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Justasyou: Hi svinaik. Nice tv i saw it to last week just hope no problems with it since i heard that the Loewe OLED sometimes break down. I want to buy one for my house in France to but i hesitate for now Have you made good arrangement,s just in case it does not work?
Hi svinaik.
Nice tv i saw it to last week just hope no problems with it since i heard that the Loewe OLED sometimes break down.
I want to buy one for my house in France to but i hesitate for now
Have you made good arrangement,s just in case it does not work?
@Justasyou
I will respond to your comment in other discussion that I started on the B&O / Loewe Integration. Folks on this forum get very worked up discussing anything other than good things on Eclipse :)
Link is here.
http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/28501.aspx
Puncher:Assuming for one moment that B&O read this thread and use it to help them plot their future, what message would you like them to take away?
This is why I am considering (with some trepidation) a very expensive Eclipse rather than a 3rd party OLED TV, and these points translate across the board to any other B&O product:
The reported end to the NL/ML connector has me more worried than concerns over the Eclipse at the moment. I have too much invested in older products.
BV6-26, BV7-40, BL7.4, BL3, BL5, BS9000, BC1, ES1, Beo4, BeoPort
Why not wait, then.
I am sure there are further tv’ from B&O to come - be patient....
....and enjoy your current setup.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
BeoGreg:My heart says : go for the Eclipse, it’s maybe the last tv with a B&O sign on it and does what you want (single remote/puc/stand/light control) with superb picture and sound.
My advise will be to go for Eclipse. I am not so sure on anything major that can come from B&O considering that they have no internal capabilities any more. On the picture side, there is just no comparison for the OLED screen versus the LCD / LED. OLED wins hands down. Just too much of a difference in picture quality versus LCD. HDR capabilities alone would be the justification for change.
I usually stay with my purchases for a long time and I think OLED / HDR change is sufficient to move on.
Just keep in mind the shortfalls of Eclipse and if that is something your family can adjust to.
BeoGreg:We were very happy with our MX, our 32" Avant, our 40" Bv10 so now our 46" Bv11 is the pinacle.
If you are "very happy", why the desire to change?What will the Eclipse offer over and above your existing setup?
The Eclipse has a fantastic picture, don't get me wrong, but as does my BV12-65 (but with a very different, much softer style which suits movies). My BV12-65 is flanked by BL3s and a BL11, which I doubt the Eclipse could better, plus if I got rid of this entire setup, I doubt I'd get no more than around £2K towards an Eclipse - is the 65" Eclipse a £9000 improvement?
I would be very interested in a BV14 with OLED panel.
Still haven't resolved my current issued with the Eclipse. And my dealer doesn't have a clue on when a new SW will be released to fix these issues.
My issues are:
-Micro judder and stutter with TM on and off-No DV on 60 HZ with Apple TV-Lip-sync issues with native apps-Lip-sync issues with Apple TV-Wifi and ethernet drop-outsHas anyone similar issues?
Beolab 28s Beolab 9s Beolab 12-3s Beolab 1s Beolab 6000s 2 pairs Beolab 4000s Beovision 7-55 Beovision 10-40 Beoplay V1 32 inch Beovision Avant 32 inch Beosound 1 (CD player) Beosound 3000 Beosound 5 Core Essence MKII Beoplay M5
Razlaw:Here is another online review....... https://www.pcmag.com/review/357373/bang-olufsen-beovision-eclipse
https://www.pcmag.com/review/357373/bang-olufsen-beovision-eclipse
Great review...... it's all about paying a premium for the very best sound in the end.
Graham
tigerisak:Still haven't resolved my current issued with the Eclipse. And my dealer doesn't have a clue on when a new SW will be released to fix these issues. My issues are: -Micro judder and stutter with TM on and off -No DV on 60 HZ with Apple TV -Lip-sync issues with native apps -Lip-sync issues with Apple TV -Wifi and ethernet drop-outs Has anyone similar issues?
New: Beovision Harmony, Beolab 50's, Beolab 28's, Beolab 18's, Beolab 17's, Beosound Stage & LG, Beosound 2, Beoplay M3, Beoplay A1, Beoplay Portal, Beoplay H4 gen 2, Beoplay E8 3.0
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Old: Beosound 9000 mk3, Beolab 3's, Beovision Eclipse, Beolab 1's, Beolab 2, Beovision 10-46, Overture 2300, beolab 8000's, Beolab 4000's, Beovision avant 32" etc. etc.
moxxey:If you are "very happy", why the desire to change?What will the Eclipse offer over and above your existing setup?
Razlaw:Great picture of the aluminum front! Am looking forward to seeing the Eclipse Wednesday at my dealer for the first time.
BeoNut since '75
elephant:So I think I think I am slowly inching towards a decision between: 1) one of Avant or BV14, OR 2) Eclipse, OR 3) Horizon with the intent to upgrade again in 2019, OR 4) the Almado/ LG solution at 65”, OR 5) the Almado/ Loewe solution at 77”
1) one of Avant or BV14, OR
2) Eclipse, OR
3) Horizon with the intent to upgrade again in 2019, OR
4) the Almado/ LG solution at 65”, OR
5) the Almado/ Loewe solution at 77”
Your post made me and wife smile a bit. Good luck working through the choices. On your choices list, each one is actually a good choice in their own way and hardest part for you will be to land on one.
