held by magnets. MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
There is a tv - and there is a BV.
You are right. Thanks MM.
Mine are held by magnets on the BV14-55.
Anyone got an update on H9 working with BV14 ?
or...is any BT headphone (stable connection) working with the BV 14 ??
mr_anders_son:New sw out now! 0.5.2.4 Says only bug fixes
0.5.2.4
Says only bug fixes
... and support for the BeoLab 50 (see the BeoLab 50 thread)
Does anyone know when the B&O App will also work on the BV14, Horizon and Avant NG? It is about time....
September says my dealer....
Thanks! Let's hope it is not delayed again.
I purchased a Beovision 14 55" last December. I am now on my third set and STILL experiencing issues. The main problem is the remote, freezing, not scrolling or just packing up. This on top of messages popping up on the screen while trying to watch the tv such as "android TV not working" plus lots of other ones that I cant remember.
I am awaiting a FURTHER upgrade on the software, but I feel I am losing all confidence in B & O.
I have been a loyal customer for many many years, purchasing TVs, Hi Fi, and also specing B & Os in my cars. I know I am paying extra for the brand and the so called quality, but I feel my loyalty has been streched to braking point.
For a premium brand, this is not acceptable.
thing is, it is unlikely the TV set itself.....there may be specifics to your situation, but mine was changed at their suggestion, when i knew it was all software related, and lo and behold the new set had the same issues......just because B&O tell your dealer they will exchange the set, doesn't mean that is addressing the issue....
i switched mine eventually to an Avant 55 (not Android), and outside of the look of the BV14 which i love, i'm much happier.
The sound is more punchy, and i think picture doesn't suffer from the same motion blurring which hadn't been fixed on the 14 up to a couple of months ago when i did my exchange. I do not miss the native apps from the Android TV platform, as my Avant is fed from a matrix with a bunch of sources, but i can see of course how some want an all in one solution
The remote issues are a B&O thing, the Android pop-ups are an Android thing - the Sony forums have similar complaints.
Much as my 14 got much more stable and much of the initially missing functionality from October through to June, i took the opportunity of swapping for an ex-dsiplay Avant 55 and some money back, just to make life easier. Happy with the Avant 55, though doesn't compare to my 12-65 plasma.
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I own a BV 14-55 since May. The TV runs together with a pair of BeoLab 18 & 19 subw. I must admit i have nothing to criticize. Impressive appearance when off like no other. Amazing picture quality. Haven't experienced any issues with too dark or artefacts. The sound is just amazing. The google android software which is included is crap. No Netflix, no Amazon prime. when I used TuneIn I get program suggestions and advertisements all the time. very annoying. however I don't use google I use Apple TV new generation and a sky receiver. Both fully controllable with the Beoremote. Don't need anything else. Don't know why all this harsh criticism here. Works perfect in my home and I like a lot !!!
Pocket: The google android software which is included is crap...
The google android software which is included is crap...
You have just pinpointed the issue in one casual sentence.
The image quality is truly superb, as is the sound, as you say. This is what B&O excel at - tweaking what someone else has produced. It's the economy of scale, they can't produce their own panels as it's not viable financially - and B&O have always worked this really, really well.
What worries me is the new TV's will be (basically) LG panels, LG chassis, with B&O speakers in a box attached...
Bang & Olufsen seem to have almost given up on TV's to concentrate on Loudspeakers.... and Play.
Am I wrong? Please correct me!
9 LEE: What worries me is the new TV's will be (basically) LG panels, LG chassis, with B&O speakers in a box attached...
As far as I'm aware, B&O (and Loewe, actually) are simply specifying only 'A-Grade' panels from LG, the same as always.
However, there is to be none of the 'tweaking and B&O magic' behind the panel. It's all LG processing.
The only thing which is B&O is the 'cabinet' and the sound then.. I hope I'm wrong, but I've been told this a few times now.
Lee
frank50:I purchased a Beovision 14 55" last December. I am now on my third set and STILL experiencing issues. The main problem is the remote, freezing, not scrolling or just packing up. This on top of messages popping up on the screen while trying to watch the tv such as "android TV not working" plus lots of other ones that I cant remember. I am awaiting a FURTHER upgrade on the software, but I feel I am losing all confidence in B & O. I have been a loyal customer for many many years, purchasing TVs, Hi Fi, and also specing B & Os in my cars. I know I am paying extra for the brand and the so called quality, but I feel my loyalty has been streched to braking point. For a premium brand, this is not acceptable.
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
9 LEE: As far as I'm aware, B&O (and Loewe, actually) are simply specifying only 'A-Grade' panels from LG, the same as always. However, there is to be none of the 'tweaking and B&O magic' behind the panel. It's all LG processing. The only thing which is B&O is the 'cabinet' and the sound then.. I hope I'm wrong, but I've been told this a few times now. Lee
People tend to talk 'picture' (LG) and 'sound' (B&O).
But as we all know a great part of what we like of a BeoVision is - and has always been - the way we control it, the way we interact with picture and sound sources and the settings on the set.
The user interface the on screen and the physical remote (as well as the app) have always been something unique with the BeoVisions.
Apart from the question of leaving the picture part to LG (and the pros and cons of this) I find it much more interesting how we are going to control this conglomerate of the two worlds (LG and B&O).
Will we recognize the user interface, will we have a BeoRemote 'as we are used to'? How will this tv interact with the other (NL) products from B&O, that we have at home? What about PUC-controlling of 3rd party devices?
This is a software-thing - and something that LG surely won't and can't provide. This has to come from B&O!
The new BV must come not just a combination of a LG picture part and a B&O sound part - it must provide the feeling of being a BeoVision, when we use it in our daily life.
I wonder how they are going to solve this? I am very excided not just to see and hear the BV Eclipse, but to use it, navigate, interact with it, live with it.
Millemissen:People tend to talk 'picture' (LG) and 'sound' (B&O). But as we all know a great part of what we like of a BeoVision is - and has always been - the way we control it, the way we interact with picture and sound sources and the settings on the set. The user interface the on screen and the physical remote (as well as the app) have always been something unique with the BeoVisions. Apart from the question of leaving the picture part to LG (and the pros and cons of this) I find it much more interesting how we are going to control this conglomerate of the two worlds (LG and B&O). Will we recognize the user interface, will we have a BeoRemote 'as we are used to'? How will this tv interact with the other (NL) products from B&O, that we have at home? What about PUC-controlling of 3rd party devices? This is a software-thing - and something that LG surely won't and can't provide. This has to come from B&O! The new BV must come not just a combination of a LG picture part and a B&O sound part - it must provide the feeling of being a BeoVision, when we use it in our daily life. I wonder how they are going to solve this? I am very excided not just to see and hear the BV Eclipse, but to use it, navigate, interact with it, live with it. MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
mr_anders_son:All I can say it is a LG set with B&O shelf...notining more or less...sadly...
KMA
B&O product history since 1991: Ridiculously long to list in a signature.
mr_anders_son:All I can say it is a LG set with B&O shelf...notining more or less...sadly... BeoVision 14-55 oak...BeoLab 8002 as FRONT....BeoLab 4000 as REAR....BL19 SUB copper 90's edt....BV5 2xHDMI....BV7-32 MK3....BC6-26....Beosound 9000....BeoRemote One BT....Beo6....Beo4....Beo4 Cinema....BeoLink 7000....Serene....H8....H6 90´s Rose Gold edt....Form 1....U70...A2 Black Copper Special Edt