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Hi,
I have just got a pair of beolab 3, and I am considering to buy a beosound encore to pair with my bl3s. I am sure the bs5 encore should be very good for music. But I also want to connect bs5 encore to my blu ray player for watching movies in 2.0 channel. I am not sure whether this is possible, from b&o's website, it does say bs5 encore can connect to any media player with line out. My blu ray player has optical out, coaxial out and analog audio out. Which 'out' should I connect?
If bs5 encore can work together with blu ray player, I imagine the whole set up should be Blu ray player connect to TV through HDMI for picture, and Blu ray player connect to bs5 encore for sound. In this way, would the sound and picture 'match' each other at same time? Would it be a delay for sound, as the sound is processed be bs5 encore not Blu ray player.
Many thanks
Impossible, the will be a delay between sound and image.
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Thanks for your quick reply. So the bs5 encore is limited for audio only, no way to work together with blu ray player? It is a shame B&O doesn't have any replace product for beocenter 2.
mbee: Impossible, the will be a delay between sound and image.
If connected directly - yes.A workaround could be:
- Connect the BD to your TV via HDMI- TV-settings for digital sound to 2 channel - Let the TV do the "sync-job" - Most TVs have an optical out (TOSLINK)- Use a decent stereo D/A converter to convert digital sound to analogue line- Connect converter to AUX / Line-In of BeoSound Encore.
Vienna: mbee: Impossible, the will be a delay between sound and image. If connected directly - yes. A workaround could be: - Connect the BD to your TV via HDMI- TV-settings for digital sound to 2 channel - Let the TV do the "sync-job" - Most TVs have an optical out (TOSLINK)- Use a decent stereo D/A converter to convert digital sound to analogue line- Connect converter to AUX / Line-In of BeoSound Encore.
If connected directly - yes.
A workaround could be:
A pity that the PlayMaker does not have a PowerLink connection as well as the line in ....
BeoNut since '75
elephant: A pity that the PlayMaker does not have a PowerLink connection as well as the line in ....
The suggested workaround is based on the assumption "NON B&O TV - NO LINE OUT" If it's a B&O TV you'll just need an 8 pin DIN/RJ45 <> Stereo 3,5mm Jack adapter cable connected to a Front-PL-Out .
Vienna: elephant: A pity that the PlayMaker does not have a PowerLink connection as well as the line in .... The suggested workaround is based on the assumption "NON B&O TV - NO LINE OUT" If it's a B&O TV you'll just need an 8 pin DIN/RJ45 <> Stereo 3,5mm Jack adapter cable connected to a Front-PL-Out .
Oh I was thinking of something that is not possible ...
+---- lineout --- TV||+=== Playmaker ---<=== BeoLabs||+--- powerlink --- BS5/BM5
And the Playmaker would sense which source was active TV or BS5 (or the DLNA, or the AirPlay)
Hi Vienna, if let tv to do the sync job, would sound and image match each other? Would it be a delay as well? Have you tried this yourself?
thanks
elephant: Oh I was thinking of something that is not possible ... +---- lineout --- TV||+=== Playmaker ---<=== BeoLabs||+--- powerlink --- BS5/BM5 And the Playmaker would sense which source was active TV or BS5 (or the DLNA, or the AirPlay)
Dear friend,
I've used parts of the following solutions in different setups - but I never checked the described setup as "complete system" - so this are merely "theoretical" thoughs. - "Line-Out" of a non B&O TV (if available - otherwise workaround using D/A converter) via RCA/Cinch<> RCA/Cinch-cableor - if it's a B&O TV, "Special Adapter" DIN/RJ45 <> 2xRCA/Cinch plug from PL-Front to "Line In" of Playmaker - Playmaker set to "fixed volume" + option setting to "A.OPT" "0" or "4" (to avoid IR conflicts between Encore and Playmaker when using "A.AUX")
- "Special Adapter" RJ45 <> 3,5mm mini jack (or 2 B&O cables, part# 6271216 + 6270433)from Playmaker PL-Out >> 3,5 AUX-In socket on BSD Encore The Playmaker would auto-sense active source (TV=Line or DLNA/AirPlay)
Speakers would still be connected to the PL-Out of BSd Encore via Powerlink.
You'll have to select "A.AUX" via remote or manually to get the sound of your TV or from streaming device.
But there is still a general problem to be resolved:Since the sound processing in the BS Encore is digital, a delay will occur.The TV also uses a delay to get picture an sound synchronous. You'll have to adjust the the lip sync of your TV/Source to a lesser value.If your TV does not offer a wide range to adjust lip-sync it is very likelyyou won't get picture and sound synchronous.
