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Future Sounds - 2017

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Millemissen
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Uhm - this was refering to the 'april' product.

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Simonbeo:

" .....can't say.  All this not being able to say anything about the first launch in a few weeks is driving me up the wall, so to speak !! Erm..

Up the wall. So to Speak (er )

No clues there then Lee!

This is how my post should have looke like (can't edit on my iPad/Safari, sorry):

Not a speaker, maybe!

Refered to as a 'concept' ----- maybe something that becomes a product, when other things come together, then.

Something to do with multiroom ;-)

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StKong replied on Fri, Mar 24 2017 10:49 AM
9 LEE:

What can I safely say for now?  Well, one item is a concept - which is also a product. Totally caught me by surprise, and when you see it (and it needs to be seen and experienced) you'll have that lightbulb "yes, of course, why didn't I think of that?!" moment.

Sound transmission through the power chords eliminating the need for Ethernet or wifi?
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StKong:

Sound transmission through the power chords eliminating the need for Ethernet or wifi?

That would be using the Powerline technology - not fancy enough for us ;-)))

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StKong replied on Fri, Mar 24 2017 11:51 AM
Millemissen:

That would be using the Powerline technology - not fancy enough for us ;-)))

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Would still be outrageously fancy to see it integrated into one universal chord.
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Barry Santini:
The BL90 may not 'look' like previous Jensen/Davis designs.

If you look at the BL19, various new Beoplay models, you are seeing B&Os new design language.

Such fun!!

And 9Lee wrote previously:

'The second product isn't being launched until August !!!  So, I'm going to have to keep my mouth shut and sit on my typing fingers for months 😩  It will divide opinion as I have a feeling it's not what you'll 'expect' - but after spending a couple of days around the product, and having a demonstration, it's DEFINITELY good enough to wear the Bang & Olufsen name....  '

These guys were involved in the process of making the BL90 and the BS Moment and the 'wheely':

http://www.noto.design/

Have a look at the grafically teaser for the BL90 and compare that to the left/button figure on the Future Sounds invitation.

 

 

 

 

 


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StKong replied on Fri, Mar 24 2017 1:14 PM
Millemissen:

Have a look at the grafically teaser for the BL90 and compare that to the left/button figure on the Future Sounds invitation

I visited the site, but I don't see the graphic. Could you do a screenshot?

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???

The graphics mentioned is in my post and in the invitation for the Future Sounds, that 9 LEE posted initially in the thread (the 'shape' in the left corner at the bottom.).

As for design language, I find similarities - but maybe thats just me ;-)

Of course there is no mentioning on the noto design site - how could there!

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Duels replied on Fri, Mar 24 2017 3:36 PM
I've changed my mind. I reckon the august offering is to be a single unit, (i.e. not a pair of speakers) high end speaker utilising BL90 technology.
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BeoGreg replied on Fri, Mar 24 2017 3:41 PM
StKong:

Sound transmission through the power chords eliminating the need for Ethernet or wifi?

Now, that would be absolutely Fantastic (for me the no wifi guy).
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rfrichg replied on Fri, Mar 24 2017 8:29 PM

I also read something in the line. Could it be panel speakers like Beolab 3000 in a morden look with multi room functionality.
Great if they could be used in a surround setup and multi room in on speaker. looking forward to what it will be.

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Interesting!

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elephant replied on Fri, Mar 24 2017 10:25 PM
I hope they are improving our listening experience

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A range of cubes for the average bachelor's home,modelled on Struer's famous testing chamber, would be great.

😆

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Jeff replied on Fri, Mar 24 2017 11:54 PM

elephant:
I hope they are improving our listening experience

 

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A range of cubes for the average bachelor's home,modelled on Struer's famous testing chamber, would be great.

 

 

😆

Kind of a Silence Of The Lamb thing? It puts the lotion on its skin, and if it screams no one can hear! Crying

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BeoGreg:

Now, that would be absolutely Fantastic (for me the no wifi guy).

So like a WISA-NET? Then
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elephant replied on Sat, Mar 25 2017 4:04 AM
Jeff:

Kind of a Silence Of The Lamb thing? It puts the lotion on its skin, and if it screams no one can hear!

Jeff

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Not at all !

My hair is standing on end like Beaker's from the Muppets !!

