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BeoSound 2 and BeoPlay M5 can´t play the same source together (sound drop out)

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JoeyFerry RTFM [@Lee5] Posted: Sat, Jan 28 2017 11:35 PM

Hi,

I hope someone can help me with one rather annoying issue…

I just bought the fantastic BeoSound 2 – and totally in love with it, I couldn’t resist to buy the little sister BeoPlay M5. Both are amazing products and play superior as stand-alone units!

But I would like to play the same source (for example Spotify) on both products at the same time (Multiroom). This should be possible via the BeoMusic App and the plus-symbol (+) where you can move the experience from one product to the other, and vice versa. The volume should then be possible to adjust individual or simultaneous.

However, it causes heavily sound drops out from one of the product. The “master-product” plays fine but the “slave” only hacks, completely impossible to listen to.

I have spent tons of time to sort this out, but without success so far:

Factory reset of both products, firmware upgrades, reinstallation of all apps (even Spotify), quality check of my network and tested both with iOS and Android.

Do you have any tips?

 

 

Best Regards from Sweden

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riverstyx replied on Sun, Jan 29 2017 3:12 AM

How are the two products connected to your network - wired or by WiFi?

Does this happen for all sources, or just for Spotify?

Are you using Spotify connect, or are you streaming Spotify to one of the products via Bluetooth?

Using the beosetup app, for both products, go to settings->beolink->sound synchronisation and let me know what values are shown.

Martin.

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JoeyFerry replied on Sun, Jan 29 2017 3:58 AM

Hi Martin,

Thanks for your interest!

riverstyx:
How are the two products connected to your network - wired or by WiFi?

Both by WiFi.

riverstyx:
Does this happen for all sources, or just for Spotify?

All sources.

riverstyx:
Are you using Spotify connect, or are you streaming Spotify to one of the products via Bluetooth?

Spotify Connect and and/or Google Cast (never Bluetooth).

riverstyx:
Using the beosetup app, for both products, go to settings->beolink->sound synchronisation and let me know what values are shown.

Cable 50

Wi-Fi 1000

(default values on both products)

 

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Best Regards,

Joey

 

 

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egges replied on Sun, Jan 29 2017 7:34 AM

maybe you'll find the issue in the service report, created by the BeoTool app.

Wohnzimmer: BeoVision Avant 55", BeoLab 11, 12-2 und 12-3 für 5.1-Sound +  appleTV 4K und Philips BluRay-Player; BeoSound 2, BeoSound 3000 (fast nur noch Deko)////Schlafzimmer: BeoEssence MkII, BeoLab 4000 + Samsung 46"-TV////Büro: BLC NL/ML, BeoSound 35, Thorens TD320MkII, Samsung 32"-TV, WesternDigital 4TB-Server////Bad: BeoLab 2000; alles CAT7 verkabelt////Küche: M5 (drahtlos) plus diverse apple-Geräte (imac, macbook, ipads, iphones, timecapsule, watch)

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JoeyFerry replied on Sun, Jan 29 2017 9:03 AM

Hi Egges,

Thanks for the tips regarding BeoTool App!

egges:
maybe you'll find the issue in the service report,

Status green for everything except Services (yellow).

 

But under the title RELATIONS:

Integration role: Not integrated

Connected to: Both connected to each other

 

Not integrated, can this be the cause?

Please, help me out.

 

Best Regards

 

Joey

 

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elephant replied on Sun, Jan 29 2017 9:21 AM
Attached is what my dissimilar setup's BeoTool output looks like.

I think services being yellow is a problem - think that is the music subscription services.

My output isn't showing the relation information- perhaps it's not relevant in my situation.

I hope this helps - good luck.

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Is your Spotify account activated on both devices - same goes for Google Cast?

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV

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egges replied on Sun, Jan 29 2017 10:06 AM

my services are always yellow. the reason that shows up is the missing Deezer account. i don't know whether Spotify would shown up if i had Deezer connected. but that shouldn't cause interruptions.

"not integrated" shouldn't bother you, as far as i know it's a thing when two devices like an TV and an Audio source have to be linked together. 

DHCP should be enabled, the IP-adresses fixed, sometimes it's in the router settings that the router renew something

Wohnzimmer: BeoVision Avant 55", BeoLab 11, 12-2 und 12-3 für 5.1-Sound +  appleTV 4K und Philips BluRay-Player; BeoSound 2, BeoSound 3000 (fast nur noch Deko)////Schlafzimmer: BeoEssence MkII, BeoLab 4000 + Samsung 46"-TV////Büro: BLC NL/ML, BeoSound 35, Thorens TD320MkII, Samsung 32"-TV, WesternDigital 4TB-Server////Bad: BeoLab 2000; alles CAT7 verkabelt////Küche: M5 (drahtlos) plus diverse apple-Geräte (imac, macbook, ipads, iphones, timecapsule, watch)

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JoeyFerry replied on Sun, Jan 29 2017 11:38 AM

Hi MM,

Millemissen:
Is your Spotify account activated on both devices - same goes for Google Cast?

