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Beosound Moment+Deezer or Aries+Tidal into Beolab?

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seethroughyou Posted: Sat, Sep 16 2017 9:35 AM
B&O recommend either the Beosound Moment+Deezer or Aries+Tidal into Beolabs. Has anyway tried either option or both options and have any advice or observations?

The Moment is £1795

The Auralic Aries if £1495

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seethroughyou replied on Sat, Sep 16 2017 9:36 AM
Of course the other option is a Beosound Core but you don't get the Moment's mood wheel...

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Duels replied on Sat, Sep 16 2017 10:15 AM
seethroughyou:

Of course the other option is a Beosound Core but you don't get the Moment's mood wheel...

That is true although there is plenty of opportunity within Spotify for example to pick music according to mood. I struggle to see the need for the Moment for streaming unless it is just the appeal of something physical from B&O.
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seethroughyou replied on Sat, Sep 16 2017 10:56 AM
I never thought of this point.

Are you saying the Moment is redundant because most streaming services offer mood based playlists?

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Duels replied on Sat, Sep 16 2017 12:32 PM
From my perspective very much so, yes. There are loads of genres and moods available some even reflecting the day if the week (i.e. Lazy Sunday afternoon tunes). I'm using Spotify almost exclusively now.
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seethroughyou replied on Sat, Sep 16 2017 5:13 PM
Ive heard that the Moment isn't as yet equipped to handle high resolution files like 24bit 96kHz but the Core is?! How strange is that, so the Core which is quarter of the price can...

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Millemissen replied on Sat, Sep 16 2017 5:25 PM

 

Specs of the BS Moment

Music formats

MP3 (all) or VBR / CBR 32 – 320kbit

WMA, both VBR and CBR 20 – 320kbit (No support for WMA Lossless)

AAC (ISO and ADTS) – 320kbit

ALAC general + 88.2, 96 kHz

PCM (WAV) general + 88.2, 96 kHz FLAC, 8–96 kHz, 16 or 24 bits, 2 channels 


What are you missing?

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seethroughyou replied on Sat, Sep 16 2017 5:33 PM
The most commonly used lossless format that's open source: FLAC.

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Martin replied on Sat, Sep 16 2017 5:38 PM

Hi

 

i have the auralic Aries with digital feed to my Beolab 5. This is the best product I ever own!!  The audio qualityis much much better than

Beosound 9000 and Beosound 5 with digital feed to labs 5. I highly recommend the Airies to everyone.

 

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seethroughyou replied on Sat, Sep 16 2017 5:42 PM
Heard others say that.

Why would an Aries be better than a Beosound as both output 1s and 0s and the digital conversion is done in the Beolab 5?

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Millemissen replied on Sat, Sep 16 2017 7:49 PM

Good question - let the guys give an answer to that ;-)

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seethroughyou replied on Sun, Sep 17 2017 8:54 AM
Been reading other forums and the consensus is that different digital machines shouldn't make a jot of difference. Someone gave the example of you accessing your accounting spreadsheet from your NAS on the other side of the world; the 1s and 0s pass through millions of switches, relays, microwave links, satellites, substations, underground cables and prone to solar flares, EM interference in switching substations etc. but your accounting spreadsheet always arrives in perfect form - you haven't dropped a 1 or 0 suddenly and sadly not gained any extra zeros. They say that digital streams are now so robust it's not worth worrying about. The only people that maintain some difference are the audiophile type. One person I read about, actually tested two different NAIM streamers (base model vs top-end) reading the same NAS and outputted them to the same DAC and couldn't tell the difference. Happy to stand corrected.

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Present: BL90, Core, BL6000, CD7000, Beogram 7000, Essence Remote.

Past: BL1, BL2, BL8000, BS9000, BL5, BC2, BS5, BV5, BV4-50, Beosystem 3, BL3, DVD1, Beoremote 4, Moment.

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