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Hi has anybody done this? Is it possible to get the beo5 to learn the codes needed to controll Siemens remote controlled plug sockets and dimmers?.
Thank you in advance
Is it possible to program beo5 to controll these?. I'm sure I'd read that the bo5 canbe programmed to controll anythng you want it's just not that straight forward? Thank you in advance
If you are referring to the Delta range of products, these are controlled by radio and not infra-red so no B&O remote will be able to control these out of the box. You will need either a device to translate the infra red to radio or maybe the masterlink gateway which could work as the Siemens system seems to be EIB/KNX-based. Ask you local dealer.
regards
Tim
Hey Tom thanks for the only reply . I'm not sure what you mean by the delta range (these are lightwave rf) but you are absolutely right these are rf (radio frequency). I posted this question before I had bought them. Now that I have bought them I am very happy. You can actually buy a remote for them which just looks like a normal light switch but is battery powered so you can put it anywhere (on wall like a normal switch, on a coffee table in a drawer).
Have you used these? I'm thinking of doing another thread to let people know about my setup as I have done my entire house for the less than the price of 4 lutron single dimmers. At first I didn't like the idea of more than one remote (hence the question about the beo5). But now I don't see it as a problem as the remote is smart and it does my entire house I can do my living room from my bedroom etc. I'm sure someone on here must have used these already?
Thanks again Tom
I also use the lightwaveRF range and they are both stylish and very reliable. Can control remotely with iPhone too plus sequences and timers.... And can buy them in B&Q in the uk!
Hi Tom
The people that make LightwaveRF (and the Seimans versions) used to do the HomeEasy range (which used to be sold in the same section at B&Q where the Seimans stuff is now), but changed the protocols from HomeEasy which really p'd me off because I use HomeEasy and one of these. (second one down for the B&O version).
It works a treat and not only controls the lights & sockets from my Beo5 but also works automatically while I'm out. It is programmed on the PC then set up in the main room. You have to be in line of sight to use the Beo5, but it controls the lights and sockets throughout my house and my garden. It is an excellent little piece of kit that you can also control from the web with a PC, Smart-phone or Tablet.
I have contacted both the manufacturers to see if they will ever make them compatible and JBMedia were very helpful and say if LightwaveRF let them have the protocols they could probably make it work. LightwaveRF sent back a generic reply saying there is no proposals to make the protocols available.
Good luck with your setup.
Stoobie
PS for anyone interested, here is an in depth review of LightwaveRF
You can buy a simple remote dimmer for lamps/ twig lights etc. They work with any remote control (TV/ Sky remote etc) so will work with the Beo5/ 6.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Powerdown-Protection-EON-oneclick-intelliplug/dp/B0075LK778/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1347266896&sr=8-15
Something like this you can program with a normal remote control. You can upload any config to the Beo5 (such as LG Aircon) and then delete all the other buttons on LG Aircon except the ON button - then just make the dimmer learn the button on the beo5 by following the instructions.
Hope this helps!
As for wall lights - they are a little different.
Beosound 8, Beotime, Beocom 4, Beo 5, Lutron Rania, MacBook 15" (Mid 2015), iPad Pro, iPhone 6S, B&O Play H3, Beolit 12, Form 2, A8 Headphones, B&O Play A1, B&O Essence
Hi stoobietoo have you ever tried using your light-manager pro with any of the jsjsdesigns or Siemens products? The reason I ask is I am getting mixed answers. The email I have received off jb media reads as follows
Hi David, as far as we know Lightwave products are technically identical to the products we sell under the brand name Coco. However, we did not have to opportunity to test it by ourselves so far. HomeEasy UK is definitely 100% identical to our product line. Certain products like the JSJS LW821 or the WiFi link from Lightwave even look identical to corresponding Coco and HomeEasy UK products. So most likely Lightwave is identical, too. This means that you can control Lightwave with the Light-Manager Pro for Bang & Olufsen. The temp module makes it possible to control things depending on the current room temperature. This is mostly used in conjunction with fans, electric blinds or sun screens. We does not support heating thermostats so far though. Best regards Your JBMedia Team Any replys appreciated thank you in advance
Hi David,
as far as we know Lightwave products are technically identical to the products we sell under the brand name Coco. However, we did not have to opportunity to test it by ourselves so far.