Yes. But still not working...

 

Best Regards

Joey

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JoeyFerry replied on Sun, Jan 29 2017 11:41 AM

Hi Egges,

egges:
DHCP should be enabled,

DHCP is enabled on both units. Still not working...

 

Best Regards

Joey

 

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JoeyFerry replied on Sun, Jan 29 2017 1:02 PM

JoeyFerry:

Hi MM,

Millemissen:
Is your Spotify account activated on both devices - same goes for Google Cast?

Yes. But still not working...

 

Best Regards

Joey

It seems like Google Cast sometimes fall out from the units. I´m directed to the BeoSetup App to confirm the terms of condition but there is no button to accept. Other times they are all fine in the menus.

But I think there must be a more technical issue causing the bad sound experience.

All help is very much appreciated!!

 

Best Regards

Joey

 

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riverstyx replied on Sun, Jan 29 2017 1:43 PM

Hi Joey,

Some more questions & suggestions:

Are both devices connected to the same WiFi access point or do you have more than one in the house?

Are you using any WiFi repeaters / 'signal boosters'?

If your WiFi is dual band (ie supports both 2.4GHz and 5GHz) are both devices connected on the same band?

You could try changing the "Network delay, Wifi (msec)" value from 1000 to 2000 - this really shouldn't be necessary but if it does improve things it probably points further towards the issue being with your WiFi.

What router / WiFi access point are you using?

Martin.

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I would try to upgrade or reconfigure your router. 95% of dropouts are on the router side of things. As for your Spotify problem - you won't be able to join Spotify via the plus button in the BeoMusic app as Spotify isn't a inherited distributable source via Network due to Spotify limitations of single account distribution. The proper way to trick the system or use it in a multi-room-multi-play setup is using the Spotify connect feature in the Spotify app itself. All other sources in the BeoMusic app can be distributed except Airplay and Spotify. AirPlay is being worked on Big Smile.

Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there 

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JoeyFerry replied on Sun, Jan 29 2017 3:05 PM

Hi Martin,

Thanks for all your help!!

riverstyx:
Are both devices connected to the same WiFi access point

Yes

riverstyx:
do you have more than one in the house?

No

riverstyx:
Are you using any WiFi repeaters / 'signal boosters'?

No

riverstyx:
If your WiFi is dual band (ie supports both 2.4GHz and 5GHz) are both devices connected on the same band?

I don´t know... How can I found out? ;-)

riverstyx:
You could try changing the "Network delay, Wifi (msec)" value from 1000 to 2000 - this really shouldn't be necessary but if it does improve things it probably points further towards the issue being with your WiFi.

I have tried that now. No difference. Still the same problem

riverstyx:
What router / WiFi access point are you using?

A brand new one (Fiber into the house, everything else in the house works perfect, like Netflix, online gaming etc).

I will call my service provider to hear what they have to say (my IT knowledge is not the best...)

 

Best Regards

Joey

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JoeyFerry replied on Sun, Jan 29 2017 3:22 PM

Hello BeoMegaMan (cool name!),

BeoMegaMan:
I would try to upgrade or reconfigure your router. 95% of dropouts are on the router side of things

I will call my service provide and ask them to assist me. Thanks for the tips!

BeoMegaMan:
As for your Spotify problem - you won't be able to join Spotify via the plus button in the BeoMusic app as Spotify isn't a inherited distributable source via Network due to Spotify limitations of single account distribution. The proper way to trick the system or use it in a multi-room-multi-play setup is using the Spotify connect feature in the Spotify app itself. All other sources in the BeoMusic app can be distributed except Airplay and Spotify. AirPlay is being worked on Big Smile.

But in the store they demonstrated this function and it worked very well. And that was the reason why a bought an extra speaker...

If I use the Spotify App to start up the music and then transfer it to one of my speakers via the Spotify App everything plays perfect (one speaker). If I then open the BeoMusic App and press the + symbol the other speaker starts up but with extremely dropouts. Going back to the Spotify App and viewing status for sound distribution it says "LivingRoom + Kitchen". Do you mean it should be possible to choose both speakers direct via the Spotify App? I have not figured out how because there is only possible to choose one at the time (that is why I must use the BeoMusic App).

