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Beo 6 to control Amazon fire tv

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bdm01 Posted: Sat, Feb 18 2017 7:33 PM

Hope someone can help me here

Current set up is beosystem 3 connected to beovision 4 65"

sources connected to beosystem, sky + HD, Apple TV, PS3 via Mykonos, all working fine

everythink is controlled by beo6 that I have programmed myself

so today I purchased Amazon fire TV stick

anyone know how I can programme beo 6 to control ?

regards

richard

 

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riverstyx replied on Sun, Feb 19 2017 11:59 PM

You can't control the fire TV 'stick' by IR as it only support bluetooth remote.

If you purchase the fire TV 'box' instead of the stick, you can plug in a USB IR receiver and it can then be controlled (either by PUC, or directly by the beo6).

Kind regards,

Martin.

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bdm01 replied on Mon, Feb 20 2017 10:15 AM
Thanks for the reply

Wasn't sure if some way using a flirc device and a y adapter cable you could get it to work.

Then use a puc ir bud on the flirc device

Only need some basic commands to control a bit like Apple TV

Can someone give some thought to my idea ?

I have ordered a y USB cable and a flirc so will try

Richard

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riverstyx:

You can't control the fire TV 'stick' by IR as it only support bluetooth remote.

If you purchase the fire TV 'box' instead of the stick, you can plug in a USB IR receiver and it can then be controlled (either by PUC, or directly by the beo6).

Kind regards,

Martin.

Where does one get the USB IR receiver?

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bdm01 replied on Mon, Feb 20 2017 12:40 PM

This was the device I was thinking

https://www.amazon.co.uk/FLIRC-Universal-Control-Receiver-Raspberry/dp/B01NBRBWS6/ref=pd_sim_147_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=53T0R9J32ZX3BWE0DDV1

You can train the codes it uses ?

Connect to the firetv stick with a "Y" usb cable to pass power and commands to the firetv stick

Richard

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stefan replied on Mon, Feb 20 2017 3:44 PM

As Martin already said, you can`t control your stick with the Flirc, because there is no USB socket. You`ll need the fire tv.

When connected to the Flirc USB-IR receiver, you can control fire tv via PUC from your Beovision, using a BL1000, Beo4,5,6, and even from linkrooms.

You can order Flirc directly :https://flirc.tv/more/flirc-usb.

Stefan

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bdm01 replied on Tue, Feb 21 2017 9:34 AM
Thanks Stefan

So I can move the stick to another room and buy the fire TV box no problem

You can programme the flirc to accept commands no problem

My TV beovision 4 with a beosystem 3 has no puc code for fire TV

I have a beo 6 that will control it but again fire TV not in the codes

What's the best way - use another file and modify ?

Help would be appreciated

Richard
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bdm01 replied on Thu, Feb 23 2017 7:44 PM
Hope someone can help

Does anyone know which puc to use on a beo6 used to control a flirc connected to a fire TV box
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bdm01 replied on Sat, Feb 25 2017 5:35 PM
Hi

Is there anybody using a beo6 to control an Amazon Fire TV box with a FLIRC USB controller plugged into it

Any help appreciated

Richard
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stefan replied on Sat, Feb 25 2017 7:14 PM

Quite simple.

you need a Beovision with puc, puc ir cable, Beo6, config. tool with the puc included you want to use (or build your own Beo6 puc).

a fire tv, laptop with flirc program.

- select an av socket to connect your fire tv

- select a puc

- connect the ir cable to the correspondind ir socket and fasten ir transmitter on the flirc

- progeam the flirc as described in the flirc program with help of your Beo6 and the puc.

- plug the flirc into the fire tv usb socket.

- fasten ir transmitter on the flirc

- select the video source you have choosen for the av socket connected to the fire tv.

- control your fire tv withe Beo4/5/6, even from linkrooms (you will need an additional HDMI - composite converter to get audio/video on your link tvs.

- have fun.

Stefan

 

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bdm01 replied on Sun, Feb 26 2017 8:24 AM
Stefan

Thanks

Pretty much got all that

Using a beosystem3 connected to beovision4

I have Sky HD, PS3 (with Nyko controller), and AppleTV all connected and work perfectly

Using config tool 6.84 to programme beo6

And obviously the beo6 is programmed to control sources above

There is no file for fire TV in cf6.84

So does anyone have a config

Or, what is the best one to use to start to modify ?

Or can you start one from scratch ? If so how

Regards

Richard
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Weebyx replied on Sun, Feb 26 2017 10:52 AM

bdm01:
Stefan

 

 

Thanks

 

Pretty much got all that

 

Using a beosystem3 connected to beovision4

 

I have Sky HD, PS3 (with Nyko controller), and AppleTV all connected and work perfectly

 

Using config tool 6.84 to programme beo6

 

And obviously the beo6 is programmed to control sources above

 

There is no file for fire TV in cf6.84

 

So does anyone have a config

 

Or, what is the best one to use to start to modify ?

 

Or can you start one from scratch ? If so how

 

 

Regards

 

Richard

 

Since it seems that the AppleTV Remote can control flirc...... You can try the Apple Remote PUC in the config tool.