I only had 2 choices when I started (Eclipse and Loewe +Almando) and I took my sweet time working through just 2 scenarios. You have a task cut out for you.
Best wishes for whatever decision you make.
Anyone have an inside scoop? Will there be an Eclipse 77?
boskonay: Anyone have an inside scoop? Will there be an Eclipse 77?
No scoop but I hope not with the current design (with the current speaker bar running across the screen). It will look really a bit out of place with 77 inch screen 😉
boskonay:Anyone have an inside scoop? Will there be an Eclipse 77?
Thanks guys, seems no HDR for a while as a larger Avant upgrade :(
Mikipedia:@elephant What’s your speaker setup? And do you use multiroom and all that sort of b&o stuff? Or do you want to use your tv just as a tv? And do you watch a lot of netflix and or films/movies? New: Beolab 50's, Beolab 18's, Beovision eclipse. Mikipedi4 on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0WLHXZuA1GANMzYcAn5_xg Old: Beolab 1's, beolab 2, beovision 10-46, overture 2300, beolab 8000's, beolab 4000's, beovision avant 32" etc. etc.
elephant:@Mikipedia The Loewe prices are competitive as others have found. I shall post a updated comparison table tonight. I suspect that after long detour I shall wimp out on the technology challenges and settle for a BV.
The Loewe prices are competitive as others have found.
I shall post a updated comparison table tonight.
I suspect that after long detour I shall wimp out on the technology challenges and settle for a BV.
Hi elephant
I also had a look at Loewe at a point in time before they were all OLEDs and I would go down that track only at that point where B&O no longer does an integrated television product of vision and sound. The Smart TV platform wasn't that great, didn't like the remote. Loved the screen though. I love the Bild 7.
Loewe have so many stand choices and if I chose Loewe at a point in time then i would have stayed with them but i already had B&O speakers and i foudn the integration a bit fiddly for what I was after
Be good to read your table when youve done it.
Cheers
Michael.
Eclipse Question :-)
On the LG C7 you can press one of the numeric keys and it acts as a quick access menu and you can assign to a "function"
You long press one of the buttons like 1, 2, 3 etc.
Can someone test for me please, does this work?
Aussie Michael:Eclipse Question :-) On the LG C7 you can press one of the numeric keys and it acts as a quick access menu and you can assign to a "function" You long press one of the buttons like 1, 2, 3 etc. Can someone test for me please, does this work?
I bought a Loewe 5-65 with the table stand and speaker for £4,990 today at Richer Sounds.
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
Chris Townsend:I bought a Loewe 5-65 with the table stand and speaker for £4,990 today at Richer Sounds.
Welcome to the rebel club. Let us know your experiences in the other forum that I started on the Loewe BILD and B&O integration.
svinaik:Welcome to the rebel club. Let us know your experiences in the other forum that I started on the Loewe BILD and B&O integration. http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/28501.aspx
Duels:I suspect Chris won’t be integrating any B&O with his new TV.
Maybe he does not want to ;-)
MN
Not sure there's much to integrate these days? And is it his decision or his wife's?
B&O products are V1-32, BS2, H95, E8 and an Essence remote.11-46 now replaced with Sony A90J 65”, Sony HT-A9, Sony UBP-X800M2 and Sony SRS-NS7.
BAND'OH!:Not sure there's much to integrate these days? And is it his decision or his wife's?
Razlaw:Picture was beautiful as well. Walked past approximately 50 TVs from other brands at my dealer. Did not do a detailed comparison of any of the pictures, but none of the other TVs had a pictures that jumped out at me as being vastly better than the Eclipse. Also, none of them jumped out at me as being vastly worse.
I think comparing the picture quality between similar tier TVs in a store is getting pointless (maybe it always has been?). Like the blind test mentioned earlier in this thread that proved that Phillips had a better vivid mode, you're mostly comparing the default or store display settings and not the actual PQ you'll see at home. I guess I can see the OLED vs LED differences with respect to blacks and viewing angles, but beyond that, I'm not so sure that any differences you may perceive are meaningful. I think it's similar to speakers - you don't really know until you get it home.
Years ago, I always thought the tube Avant had a dark picture and didn't understand what the fuss was about...
elephant: Seriously thank you... I liked your points of none seriously better / none seriously worse ... then add the price differentials and you have the nub of the problem ?
Seriously thank you... I liked your points of none seriously better / none seriously worse ... then add the price differentials and you have the nub of the problem ?
Struggling with the same thoughts... also a bit worried about the longevity of the OLED screens - still very new technology - will the picture still look great in 5 - 10 years? At a lower price, who cares, I'll get a new one. At a B&O price, I very much care.
elephant:@Razlaw ..... and do ? Seriously thank you... I liked your points of none seriously better / none seriously worse ... then add the price differentials and you have the nub of the problem ? BeoNut since '75