 

Best Regards

Joey

 

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Hi JoeyFerry,

I can, and always have been able to, add Spotify multi room using the beomusic app. I use it for essence mk2 and a6. So that should work, you are right.

As mentioned, pretty much all problems I have had like this lead back to the router, not the products. It's the frustration of not knowing, I've been there and can empathise!

I had spent time going into great detail about the set up. But in the end, mine seems to fix now (if I need to) by turning all off at mains, and turning back on, router first then essence then a6 then NAS drive - and it all connects up nicely. I have a 1 year old virgin media UK, netgear fibre optic router, if that helps. Although, it has been very stable for the last 3-4 months.

Good luck!

Steve
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JoeyFerry:

riverstyx:
If your WiFi is dual band (ie supports both 2.4GHz and 5GHz) are both devices connected on the same band?

I don´t know... How can I found out? ;-)

it's shown in the BeoTool app here: Network>Wireless

Wohnzimmer: BeoVision Avant 55", BeoLab 11, 12-2 und 12-3 für 5.1-Sound +  appleTV 4K und Philips BluRay-Player; BeoSound 2, BeoSound 3000 (fast nur noch Deko)////Schlafzimmer: BeoEssence MkII, BeoLab 4000 + Samsung 46"-TV////Büro: BLC NL/ML, BeoSound 35, Thorens TD320MkII, Samsung 32"-TV, WesternDigital 4TB-Server////Bad: BeoLab 2000; alles CAT7 verkabelt////Küche: M5 (drahtlos) plus diverse apple-Geräte (imac, macbook, ipads, iphones, timecapsule, watch)

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JoeyFerry replied on Sun, Jan 29 2017 4:38 PM

Hi again Egges,

I talked to my service provider. The router is not dual, it´s 2.4GHz. They have made a new configuration of the router and locked both speakers to the same frequency (20MHz) just to be sure that they won´t grab difference distribution channels.

They where very helpful (as everyone here at the forum) - but it did´t solved the problem... 

 

Best Regards

Joey

 

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JoeyFerry replied on Sun, Jan 29 2017 5:34 PM

Hi Steve,

Stevegee:
mine seems to fix now (if I need to) by turning all off at mains, and turning back on, router first then essence then a6 then NAS drive - and it all connects up nicely.

Thanks for your sympathy!

I have also tried your tips, but without success... It took a while for the products to reconnect to the network but now both are visible again in all Apps.

But still impossible to play Spotify trough both speaker (one only give a miserable sound).

Any more suggestions?

Because I´m in love with those products and they will be absolute suburb when they start working as meant to be.

 

Best Regards,

Joey

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The Beosound 2 is my favourite B&O release of late. I will be getting one soon. You need to get that working so you are happy!

I don't have much else to suggest, as my multi room has always worked pretty well for me, just the odd moment when I have had to have a play. Is your dealer nearby to investigate?

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I have just tested on my 2.4 wifi and works fine, so it's not the software or app (on iPad Air). I think it is your wifi/router as suggested - but I don't know why, sorry. My essence is hardwired and a6 wifi.

Took a quick pic:

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egges replied on Sun, Jan 29 2017 9:18 PM

hi joey, 

reading that your router is no dual-band one leads me to the consideration that it is an older one. so maybe the router itself is the problem? could happen as with many things in digital issues?!?

 

anyway: good luck

Wohnzimmer: BeoVision Avant 55", BeoLab 11, 12-2 und 12-3 für 5.1-Sound +  appleTV 4K und Philips BluRay-Player; BeoSound 2, BeoSound 3000 (fast nur noch Deko)////Schlafzimmer: BeoEssence MkII, BeoLab 4000 + Samsung 46"-TV////Büro: BLC NL/ML, BeoSound 35, Thorens TD320MkII, Samsung 32"-TV, WesternDigital 4TB-Server////Bad: BeoLab 2000; alles CAT7 verkabelt////Küche: M5 (drahtlos) plus diverse apple-Geräte (imac, macbook, ipads, iphones, timecapsule, watch)

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JoeyFerry replied on Tue, Jan 31 2017 7:32 PM

FINALLY!

 

Everything works absolute perfect!!

 

The solution was quit simple, a new router (ASUS RT-AC66U).

 

Once again, thank you all for your engagement and the tips I received via this forum!

 

If you should have similar problem as described above; Use the App ”WiFi Analyser” and check if you have a lot of disturbance from other networks in your neighbourhood.

 

Best Regards

 

Joey

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