/Weebyx

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stefan replied on Sun, Feb 26 2017 5:26 PM

As said before you dont control fire tv with Beo4/5/6, because the Beoremotes are ir and fire tv is bluetooth, similiar to your ps3. 

Your Beo6 will control the flirc device via ir puc - you can use the apple tv puc, although the fire tv has more buttons, i think - and the flirc will control the fire tv. I'm using the puc for a sagem box with BV7/BS3 setup - similiar to your setup, and everything is working fine.

Stefan

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bdm01 replied on Tue, Feb 28 2017 7:36 PM
Stefan,

Which Sagem PUC file did you use please as there are about 20 in the Config S/W 6.84

Regards

Richard
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stefan replied on Tue, Feb 28 2017 8:47 PM

I'm using the Sagem HD PVR101 puc to control the Flirc.

Stefan

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Jack replied on Tue, May 30 2017 7:48 PM

Hi there;

 

i have a beo6 too and would like to control my amazon fire Box.

What i need for it; only the FLIRC USB DEvice in the Amazon box or anything else?

How to program my beo6 for the flirc?!?

 

Thanks a lot for help

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bdm01 replied on Wed, May 31 2017 9:17 AM

Jack,

Let me try to help. 

My beovision4 is controlled by a beosystem3

The Amazon fire TV box is an hdmi input to the beosystem3

so what I have is the flirc is plugged into the USB port on the fire TV box there is a b&o ir bud stuck to the front of the flirc and connected to the beosystem 3

The beo 6 is fooled into thinking the flirc is a Sagem HD PVR101 (change names in the screen view)

When you programme the flirc you have to do it using the beo 6 via the beosystem 3 with the ir bud stuck to the flirc

I have to say it wasn't the easiest and took a few tries to make it work but worth it

Hope this helps, feel free to ask more questions if needed

Richard

 

 

 

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kallasr replied on Wed, May 31 2017 12:34 PM

HOW TO: Control Amazon FireTV with ANY PUC or STB-C entry

http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/23795/196403.aspx

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Jack replied on Wed, May 31 2017 8:27 PM

Hi;

 

thank you bdm01 and kallsar (Ralf, bin auch aus Deutschland=) for your help!

I don´t have a beovision TV, only a Samsung; so i need the PUC/STB device too?

If this is so, which is a good one, perhaps link...

What to do with the PUC?

Think it is sufficient to connect the FLIRC USB to my amazon fire box and train my beo6 remote...

 

Thank you =)

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bdm01 replied on Fri, Jun 2 2017 7:30 AM

Hi

As far as I know you can't train a beo6. You have to programme it via the puc config software ?

also I was also under the impression that b&o remotes transmitted on a different frequency to others ?

Does your beo6 control any devices at the moment ?

regards Richard

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TWG replied on Fri, Jun 2 2017 8:02 AM

With Beo Config Tool for Beo 5 and 6 both remotes can send every possible infrared code.

You'll need pronto codes and convert them or an Ir code learner like the Lintronic TT238 box (which I use). With the Lintronic box I can copy every infrared remote I have at home to finally just use a Beo 5 for everything.

Lintronic TT238 + Beo 5 / 6 is the best remote package for me compared with Logitech Harmony etc.

The only better solution would be RTI or Crestron remotes.

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Jack replied on Sun, Jun 11 2017 8:33 PM

Thank you both for your help and info bdm01 and TWG!

 

Got now my FLIRC USB, but what is the best remote to chose for the amazon fire box (11 buttons) from the ct tool?

The Apple remote only has 7 buttons (in the configuration tool and original) but the amazon ha 11(12 is for the micro)? Which remote you chose in the ct for train with the flirc?

 

Flirc USB works with the PS4 too, i.e. as bluray remote...

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Hello TWG,

If I buy Lintronic TT238 would it be possible that I use it only to learn/convert codes from various IR remotes into XML for Beo5 remote?

And then to replace AC, TV, AppleTV and other remotes with Beo5?

Thanks & cheers!

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TWG replied on Sun, Oct 15 2017 7:25 AM

@Jack:
Could you solve the amazon fire tv box problem with ct tool? Do you use the Flirc USB with the PS4 or was this just a guess?

 

@AnalagPlanet:
Yes, at least with the old ones (Hardware 5.1...) it was possible and that's what I did with it. :-) Michael from Lintronic helped me when I got problems!

The software for learning has a bug where it renames the last learned command to "new function" when you copy another "new function". That means a little more effort but it works. I've read from other people that they simply edited the XML file after learning the commands. I can't comment on that as I have no programming knowledge. :)

Do NOT install the latest config tool from B&O because they remove the possibility of mixing B&O and non B&O commands on the hardware buttons.

 

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Thank you for the hint TWG. :)

I bookmarked the CT 5.12 as it was a referent version in the Configuration Guide published here on Beoworld Forum... ...so I'll try with that one. 

In essence, I just bought Beo5 the other day on eBay as it was cheap and I like it as a small tech-sculpture more than I really badly need its function. Still, I have no remote for my Beocenter 8500 so I will use it for that and then I thought well, I might also program basic commands of my LG TV and AC on/off command in the living room. Just to add a bit more "magic" to it.

Let's see how that goes once I receive it. :)

 

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