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I'm looking to buy a pair of Beolab 6000 Speakers. The seller tells me that the leads are fitted with 8 pin Din connectors. I want to use these with my Beomaster 901 tuner/amplifier, but it has what I think are 2 pin Din sockets.
Firstly, are the speakers and amp compatible, and is it easy to connect the leads if I bought a couple of 2 pin Din's? I'm not that good at soldering!
As a supplementary question, what was the range of speakers that would have been bought with Beomaster back in the day?
Thanks
The BeoLab 6000’s are active speakers - meaning that they each have an amplifier built-in.
They need an unpowered, a line signal - the 901 has only ordinary L/R speaker outputs....they are from another generation.
What you’d need for an amp/tuner like the 901 is a set of passive speakers.
Any set will do - but not any set will be ‘good’.
If you are looking for a set from B&O, please have a look on the product archive pages on Beoworld.
I am sure there is someone on Beoworld with experience of the BeoMaster 901, who could tell you which speakers are best suited.
You should however, if you choose some aged speakers look out for the condition of e.g. the drivers.
MM
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They are not compatible.Beomaster 901 was built for passive speakers.Beolab 6000 are active speakers (they have built-in amplifiers).Suitable speakers for your Beomaster 901 would be any of the models in the Beovox range from the late 1960s to the early 1990s.Beovox S45 would be an excellent choice, but also the smaller Beovox S30 (Type 6301), Beovox 1100 or the panel versions Beovox P30 or P45.Beomaster 901 was often shown with Beovox 901 (or Beovox 1001) speakers, which are both special and somewhat rare, but theabove mentioned models are (in my opinion) better speakers and easier to find.
Martin
Hi endean0,
Welcome to Beoworld!
Please don't worry, whilst officially these speakers weren't designed to be used with your Beomaster, they can be made to work well together.
The key is to reduce the amplified speaker outputs of the Beomaster to a variable line level that the speakers can accept.
To achieve this, please connect two speakers to the 2 pin DIN speaker terminals on the back of the Beomaster using this Attenuated Converter: https://soundsheavenly.com/line-in-connection/power-amplifier-to-beolab-line-in-attenuated-convertor-kit and then use this cable to connect the speakers to the output sockets of the Converter: https://soundsheavenly.com/line-in-connection/av-processor-pre-amp-sonos-to-beolab-rca-line-in
I can supply the converter with fitted 2 pin DIN plugs to link into the sockets on the Beomaster on request. This is a popular solution which allows Beolab speakers to be used effectively with a wide range of classic and modern audio products from different manufacturers.
Kind regards, Steve.
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I can confirm that the attenuator suggested by Steve works very well — I have a 1970s quadraphonic Beomaster 6000 feeding BeoLab 90s and BeoLab 5s. B&O claimed that this setup could not be made to work, but Geoff Martin assured me it could, and with Steve's help we made it happen.
politician: I can confirm that the attenuator suggested by Steve works very well — I have a 1970s quadraphonic Beomaster 6000 feeding BeoLab 90s and BeoLab 5s. B&O claimed that this setup could not be made to work, but Geoff Martin assured me it could, and with Steve's help we made it happen.
My mind is finally blown!! You use Beolab 90s and Beolab 5s with a quad 6000?! I confess that if doing this, (and my mind has not recovered to work out why I would do this!) I would have tried bypassing the power amplifiers which are one of the weak points of the amplifier. Of course the damage is limited by the large impedance that is being driven using the attenuator, but it would remove some of the superfluous circuitry!
Peter
Getting back to the original thought, the S45s will sound much better than the 6000s anyway - described by T. Jarman as a pair of car speakers mounted in a drain pipe - only the tuning work done by the likes of Geoff allow it to function to any degree worthy of B&O. Hope they are cheap!
Peter:Getting back to the original thought, the S45s will sound much better than the 6000s anyway - described by T. Jarman as a pair of car speakers mounted in a drain pipe - only the tuning work done by the likes of Geoff allow it to function to any degree worthy of B&O. Hope they are cheap! Peter
4000s are really rather good! In the old days, every room in Struer seemed to have a pair! Have a couple of pairs - the earlier class A/B rather than the ICE power ones.
Peter:4000s are really rather good! In the old days, every room in Struer seemed to have a pair! Have a couple of pairs - the earlier class A/B rather than the ICE power ones. Peter
Mine have the ok foam !
Peter:My mind is finally blown!! You use Beolab 90s and Beolab 5s with a quad 6000?! I confess that if doing this, (and my mind has not recovered to work out why I would do this!) I would have tried bypassing the power amplifiers which are one of the weak points of the amplifier. Of course the damage is limited by the large impedance that is being driven using the attenuator, but it would remove some of the superfluous circuitry!
The objective was to be able to listen to quadraphonic vinyl using active speakers, and I settled for the Beomaster 6000 rather than the 3400 (which I also own) as the sound can be balanced front-to-back via remote control. Bypassing the power amplifiers in the BM6000 so it merely functions as a pre-amp never occurred to me, but sounds an interesting idea — how would I do that?
Hi politician,
Beomaster 6000 doesn't have the full set of four pre-out sockets that would be required to allow the power amps to by bypassed for quadraphonic listening through active speakers via normal methods. However, the attenuated converters that I mentioned above can be added to the speaker terminals of the Beomaster (one converter is needed for each pair of active speakers) to allow Beolab speakers to be used for quadraphonic use.
This gives the same end result, although strictly speaking this doesn't "bypass" the power amps in the Beomaster, it lets the signals go through the power amps, then reduces them back down to line level to be passed safely to active Beolab speakers.
Hope this helps, any questions please ask!
Thanks Steve! That's exactly how we've got the system set up.
I'm not as hard on the sound of the 6000s as most. I think because they're a stand alone, floor standing speaker many have too many expectations. The way I look at them is as a very, very stylish background music speaker, like a stunning looking boombox, and viewed that way they are quite nice. They will never be, say, a LS3/5a, or such, nor were they intended as such. They do also make great surround speakers.
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
Jeff:I'm not as hard on the sound of the 6000s as most. I think because they're a stand alone, floor standing speaker many have too many expectations. The way I look at them is as a very, very stylish background music speaker, like a stunning looking boombox, and viewed that way they are quite nice. They will never be, say, a LS3/5a, or such, nor were they intended as such. They do also make great surround speakers. Jeff Beovirus victim, it's gotten to be too much to list!