HomeEasy UK is definitely 100% identical to our product line. Certain products like the JSJS LW821 or the WiFi link from Lightwave even look identical to corresponding Coco and HomeEasy UK products. So most likely Lightwave is identical, too.
This means that you can control Lightwave with the Light-Manager Pro for Bang & Olufsen. The temp module makes it possible to control things depending on the current room temperature. This is mostly used in conjunction with fans, electric blinds or sun screens. We does not support heating thermostats so far though.
Best regards
Your JBMedia Team
2012martin: Hi stoobietoo have you ever tried using your light-manager pro with any of the jsjsdesigns or Siemens products? The reason I ask is I am getting mixed answers. The email I have received off jb media reads as follows Any replys appreciated thank you in advance
Hi,
I have not tried with the Lightwave stuff because although I bought some to try with my HomeEasy set up, I did not have the LightManager at the time. Lightwave was not compatible with my Pronto remote control or the HomeEasy controllers I already had. I returned thelightwave as they did not work with what I had at the time.
My Pronto was an IR and RF remote which controlled my B&O and HomeEasy directly without any "extra converters/gadgets".
I decided that I wanted a Beo5, (so my kit was all B&O) and to have similar usage I had to upgrade to the LightManager Pro and have not bought another Lightwave unit to try because of the conflicting information available. The Beo5 and LightManager are almost as flexible as my Pronto. The Pronto had all the timers built in so once you had setup the remote as you wanted it, you could set up your routines such as "holiday" scene, "evening scene" or whatever, on the Pronto without having to connect to the PC to program it. The LightManager has to be connected to the PC to make any changes from the one routine you set.
Having see your response from JBMedia, I might nip off to B&Q and buy a socket to try and just return it if it does not work. I will see how I'm fixed over the weekend and will update here if I do.
Thanks a lot stoobietoo I shall await your response before I buy a light-manager pro. That remote looks good. Of you don't mind me asking how much did it cost and from where?
It cost £500 as "new" old stock from Sevenoakes sound and Vision 3 years ago. (New they were £900). They are no longer available new as they stopped making them about 3 to 4 years ago unfortunately! Many in the world of programmable remotes were very sad at the demise of the Philips Pronto/Marantz range of controllers.
Look here for the best review I have come across for that range of remote control.
I loved designing the screens for it and getting it to automate so much. I still use it to control my curtains and blinds every night, but once I get my head round using the range of JBMedia controllers/ to their full potential I'll transfer the control to my Beo5 and the LightManger.
Fo another small project I used one of these transmitters and one of these recievers ACM-1000 from JBMedia to add a wall switch in my kitchen to control my cabinet lighting. I initially had a 3 gang switch that I replaced with a 4 gang one but did not need wiring for the 4th switch as the transmitter is battery operated and sends a signal to the wired in receiver. ( the added bonus is that they can now also be controlled by the Lightmanger/Beo5).
HI again. Which blinds do you controll? Are they somfy? That's my next project?
Yes they are Somfy (well the controller is as I have seen the Somfy computer board in the controller) and the website I linked to about the Pronto, had the somfy codes so I could download them and install them on my Pronto.
The blinds are actually venetian blinds between the glass on my double glazed sun room. You can just about see the blinds in the 3 windows on the left of the room in the picture. (looking in from the front where the 4 doors slide to open the entire width of the room) The doors/windows are made in Italy and came with the RF remote blinds built in which are an Italian make that happens to be compatible with Somfy. The remote control tilts or raises/lowers the blinds. I have programmed my Pronto remote to tilt the blinds open during the day and tilt closed at night when we are away so it looks like they are being used. Otherwise we turn off the "holiday" setting and tilt or raise and lower them as and when we like.
