Moving Coil version of the MMC1?

I have a moving coil version of the MMC1 called the MCC that I found in Canada and I’m searching to learn more of the history on it. If anyone knows, I’d be very interested.

Sounds great both running through a SUT and a dedicated MC preamp with variable capacitance.

I might send a message to Larry Klein’s management team to see if they can get me into contact with him to see if he remembers anything about th his cartridge.

Never heard of this and surprised that a moving coil could be minaturised to fit  in an MMC1!

Please keep us posted! Martin, have you heard of this?

Amazing! Yes, do tell us more. 

Any update on this?

Sadly, no response. Any ideas where else I can search for the history on this? I was thinking maybe asking Peter Ledermann but random cartridge questions sent to Soundsmith don’t seem to go anywhere.

Saint Beogrowler:

Sadly, no response. Any ideas where else I can search for the history on this?

'Might explain why: Larry Klein 

 

Well, that is disappointing.

Being in the position he was in at Stereo Review I can imagine that Bang & Olufsen probably sent that sample cartridge for him to check out?  That means you have quite a collector item Beogrowler.  Where did you find it?

-sonavor

sonavor:

Being in the position he was in at Stereo Review I can imagine that Bang & Olufsen probably sent that sample cartridge for him to check out? That means you have quite a collector item Beogrowler. Where did you find it?

-sonavor

I found it on Canuk Audio Mart. The seller had it for years and didn't use it but because they didn't have the right preamp for it. He said, he didn't remember where he got it, maybe California, and he paid too much.

Saint Beogrowler:

I was thinking maybe asking Peter Ledermann but random cartridge questions sent to Soundsmith don’t seem to go anywhere.

I would.  And mention Larry Klein, who lived in Westchester County/NY where Soundsmith is based.  They probably knew each other.  Send him the photo as well.  Peter@sound-smith.com

 

MediaBobNY:

I would. And mention Larry Klein, who lived in Westchester County/NY where Soundsmith is based. They probably knew each other. Send him the photo as well. Peter@sound-smith.com

Thanks for the help!

Super nice response from Peter in less than 45 minutes but unfortunately this was his response,

"I was unaware that B&O did this. It seems to fly in the face of their technology being lower moving mass than MC. Interestingly, they never produced it."

He did state that he could make a special low output cartridge for my B&O table based on their high end 1/2" mount cartridges.

The quest continues,

When the Ortofon MC200 came out in 1981/2 I remember reading a review in HiFi News and Record Review that mentioned in passing that B&O had experimented with building a moving coil unit for the new Beograms (8000 and 6000). I always thought that the miniaturisation that Ortofon performed on the MC200 was indeed a collaboration with B&O, perhaps in preparation for making them for B&O. Unfortunately, I did not discuss this with Per Windfelt when I met him in the early 2000s. The exterior dimensions of the B&O MMC X series and the Ortofon MC200 are indeed, remarkably similar (I have both the MMC1 and the MC200 and am looking at them as I write).

In the end, according to the article in HFN&RR, B&O decided to go with their own design. Unfortunately, today the original MMC manufacturing tools are quite literally on the scrapheap of history. Peter Lederman (and Tonar in Germany) are the only ones that can make them today (but only after reverse-engineering the original design).