I was taking Lee's hint to the extreme Smile

When we see it we will say "now why did I not think it"

Besides which the Struer chamber is quintessential B&O search for perfection.

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StKong replied on Sat, Mar 25 2017 7:34 AM
Aussie Michael:

So like a WISA-NET? Then

Yes! If it were my company that would be the road I'd be pursuing, and I would patent it heavily.

BeoLink for the new millenium.
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Aussie Michael:
BeoGreg:

Now, that would be absolutely Fantastic (for me the no wifi guy).

So like a WISA-NET? Then

WiSa is basicly wifi - so nothing for 'the no wifi guy'!

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StKong:
Aussie Michael:

So like a WISA-NET? Then

Yes! If it were my company that would be the road I'd be pursuing, and I would patent it heavily.

BeoLink for the new millenium.

WHY?

We already have NL to connect devices - that you can run over wireless or wired over longer distances (and soon maybe even from a remote location).

And we have WPL (WiSA) for the speaker connection, which is working in multichannel setups.

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StKong replied on Sat, Mar 25 2017 11:38 AM
Millemissen:

WHY?

We already have NL to connect devices - that you can run over wireless or wired over longer distances (and soon maybe even from a remote location).

And we have WPL (WiSA) for the speaker connection, which is working in multichannel setups.

MM

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I do not mean to replace NL. Rather, what I outline would extend network link into a seemless everyday application - just by plugging the products into the electrical socket.

Without the need for Ethernet in places were wifi is not an option.

Somebody is bound to do it at some point.
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That would be ethernet over power aka Powerline.

And it would require a speaker with a built-in web-client (and a web-server on the sender side).

Otherweise, how would the speaker know which sound-signal to pick from all those floating on the electric installation?

Not an easy task.

Or how would you modulate/add a specific sound signal (e.g. the left surround channel from tv-x) to a 'normal' power supply and tell the speaker to pick exactly that one.

MM

 

 

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StKong replied on Sat, Mar 25 2017 12:30 PM
Millemissen:

That would be ethernet over power aka Powerline.

And it would require a speaker with a built-in web-client (and a web-server on the sender side).

Otherweise, how would the speaker know which sound-signal to pick from all those floating on the electric installation?

Not an easy task.

Or how would you modulate/add a specific sound signal (e.g. the left surround channel from tv-x) to a 'normal' power supply and tell the speaker to pick exactly that one.

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I am sure the brilliant engineers would work that out - and setup and distribution would be done and determined via an app.

In this day and age it is possible.
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So - my last post to this...in order not to hijack the thread ;-)

Sure, it would be possible, but at which costs?

And when there already are solutions, why spend limited man, brain, money power at B&O to do this?

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BeoGreg replied on Sat, Mar 25 2017 1:54 PM
My likes would be a power cord with ethernet inside. So just plug your Beosound 2 and you have access to web music without wifi or phone. One wire only.
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StKong replied on Sat, Mar 25 2017 2:13 PM
Millemissen:

So - my last post to this...in order not to hijack the thread ;-)

Sure, it would be possible, but at which costs?

And when there already are solutions, why spend limited man, brain, money power at B&O to do this?

MM

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I don't know about costs.

Ease-of-use and integration are Bang & Olufsen hallmarks — and essentially what sets the brand apart from the competition.

Or to put it in other terms:

Why spend time and resources developing one remote to control all units when three or four different ones will also do the job? Unsure
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TWG replied on Sat, Mar 25 2017 3:53 PM

StKong:

I don't know about costs.

 

Ease-of-use and integration are Bang & Olufsen hallmarks — and essentially what sets the brand apart from the competition.


Sorry, but that's no hallmark of Bang & Olufsen, except you call the procedure "n.music + go + 4" on a Beo 4 "easy" or "intuitive" to access A.Aux on the Beomaster 5 when it is in Slave mode. ;-)

Let's just wait and see what Lee and B&O will show us.

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Jeff replied on Sat, Mar 25 2017 9:36 PM

elephant:
Jeff:

 

Kind of a Silence Of The Lamb thing? It puts the lotion on its skin, and if it screams no one can hear!

 

Jeff

 

Beovirus victim, it's gotten to be too much to list!

 

 

Not at all !