The instructions were all in Italian and very convoluted even after trying to translate them, but I have no doubt that the motors could be controlled by the JBMedia blind controller and the LightManger. in fact that is my next project because the control unit was placed outside by the installers and over the last 5 years water has got in and the control can get temperamental in winter. I have an electrician friend who will help me to move the unit inside and at the same time I will try to swap it for the JBMedia blind controller.
This will be a winter project when my friends workload drops.
I like your sun room a lot. I especially like blinds between glass. I've never actually seen these in the flesh I've only ever seen them on programmes like grand designs. Its something I'd definitely look into when I get my own place. Did you say you controll curtains too?.
Thank you. The blinds are brilliant because they stay clean When we first planned the sun room we were originally going for the standard UPVC double patio doors with windows on each side. We went to a Home Building show and saw these and fell in love with them and had the architect re-do the plans to fit them. The centre window/door in the picture also opens inwards on a hinge at the bottom (to be an opening vent/window to get round planning and air allowances) or slides to one side completely open. I would thoroughly recommend Sun Paradise who supplied and fitted them.
I do control my curtains with these IR tracks. I hasten to add that I did not pay anything like those prices as you used to be able to buy this in B&Q and when they stopped I was able to buy track for all my windows in the sale. I thought it was expensive at the time but when they came back on the market as "made to measure" rather than "off the peg" the price more than tripled. You will even see the Pronto HEX codes on that page which allows you to program the Beo5/6 to control them.
I have a fairly well "automated home" that, despite my B&O budget tastes and aspirations, I have managed to put together on a bottom to mid range budget. I have managed this by knowing what I wanted for my own home and like the curtain tracks for example, I knew I wanted that and I bought those in the sale about 10 years ago and stored them until we got our own place.
I also love gadgets so go to those types of sites and you often see good, simple cheaper alternatives to the top/mainstream home automation.
I'm looking at the Raspberry Pi computer for home automation at under £35 you can have a few to do what ever you can program them to do. Just got to think what I can use them for!!! First off is a home media unit to replace my BeoMedia1, which is OK but not as useful as I initially thought it would be. The Raspberry Pi runs on linux and there are some amazing free programs out there for MediaPlayers including XBMC which i tinker about with every now and then. These little computers are cheap and I'm sure I'll come up with uses. I just wish I could write computer programs
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So a quick update on Siemans & LightManager Pro (B&O)
Yesterday I bought one of these Siemans (Lightwave) RF sockets. It would not work with the LightManager Pro so I returned it and got a refund today.
I have the older HomeEasy RF sockets and they work a treat so that was a disappointment as the Siemans/Ligtwave stuff looks neat and upmarket and I still have a few sockets I'd like to update to RF control.
Ceers for the update stoobie. That is a shame as I was looking forward to that. I looked at the raspberry computers. Maplin have started to sell them now.have you thought of a use forgone yet? Cheers
2012martin: I looked at the raspberry computers. Maplin have started to sell them now.have you thought of a use forgone yet? Cheers
I looked at the raspberry computers. Maplin have started to sell them now.have you thought of a use forgone yet? Cheers
I did think about for a media centre, but at the moment I have the BeoMedia 1 and Apple ATV1 (running XBMC). I had the ATV and then got the BeoMedia, I am just disconnected the BeoMedia and gone back to the ATV because I use them mainly for watching down-loaded videos and NMusic, whilst the BeoMedia will play video it is not as good as the ATV and I have and "ancient" Beolink PC Office which I'll connect up for the NMusic side.
I'm still scratching my brain for a "project" so that I can justify getting one. The fact that it has both HDMI and Composite out attracts me because it can be used on older "scart only" TV's
I have bitten the bullet and ordered a Rasberry Pi which should arrive early next week. I'm hoping to use it with my Beovision 5 as a media server running XBMC and controlled with my Beo4 & 5 or my android phone.
Will write an update here as soon as I can :)