PS: To avoid the "additional delay issue" caused by the BeoSound Encores digital sound processing the Bosscom PowerLink-Switch could be used. PL from Encore on one input, on the other TV or Playmaker with TV on Playmakers Line In .
You need to look at the full BeoSound 5 with BeoMaster 5 for what you're trying to do. The BeoSound 5 Encore is intended strictly to be a standalone product. The BeoSound 5 with BeoMaster 5 is intended to connect with other products for MasterLink integration.
@ beojeff
Absolutely right, the most straightforward and easiest way to reach the goal would be a "classic" pure B&O A/V setupusing MasterLink componets. All speakers connected to the B&O TV, as this would solve all delay and lipsync issues.A BeoSound/BeoMaster 5 full combo plus a BeoVision 7 or 10 (or a BeoVision 11 + NL/ML Converter) will be a nicesetup to drive a pair of BeoLab 3s.
I admit, some parts of the discussion between elefant and me are a bit off topic to the original question "can beosound 5 encore work with blu ray play?"
Answer in a nutshell: I should be possible when using some unorthodox workarounds, but it's not recommended- there are to many if and when to predict a satisfactory result.
mivsbai: Thanks for your quick reply. So the bs5 encore is limited for audio only, no way to work together with blu ray player? It is a shame B&O doesn't have any replace product for beocenter 2.
I fully agree with you that it's a shame that B&O hasn't replaced the BeoCenter 2, upgrading it to a blu-ray player with HDMI. While I can't bring myself to part with my BeoCenter 2 because it's such a beautiful design, I never even use it anymore. The only time I touch it is to dust it. My BeoSound 5 has made CDs obsolete, the Net Radio on the BeoSound 5 has made standard radio (for me, anyway) obsolete, and my Samsung blu-ray player completely outperforms the BeoCenter 2 for playing DVDs. So what we're left with is Bang & Olufsen without a blu-ray player in its product line and a completely out-dated dvd player (i.e., BeoCenter 2) with inferior video when compared to blu-ray players' upscaling ability.
I know that the classic BeoSound 5 is quite a bit more in price than the Encore, but the features are really what you are looking for, especially if you plan to add link speakers in another room -- which you will once you've gotten the B&O addiction.
The answer to the original question was already given - so I am just repeating:
Use a Bosscom PL Switch (or the http://almando.com/ - solution).
One input for the Encore - the other for the lineout of the tv (with the BRP via HDMI)
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As for the unused BC2 of beojeff:. sell it - do not wait - it will soon be worthless.
Or put it in a glasscabinet to avoid the dust on it!
Greetings Millemissen
There is a tv - and there is a BV
So listening to all the issues we're going to be having moving between ML and the new link, digital distrubution to analogue in link rooms etc, I always wonder if anything like this would be of use?... http://www.felston.com/dd740/
@Millemissen @Vienna
So I guess the Bosscom PL switch can act like a bridge between tv and BS5 encore. And the sound and image can be synchronous with the help of Bosscom PL switch? Even my TV doesn't have lip-sync adjustment? Am I right?
I assume the setup would be:
bl3s =>pl out from Bosscom PL switch
BS5 encore=> PL line in 2 from Bosscom PL switch
TV => line in 1 from Bosscom PL switch ( If the TV doesn't have line out, just use a high quality optical to analog converter)
BRP =>TV through HDMI
Btw, I do not own B&O tv and playmaker
Thanks
mivsbai: @Millemissen @Vienna So I guess the Bosscom PL switch can act like a bridge between tv and BS5 encore.And the sound and image can be synchronous with the help of Bosscom PL switch? Even my TV doesn't have lip-sync adjustment? Am I right? I assume the setup would be:bl3s =>pl out from Bosscom PL switchBS5 encore=> PL line in 2 from Bosscom PL switchTV => line in 1 from Bosscom PL switch (If the TV doesn't have line out, just use a high quality optical to analog converter)BRP =>TV through HDMIBtw, I do not own B&O tv and playmaker Thanks
So I guess the Bosscom PL switch can act like a bridge between tv and BS5 encore.And the sound and image can be synchronous with the help of Bosscom PL switch? Even my TV doesn't have lip-sync adjustment? Am I right?
I assume the setup would be:bl3s =>pl out from Bosscom PL switchBS5 encore=> PL line in 2 from Bosscom PL switchTV => line in 1 from Bosscom PL switch (If the TV doesn't have line out, just use a high quality optical to analog converter)BRP =>TV through HDMIBtw, I do not own B&O tv and playmaker
BINGO!
benjnz: So listening to all the issues we're going to be having moving between ML and the new link, digital distrubution to analogue in link rooms etc, I always wonder if anything like this would be of use?... http://www.felston.com/dd740/
Yes, boxes like this one can help to solve specific delay issues - but there are no simple "one fits all" solutions in complex setups.