ARCHIVED FORUM -- March 2012 to February 2022READ ONLY FORUM
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Interesting read for those of us, who are impatiently waiting for the next generation BV's.
http://www.avsforum.com/2017-lg-oled-tv-improvements/
According to current informations/rumours these will be based on the E Series from LG.
It seems that it might be worth waiting for the 2017 models.
According to this site
http://4k.com/news/lg-shipping-out-its-new-2017-oled-super-uhd-4k-hdr-tvs-a-bit-early-here-are-their-prices-18698/
the 55 inch E7 (LG-tv) will start shipping in May, as an example.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Millemissen: There is a tv - and there is a BV.
StUrrock: Millemissen: There is a tv - and there is a BV. There is a tv - and there is a BV that is constantly awaiting software updates to work. No worries if we can't make a BV that works. Let's make a promise that LG can now manufacture a BV that works even if the models prior to the LG BV models dont!
There is a tv - and there is a BV.
There is a tv - and there is a BV that is constantly awaiting software updates to work.
No worries if we can't make a BV that works.
Let's make a promise that LG can now manufacture a BV that works even if the models prior to the LG BV models dont!
@StUrrock
Even if this is offtopic - my BV's work fine!
The problems are with the Android-based BV's.
We can't know, if the LG/BV's will 'work' --- we can only hope.
Millemissen: The problems are with the Android-based BV's.
Maybe I should change my signature to:
There is a BV - and there is a wannaBV.
The 55" E version is already selling here at a reduced price of $2799 in the US. That price is before taxes. I am hoping for a 65" W version that has Bang and Olufsen sound electronics and center speaker with a B&O design. Also it should be Web OS and not a version of Android. I am really looking for a wow factor design and few software problems.
A review has been posted a few days ago about the LG W7:
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/lg-oled-w7-signature-series
Good reading,
Jean
jvezina:A review has been posted a few days ago about the LG W7: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/lg-oled-w7-signature-series Good reading, Jean
linder: The 55" E version is already selling here at a reduced price of $2799 in the US. That price is before taxes. I am hoping for a 65" W version that has Bang and Olufsen sound electronics and center speaker with a B&O design. Also it should be Web OS and not a version of Android. I am really looking for a wow factor design and few software problems.
That 55" LG would be the 2016 model.
According to the linked article the 2017 models however, have improved.
So, let us hope, that the 2017 (E series) version will be used in the LG/BV's.
As usual you can always get a good deal on 'last years models' right before the new arrives - from almost any tv manufactorer...
....if that is what you are after.
jvezina: A review has been posted a few days ago about the LG W7: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/lg-oled-w7-signature-series Good reading, Jean
Sure - but maybe more for those, who are interested in buying an LG tv than for those, interested in B&O.
beotex: Second, since we have BV14, Horizon, and Avant NG running Android, and older sets running something else, how likely is it B&O supports yet another user interface with the LG sets? Is Android temporary or is it here to stay?
Second, since we have BV14, Horizon, and Avant NG running Android, and older sets running something else, how likely is it B&O supports yet another user interface with the LG sets? Is Android temporary or is it here to stay?
The "LG based" Beovisions will be running WebOS i.e LGs own operating system.
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thats probably a good thing......will be interesting if the range of smart apps is the same as for LG's own TVs or if we get a more restricted list....
Thanks for the information MM! Checking to see if I misread the articles.... Are the articles essentially saying, "Hey.... All of these models are great, and the difference between the $8000 model & $2500 model isn't monumental (with respect to PQ). Buy what you can afford; you can't go wrong."
B&O will get my money sometime this year for a music system, but I'm fortunate enough to be able to wait another year or two for the right display. It sounds like LG has developed a lot of credibility in the display space as a thought-leader, so I'm super excited to see the results of this collaborative effort. 2017 & 2018 has to be an exciting year for B&O. Stabilizing the android based sets & rolling out full functionality has got to be on the horizon (no pun intended), and the prospect of a new line more aligned with current/future specs seems more likely than not. :: holding breath ::
I really, really hope that B&O will make more impact to the design for coming Beovisions than providing the soundbar part of package.
