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Leif
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Leif Posted: Mon, Oct 16 2017 8:32 PM

Anyone knows Thistory of this keyboard?

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Leif replied on Mon, Oct 16 2017 8:32 PM

 

" the history "

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Leif replied on Mon, Oct 16 2017 8:33 PM

 

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sonavor replied on Mon, Oct 16 2017 9:01 PM

Hi,

By history I am assuming you are asking, in general, why the keypad turns that way?

Over the years oils from human fingers degrade the finish on those keypads to the point that the top finish looks that way. The Beogram keypad will still function like that obviously but just looks ugly. Beolover can strip and repaint those keypads to restore them. I had him do one for one of my Beogram projects recently. The one I had him restore was just starting to deteriorate. You can just mail him the keypad for the restoration if you don't want a full restoration on the Beogram.

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Dillen replied on Mon, Oct 16 2017 9:17 PM

Leif:

Anyone knows Thistory of this keyboard?

Yes

Martin

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Leif replied on Tue, Oct 17 2017 5:36 AM

Well seems like no one got the point:
The arrows for Start &Stop are pointing in opposite directions than normal.......

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Dillen replied on Tue, Oct 17 2017 6:37 AM

So I'm noone?

Martin

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sonavor replied on Tue, Oct 17 2017 6:55 AM

Ah, I see. This is a mystery. I didn't look at it closely.  An interesting specimen. Perhaps a worker on their first day in the B&O paint shop Smile.

So what is the story?  Where did you acquire it? 

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Leif replied on Tue, Oct 17 2017 1:00 PM

I don't know.

But I can't find any infomation  or pictures regarding these arrows in this direction

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Leif replied on Tue, Oct 17 2017 1:00 PM

Martin:

I never ever stated anyone noone anytime anywhere.

But I'm looking for the history behind these arrows direction

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BenSA replied on Tue, Oct 17 2017 1:53 PM

Dillen:

Leif:

Anyone knows Thistory of this keyboard?

Yes

Martin

Tell us Martin.....you keeping us in suspense lol!!!

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Dillen replied on Tue, Oct 17 2017 1:56 PM

It's a panel from what B&O called the "Record bar".

The record shop employee had a normal Beogram 4002 on his side of the shop counter.
The customer could see the Beogram through the glass counter top but couldn't touch it.
Instead a similar operating panel was fitted to the counter top, connected in parallel to the one on the Beogram itself (plus a pair of grey handheld "headphones").
This allowed the customer to sample records, jump tracks etc. and listen before deciding to buy.

Since the panel faced the customer and the Beogram faced the shop employee, the customers panel had the arrows reversed to match the
actual travel direction of the tonearm carriage.

The record bars saw a lot of use, practically all open hours with people often lining up to hear something, which explains why they
pretty much all look like this.

Martin

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BenSA replied on Tue, Oct 17 2017 1:59 PM

Dillen:

It's a panel from what B&O called the "Record bar".

The record shop employee had a normal Beogram 4002 on his side of the shop counter.
The customer could see the Beogram through the glass counter top but couldn't touch it.
Instead a similar operating panel was fitted to the counter top, connected in parallel to the one on the Beogram itself (plus a pair of grey handheld "headphones").
This allowed the customer to sample records, jump tracks etc. and listen before deciding to buy.

Since the panel faced the customer and the Beogram faced the shop employee, the customers panel had the arrows reversed to match the
actual travel direction of the tonearm carriage.

The record bars saw a lot of use, practically all open hours with people often lining up to hear something, which explains why they
pretty much all look like this.

Martin

Must have been fancy record shops to have Beograms to listen to records! Thanks for the info Martin, very interesting. 

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Leif replied on Tue, Oct 17 2017 3:07 PM

This is a situation at a record shop in Odense in late sixties

 

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Leif replied on Tue, Oct 17 2017 3:08 PM

And here is partly the Beo situation as Martin describe

Seems like more than one kind

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sonavor replied on Tue, Oct 17 2017 3:56 PM

Cool. I was hoping someone would post some pictures.

Thanks.

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Leif replied on Tue, Oct 17 2017 6:21 PM

Funny now.
Here's another one where Start is replaced by ON:

See 9:20 in the movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDeELITP9A8&feature=youtu.be&list=PLQ7T0PlkOsiNhbfQ8p1mL5t9LRGthgqdT

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Now that one is from B&O. It is the keypad for the 4002 type 5503.  The Beogram 4000 used On and Off on its keypad so I would guess that carried over to the first few series of the 4002. The later 4002 units I have use Start and Stop for those buttons.

 

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