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For someone who wants S 75s here a very nice pair, I cant afford to buy at the moment, I have no connection to, or know the seller, I just want these to go to a good Beoworld home
Collecting Vintage B&O is not a hobby, its a lifestyle.
Yeah they're lovely, but I haven't got any money and just imagining the postage and what it would do to it
B
Søren Mexico: For someone who wants S 75s here a very nice pair, I cant afford to buy at the moment, I have no connection to, or know the seller, I just want these to go to a good Beoworld home
Don't worry - be Happy
Today I picked up S80.2 speakers in mint condition with Beomaster 5000 and MCP for 50e
Brengen & Ophalen
Leslie: Today I picked up S80.2 speakers in mint condition with Beomaster 5000 and MCP for 50e
Easy enough to do over the pond near the epicentre (I would guess), it's considerably harder on our little Island - but well done anyway
enjoy
bob
Here they are... even the bottom side is scratch free and don't worrie, I put rubber feets under the speakers!
Anyone who can tell me what kind of wood these speakers are made of?
Leslie:Anyone who can tell me what kind of wood these speakers are made of?
That's rosewood (palisander) - and a beautiful grain too!
--mika
Thanks Mika, how can you tell? How many "wood types" are there for these speakers? I know rosewood now, any others?
tournedos:That's rosewood (palisander) - and a beautiful grain too!
Just amazing how they made top and sides out of one piece of veneer, just like my BM 4000 and Beovox 3702s, beautiful pieces Leslie
Now you mention it, you mean the grain as Mika says? Never looked at those details, shame shame
Leslie: Thanks Mika, how can you tell? How many "wood types" are there for these speakers? I know rosewood now, any others?
These was also made in Teak, middle brown color, and the grain is finer and not that impressive color changes as the Rose Wood, my 2 Bvox 3702 are different grains, one darker than the other, I like the other one more, its just like yours with very dark and brighter grains in a perfect pattern.
Leslie:Thanks Mika, how can you tell? How many "wood types" are there for these speakers? I know rosewood now, any others?
I have a pair in oak - that's very light. Teak is then somewhere in between and I believe the most common colour.
Being from the '80s, I guess these could still be in Brazilian rosewood, which around that time was put on the CITES list of endangered species... so producing it became illegal and you can't get it anywhere anymore. There are similar kinds of rosewood from Indonesia etc but it just doesn't quite have the rich tones.
Wow, now finally I know a lot more about these types of wood/grains. Thanks! All these knowledge on Beoworld
Here my 3702
Leslie, your S80 woofers are not the correct, original type.
Martin
Meaning?
And should it be? Sounds great though?
They have been replaced - the originals suffered from foam rot - I had a rosewood pair of these which my old dealer gave me. They had foam rot and I gave them to Tim who replaced the bass units with some cheaper bass units, much as I believe has happened here. These are they before the units were changed. It would be interesting to see what make the new drive units are. The originals are Peerless units.
Peter
I will open it Peter to see what's inside, but then again, could it have been replaced by a B&O dealer and are these speakers sound less then the original ones?
Always thought that the .2 extension means that the rings are made of rubber, like S45 and S45.2
No - the .2 in this case meant that they added binding posts to the back. Very useful too! I had the same happen to my S120.2s and replaced those drive units myself with similar Peerless units which had rubber surrounds. Very expensive mind you and I think they lost a little bass but they are still doing sterling service for a friend of mine.
This is a common finding as the alternative is to replace the surrounds which in drive units of this size is quite labour intensive. The S80s you have look wonderful though - clearly quite a bargain as well. The replacement drive units for my s120s were over £100 many years ago!!
Yeah it's called MDF or Chip board with laminated veneer
that's why it's quiet simple to have the whole unit in continuous grain / veneer but shows great attention to detail I will grant B&O that.
Above said doesn't contradict that they're stunning
tournedos: Leslie:Anyone who can tell me what kind of wood these speakers are made of? That's rosewood (palisander) - and a beautiful grain too!
Standard was usually Teak & Rosewood
but can be find in other as some people decided to strip and use different varnish to match furniture
tournedos: Leslie:Thanks Mika, how can you tell? How many "wood types" are there for these speakers? I know rosewood now, any others? I have a pair in oak - that's very light. Teak is then somewhere in between and I believe the most common colour. Being from the '80s, I guess these could still be in Brazilian rosewood, which around that time was put on the CITES list of endangered species... so producing it became illegal and you can't get it anywhere anymore. There are similar kinds of rosewood from Indonesia etc but it just doesn't quite have the rich tones.
Here in Denmark rosewood is the most common. It's quite rare to find some in teak. I guess oak is a little more common than teak.I have a pair of MC 120.2 in oak. The only problem with oak is, (IMO) that they tend to get a little 'yellowish' over the years. But some like that. I'm still trying to figure out how to 'lighten' the veneer on mine...
Steffen: But some like that. I'm still trying to figure out how to 'lighten' the veneer on mine...
But some like that. I'm still trying to figure out how to 'lighten' the veneer on mine...
It should be very easy - strip the lacquer with very fine (preferably wet/sand) sand paper and apply new layer of clear high quality lacquer
the un-easy part is to strip them of everything prior to that, but may be worth it, some penetrating wood oil may do the trick nicely and bring up the colour, but please bear in mind that they aren't axially made of real wood
Most B&O speakers are actually plywood - this is used in most good Hi-Fi speakers of the time. The finish is indeed a veneer but again that is standard. You would not want solid wood speakers as these would have problems with sound deadening and would either need to be very well seasoned or would warp. If you look in the S75, you will find a finished surface inside - a bit of oil and it is almost as good as the outside!!The oak veneer is rare and beautiful but will tend to stain easily. Don't use varnish!
Peter: Most B&O speakers are actually plywood - this is used in most good Hi-Fi speakers of the time. The finish is indeed a veneer but again that is standard. You would not want solid wood speakers as these would have problems with sound deadening and would either need to be very well seasoned or would warp. If you look in the S75, you will find a finished surface inside - a bit of oil and it is almost as good as the outside!!The oak veneer is rare and beautiful but will tend to stain easily. Don't use varnish!
I've to say for once that I've used almost exclusively Plywood in my speaker building days, but without doubt most of those I have are chipboard, see here: I've asked my "wood-maker" guy to fix those smashed casings on other S3702's and it turned out that be cheaper to build new ones, hence split into spares and parts also in other thread here.
In my experience Yacht lacquer is the best for shiny or matt finish, and to bring the colour up deep penetrating wood oil.
b