The article that MM linked to says that LG themselves will only sell the new screens with a bulky connection-box including built-in speakers, and only during 2018 provide a smaller connectionbox.
Hi Hiort -- I'll reread the article. I thought that design (thinnest display through separated soundbar) was unique to the most expensive model, and the other models were built more traditionally.
Sure, that is about the W series - not about all others.
Hiort:I really, really hope that B&O will make more impact to the design for coming Beovisions than providing the soundbar part of package. The article that MM linked to says that LG themselves will only sell the new screens with a bulky connection-box including built-in speakers, and only during 2018 provide a smaller connectionbox.
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
Chris Townsend: If they've got any sense, they'll repeat the 12-65. A brilliant display, repacked by B&O in a modified case, and then have an almost identical sound bar/box like LG has. Albeit with a load of Geoff's magic thrown in.
If they've got any sense, they'll repeat the 12-65.
A brilliant display, repacked by B&O in a modified case, and then have an almost identical sound bar/box like LG has. Albeit with a load of Geoff's magic thrown in.
The BV 12-65 had a center speaker built-in - in order to have stereo (or 3.0 or more), you had to add external speakers to that.
This would add a lot of costs to get a functional tv in regards to sound.
Personally I doubt, that B&O will make a tv without built-in speakers to work on it's own - additional speakers would be a plus, but not a necessity.
It has been so for quite a while now!
Everyone wants something else - nobody knows, what we will get.
given the tv is most likely based on the E6/7, why will atmos even be an issue.....surely it will just have a bunch of integrated speaker in the same way that current BV's do, albeit in a different form factor perhaps.....but i doubt the speakers will be a separate unit.......
lord knows, though cant quite see why LG would sanction / give away their signature design to third parties........nor why B&O would want to go down the sound bar / connection box route in this way........but i guess they could find a way of making it work.........the ribbon cable that cant be hidden in a wall, dont like that at all.........anyway, i don't see myself upgrading my 12-65 for a while, one day of course when 4K content is a bit more widespread, but that's a way off for me.....
With the W7 they (=LG) wanted to show how thin a tv can be.
And they had to put the electronic somewhere else, externally - and the speakers too.
The result is a thin tv screen, that nobody really needs - and a ridiculous bulky piece of soundbar, that you can't escape....
....and that everybody complains about - especially those who 'happen to' have a decent sound system, before buying the 'thinny'.
I don't expect B&O to make this mistake!
Besides, they (=B&O) have a lot of speakers, that they can offer people, who want to improve the sound beyond an integrated and well matched 2.0/3.0 sound experience.
As much as you want the OLED-BV to be a reb&oadget W7, every rumour says that they will be built on the E7 series.
I predict in 3 years time when we got transparent wall paper TV's, it will be very hard to motivate the customer to buy a B&O stamped branded TV made buy LG, with 3x the price tag on it, i cant see B&O overcome that huge task , and they can not survive on just selling speakers and audio either, so i hope they got a plan for this otherwise i predict they are dead as a brand in just a few years time.
Beolab:My estimation, when in 3 years time when we got transparent wall paper TV's it will be very hard to motivate the customer to buy a B&O stamped branded TV made buy LG with 3x the price tag on it, i cant see B&O over come that huge task , and they can not survive on just selling speakers and audio either, so i hope they got a plan for this othervise i predict they are dead as a brand in just a few years time.
Beolab:.....so i hope they got a plan for this othervise i predict they are dead as a brand in just a few years time.
Although I am looking forward to the new Beovision by LG, I think I am going to ignore the rumors at least for awhile. I like the LG W7 because I do plan on doing a wall mount regardless of what is announced. Whatever the Beovision features and design will be, it will have to be really stunning.
I understand that LG is going to manufacture the new Beovisions using some B&O electronics. If true, does that mean these new Beovision will be NL compatible. Will I be able to use a NL/ML converter? Can an LG dealer repair these Beovision TVs? The reason I ask the repair question is that in North America, there are a limited number of dealers and repair shops.
It will also be interesting to see how the new Beovisions will be marketed. Will it be Bang and Olufsen by LG on the label?
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