 

My hair is standing on end like Beaker's from the Muppets !!

 

 

I was taking Lee's hint to the extreme Smile

 

 

When we see it we will say "now why did I not think it"

 

 

Besides which the Struer chamber is quintessential B&O search for perfection.

I was thinking of an anechoic chamber and it's potential uses outside of audio! Gee, you try and think outside the box as it were and look where it gets you.

Beaker, always loved Beaker. The world's most abused lab assistant.

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Noto replied on Tue, Mar 28 2017 9:16 AM

Dear Millemissen,

 

I guess we talked to each other at the Struer Museum last week? Sitting next to Lee for the dinner the night before and our chat made me curious enough to subscribe to beoworld and following your guesses. Wink

Best,
André

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badgersurf replied on Tue, Mar 28 2017 10:01 AM

A good article in Pocket-lint at the end mentions that they were at the press days and looking forward to the reveal.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/140624-bang-and-olufsen-at-92-a-closer-look-at-how-the-luxury-brand-found-its-success

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Jeff:
I was thinking of an anechoic chamber and it's potential uses outside of audio!

Remember that our measurement room is only anechoic inside the computer - not in real life. We gate the measurements before the reflections come in, so any potential uses would have to be virtual...

Cheers

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StKong replied on Tue, Mar 28 2017 10:15 AM
Geoff Martin:

Remember that our measurement room is only anechoic inside the computer - not in real life. We gate the measurements before the reflections come in, so any potential uses would have to be virtual...

Cheers

-geoff

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TWG replied on Tue, Mar 28 2017 10:18 AM

Noto:

Dear Millemissen,

 

I guess we talked to each other at the Struer Museum last week? Sitting next to Lee for the dinner the night before and our chat made me curious enough to subscribe to beoworld and following your guesses. Wink

Best,
André


Welcome to Beoworld, André.  Smile

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Noto:

Dear Millemissen,

 

I guess we talked to each other at the Struer Museum last week? Sitting next to Lee for the dinner the night before and our chat made me curious enough to subscribe to beoworld and following your guesses. Wink

Best, 
André

Tach André,

sure we did - was a nice, but a bit too short chat (you had other things to do there, I know).

Nice to meet someone (of many), who is involved in designing the current B&O products and to experience your enthusiasm for the brand.

I see, that TWG already welcomed you on Beoworld ;-) - 

I hope you will find the time to read and maybe also give some comments here, where it would fit in.

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Noto replied on Tue, Mar 28 2017 1:32 PM

Thanks for the warm welcome. I will try my best to comment...but for sure I will listen attentively.

Best,
André 

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Peter Pan replied on Tue, Mar 28 2017 2:23 PM



Super nice.  Lets have a Party !!!  A woman thing.

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Peter Pan:

  Lets have a Party !!!  A woman thing.

Might be - depending on your take on design.

I guess you are more for the strong, steady take of the Penta-obelisk ;-)

 

Anyway - that is a study from one of the 'twelve up and coming industrial design students from Aalto University,

who expressed their vision of sound and created a selection of loudspeakers that explore form, function and materiality' In 2016.


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tph replied on Tue, Mar 28 2017 4:32 PM

Peter Pan:

<< BeoLab S >>

Super nice.  Lets have a Party !!!  A woman thing.

Cheers! As the designer of those speakers, I was going for a warmer look than B&O's current offerings – but I see them more as a "nice thing" that can appeal to anyone, rather than a "woman thing" (also being a man myself) Stick out tongue

By the way: this, as well as seven other concepts, can be seen at Milan Design Week 4th–9th April. If any of you happen to be there, come by Circolo Filologico Milanese and say hi!

Back on topic now!

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Peter Pan replied on Thu, Mar 30 2017 12:35 PM

Hallo tph

Then you also have a bid on my BeoLab design

Greeting Peter Pan

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L1NO replied on Thu, Mar 30 2017 12:39 PM

Something B&O should look at : https://www.urbanears.com/ue_us_en/baggen (design is quite nice and function wise, yes!)

L1NO:

Something B&O should look at : https://www.urbanears.com/ue_us_en/baggen (design is quite nice and function wise, yes!)

Those look fantastic. I'd take that over many of the Beoplay products. Looks better and way cheaper. Hopefully sound just as good as they look.

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