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Beomaster 3300 type 2957 Help Needed

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flipper62 Posted: Sun, Jun 25 2017 10:40 PM

It's been awhile, but I just got a Beomaster 3300. As usual if you get something for free there is always a catchSmile

Anyway, this receiver doesn't want to co-operate and refuses to start up.

The standby doesn't light up, instead the bars of the FM fine tuning light up. That's all.

No button responds, No stand-by light, No sound. Only FM fine tuning bars. See attached picture

Fuses are fine. I could measure 33 volts on the power capacitors

Does anyone have a clue or can point me in a direction?

Thanks,

 

Richard

 

 

 

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flipper62 replied on Wed, Jun 28 2017 4:02 PM

Anyone?

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Dillen replied on Wed, Jun 28 2017 4:14 PM

Is the 5V supply up for the processor?

Martin

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flipper62 replied on Wed, Jun 28 2017 4:34 PM

Hello Martin,

 

Nice to meet you again.

 

I"ll measure it.

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flipper62 replied on Wed, Jun 28 2017 8:17 PM

Hello Martin,

 

I could measure 5 volts on IC1.

 

 

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flipper62 replied on Wed, Jun 28 2017 8:24 PM

Hello Martin,

 

We are talking about the small voltage regulator 7805 (IC1), which supllies 5 volts. This one measures correct.

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flipper62 replied on Wed, Jun 28 2017 8:26 PM

Are the fine tuning bars an indication for a fault?  I couldn't find it anywhere.

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Dillen replied on Wed, Jun 28 2017 9:33 PM

The tuning discriminators are driven by the tuner. The other lamps are driven by the processor board.
Check all voltages to the processor board - measure the voltages on the processor board and make sure the ground connection for the board is fine.
Check if the processor is running. If not running - check the reset signal etc.

Martin 

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flipper62 replied on Wed, Jun 28 2017 10:30 PM

Martin, thanks. I understand.

I'll make all measurements asap and come back with my findings.

 

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flipper62 replied on Thu, Jun 29 2017 2:33 AM

Hello Martin,

I checked the voltages of many measuring points.

In the reset part, there is TR35 and TR36. Both are about 4,5 volts too low ( 5,5V and 0,4V instead of  9,7V and 4,7V)

The rectifier gives 24 V, which is correct.

 

If I read the diagram correct, the only parts which could be defect are the 2 resistors R92 or R93, but most probably Diode D24 as the difference in voltage is 4,5 volt. This is just the voltage to the direct linked IC1

Can you agree with my reasoning, or do you have an alternative?

 

 

 

 

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Hello Martin,

 

Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. I haven't replaced the component yet, but will inform you when done.

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Dillen replied on Sat, Jul 1 2017 9:46 AM

Check C55 and D24.

Martin 

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I measured both C55 and D24, both are correct, when desoldered.

Next I measured for R92 and R93 about  35 Ohm, should be 56K and 82K

It seems the resistors are faulty?? Although it was the last suspect.

 

any suggestions?

 

 

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Dillen replied on Tue, Jul 4 2017 6:17 AM

Resistors won't fail that way.
How did you measure them?
And how did you measure C55 and D24?

Martin

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flipper62 replied on Tue, Jul 4 2017 11:28 AM

Hello Martin,

I measured C55 and D24 by desoldering them.

C55--> 2,2uf

D24 --> OK

Resistors R92 and R93 in circuit. They start at 33 ohm, but slowly rise during measuring time. There is no fixed value. I don't get it.

 

 

 

 

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Dillen replied on Tue, Jul 4 2017 12:40 PM

Difficult to take a guess at without actually having it on the bench.
The problem may be some place completely different.

I suppose this is where the electronic repairers 3½ year long education and decades of experience has to take over.
Where are you based?

Martin

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Hello Martin,

 

I live in the Netherlands. What I want to try first is replacing both Diode and Capacitor. What I heard, the components can act different in a powered circuit. When I power it up , I get each measurement a different readout on my meter.

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Hello Martin,

 

Today I left my Beomaster at a repair shop for B&O equipment.They checked, but aftermore than 1 hour, they couldn't find the cause. I left it behind for spares.

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Dillen replied on Thu, Jul 6 2017 9:59 PM

Wrong choice of repairer.
They don't know a thing about electronics. 

Martin

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