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Help with masterlink

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2012martin
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2012martin Posted: Tue, Nov 6 2012 5:13 PM

Hi all. The day had come I'm now going to masterlink everything together. Before I connect them together I'm sure I had read that you ave to put two of the coloured cables together. Does anybody know or can help?. Thank

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valve1 replied on Tue, Nov 6 2012 5:30 PM

How are you planning to terminate ? I would recommend soldering and putting "shrinkies" on. Termination boxes are fine but if you are joining more than two pieces of cable it gives a more solid (imo ) joint. Join the colour's one for one, ie green to green etc. Do not forget to  join all your bare metal screening cables.

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Hi thanks for the advice. Don't mean to sound thick but what are shrinkles? I've used termination blocks but may change thanks

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valve1 replied on Tue, Nov 6 2012 6:47 PM

Wish I knew what they officially are called but that is what most cable/electrical workers refer to them as. It is supplied in different dimensions and is basically a soft rubber tube you slide over your solder/joint and using a hot air (hair dryer) machine (or a match) it shrink's tightly around your joint to prevent shot circuits or corrosion.

If you are using terminal blocks make sure you have the correct insulation displacement tool. They are block specific.

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I have just used normal block connectors and a screw drives and all is workin fine. I wired each colour to the same colour. and wired all the exposed cables together. I also taped over any exposed bare wire. Should I have done something different? Thank you again

 

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I have just used normal block connectors and a screw drives and all is workin fine. I wired each colour to the same colour. and wired all the exposed cables together. I also taped over any exposed bare wire. Should I have done something different? Thank you again

 

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Vienna replied on Tue, Nov 6 2012 8:03 PM

2012martin:
Should I have done something different?

YES! In an original Junction-Box  pin 3 "white-blue" (ML Sense) and pin 12 "pink" (Vml) are internally connected.
Make a connecting "jumper wire"  between "white-blue" and "pink"

valve1:

Wish I knew what they officially are called but that is what most cable/electrical workers refer to them as. It is supplied in different dimensions and is basically a soft rubber tube you slide over your solder/joint and using a hot air (hair dryer) machine (or a match) it shrink's tightly around your joint to prevent shot circuits or corrosion.

Smile  ...shrunk-on hose, shrink hose, heat shrink tube, shrink sleeving, ...

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valve1 replied on Tue, Nov 6 2012 8:21 PM

Vienna:

YES! In an original Juncton-Box  pin 3 "white-blue" (ML Sense) and pin 12 "pink" (Vml) are internally connected.
Make a connecting "jumper wire"  between "white-blue" and "pink"

 

Thanks for the correction Vienna as this is new to me also. What does this jumpering do ? 

 

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Vienna replied on Tue, Nov 6 2012 8:30 PM

valve1:
What does this jumpering do ? 

To put it simply - making it easier for the ML master(s) to "find" components connected to the ML-sytem -
especially in larger setups. 

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Hi thanks again so would you wire them all together (white-blue / pink) or just put a small wire from the white-blue block connector to the pink one? Thanks again

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Vienna replied on Wed, Nov 7 2012 9:33 AM

2012martin:
would you wire them all together (white-blue / pink) or just put a small wire from the white-blue block connector to the pink one?

As you like it / it is more convenient / it is easier to do - the result will be the same.

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Ok excellent does anyone know an easy way of wireing say around 4 masterlink cables together? Which I can add to easily later on? I've used block connectors but it's so tight and fiddle  if I try adding any more I think I will mess it up. I was thinking of crimpies with the little hole through and maybe using a little nut and bolt and then taping it up. Anyone ever done anything similar! Thank you in advance.

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valve1 replied on Wed, Nov 7 2012 5:11 PM

For 4 cables joining at one termination I would still go for soldering and perhaps if you know you will want to add another cable later you could just use tape for insulation on each pair. If such a thing as a 4 way crimp exists it would work but I am not aware of them,

Lets know how it goes for you.

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Well well, I use the original junction boxes from B&O.

Comes with a decription howto - just do as explained there.

Greetings Millemissen

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Rikard replied on Thu, Nov 8 2012 5:18 AM

I solder my ML cables, I think it is the easiest way and I know that they will not start to backlash. 

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Rikard replied on Thu, Nov 8 2012 5:18 AM

I solder my ML cables, I think it is the easiest way and I know that they will not start to backlash. 

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Vienna replied on Thu, Nov 8 2012 9:44 AM

Millemissen:

Well well, I use the original junction boxes from B&O.

I'm preferably using the "Large Version" of ML-Junction-Box (B&O Order# 3375189).
Much easier and straightforward to assemble than the "Small Version" of the ML Junction Box
and also providing cable fixation / strain relief.

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