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Hi,
I need some help with my BeoLink converter.
Today i use it to connect Beosound 9000 with Beovision Avant.
I would like to keep it that way, but also use it to connect speakers trough the Powerlink connection. Is this possible?
So that i could connect 2 speakers and use them as back speakers in a surround system through the Avant.
Hope thats understandable..
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Hi Jens,
no that is not possible!
Connecting speakers to the converter (and the needed ir-eye) is like having a seperate device, a seperate individual room in the setup.
Much like the old Active Link box in the ML system - I suppose, that you know that?
I wonder why you would want to do this?
Why not just install those two speakers with the Avant - for ‘back speakers in...’.
And make another Speakers Group consisting of only these two speakers too - for additional use.......if that is what you intent?
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Now im a bit confused..
I`ll explain in more detail.
Today im using the Avant with Beolab 5 as main speakers. The BeoLink is connected to my network and connects the Beosund 9000 with the Avant.
This week im expecting delivery of Beolab 90. These will be used as my main speakers. This leaves me with a pair of beolab 5 that i would like to use as back speakers. To do so i can`t run cables across the livingroom. The BeoLink is placed at the backwall of the livingroom making it a suitbale place to connect back speakers through the powerlink connection.
I can`t find any info regarding such a setup with the Beolink. If this is not possible - what would be the best way to go about? Using Transmitter-1?
Yes, thats correct.
So to be clear - the Transmitter would defenetly make such a setup work? Im not to familyiar with this box..
JensT: Now im a bit confused.. I`ll explain in more detail. Today im using the Avant with Beolab 5 as main speakers. The BeoLink is connected to my network and connects the Beosund 9000 with the Avant. This week im expecting delivery of Beolab 90. These will be used as my main speakers. This leaves me with a pair of beolab 5 that i would like to use as back speakers. To do so i can`t run cables across the livingroom. The BeoLink is placed at the backwall of the livingroom making it a suitbale place to connect back speakers through the powerlink connection. I can`t find any info regarding such a setup with the Beolink. If this is not possible - what would be the best way to go about? Using Transmitter-1?
The Receiver One (asuming that your tv has WPL) would be the solution....
....apart from the fact that this won’t work with the BL5’s.
I am afraid to say that you will have to run cables - the appropriate BL5 cables (and you can daisychain from one BL5 to another).
The BLC can not be integrated for this purpose!
P.S. See also this thread, where Steve/SoundsHeavenly suggests to use the PL output of the Receiver One with the line input of the BL5’s.
https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/25222/224298.aspx
Whether anyone has tested this or not, I don’t know....I would not suggest it:
The tv has WPL.
Reciver One seems to be a solution. But if i understand the thread you linked to correctly they would only work in Line input on the speakers. This im assuming means they wont power on/off trough the tv? - thats why you would not suggest it?
This turned out to be a bit more troublesome than i thougt it would be... without runing cables..
To the best of my knowledge, the Receiver One cannot be used for Beolab 5's. I believe the 5's require a trigge that the Receivers do not have.
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Easiest way - give it a try, Jens.
Testing is better than speculating....and waiting for an answer, that might never come.
This said - as surround speakers it would be more troublesome with the turning on/off through the line sense.
Also I don’t think that you can benefit from the recognition of the speakers as BL5’s in the audio settings of the audio engine/Avant.
Is it really impossible for you to wire the speakers - best way of connecting, anyway!
Congrats on the BL90’s by the way - have fun ;-)
elephant:I In practice, you CAN use Transmitter1/Receiver 1 with Beolab 5..... Simply use an RJ45 to RCA cable from the Receiver 1 output to the Line input of the speaker, then activate the speaker in Line mode via the B&O remote:-
In practice, you CAN use Transmitter1/Receiver 1 with Beolab 5..... Simply use an RJ45 to RCA cable from the Receiver 1 output to the Line input of the speaker, then activate the speaker in Line mode via the B&O remote:-
Thinking a bit more about this, the suggestion from Steve was meant for a set of BL5’s used in a 2.0/stereo setup and NOT as surround speakers connected to to output of rhe B&O multi channel engine.
Millemissen:elephant/Steve of Sounds Heavenly In practice, you CAN use Transmitter1/Receiver 1 with Beolab 5..... Simply use an RJ45 to RCA cable from the Receiver 1 output to the Line input of the speaker, then activate the speaker in Line mode via the B&O remote:-MM:Thinking a bit more about this, the suggestion from Steve was meant for a set of BL5’s used in a 2.0/stereo setup and NOT as surround speakers connected to to output of rhe B&O multi channel engine.
Yes, Beolab 5 (and also Beolab 50 and 90) can be used with Transmitter 1/Receiver 1, but the speakers need to be in Line mode so this works but it does require the speakers to be manually switched on via a Beo4 remote control (or using the Beolab 50/90 app) before use.
This can be either a stereo setup, or as part of a full surround sound setup if required, the setup process is the same either way. You would need one Transmitter 1 (not needed in this case, as the Avant has WiSA built in) and also a separate Receiver 1 for each speaker. The RCA Analogue Line input would be used on each speaker (this is the same for Beolab 5, 50 and 90), which is an effective work-around to B&O's official view that these speakers "cannot be used with Transmitter 1/Receiver 1".
As stated above, the best option is always a direct cable connection from the TV to each speaker where possible
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Just to clarify - in this case (with the Avant) there is no need for a Transmitter 1.
This functionallity is built in to the tv.
Two Receiver 1’s are needed, yes.
I am looking forward to hear about the results of using the BL5’s as surround speakers....
....where they have to be ‘switched manually on via a Beo4’ - if the op decides to avoid cinnecting with PL.
Thanks for all the help everyone!
There is one possible way to run cables. But not quit sure if its a good solution..
I could use the network cabels running through my flat.
There is a walloutlet with 2xRJ45 connectors at the back of the livingroom. I could connect 2 Cat5 cabels from the TV into the "distrubution" "inlet" (don`t know how to describe this in a better way...) witch would come out close to where the speakers will be placed.
How does the PowerLink signal cope with going over long distances? Does it easily get "disturbed" and starts to get "noisey"?
Hi JensT,
Unfortunately, standard Cat 5/6 cables are not suitable for use with Beolab speakers, as these cables are not shielded. This means that you will get huge amounts of background noise and interference through the speakers.
Only fully shielded cables should be used, to avoid these problems.
After some consideration i decided to go with the best solution - runing cabels.
And after spending a couple of weeks with the BL90`s Ive noticed something anoying.. Every now and then the "slave" speakers turns the sound off and on for about 1 second, and at 1 oucation the speaker turnd completey off. (had to take the power cord out and put it back in..) Have not yet been in contact with the store, as I was hoping this might "go away".
Anyone know what the problem might be?
Guess it might have happend 5 or 6 times..
That aside - they sound amazing! Making the BL5 look (and sound) kind of small..
Apparently i`m not the only one experiencing this issue. My dealer told me another BL90 customer got the same problem after the new software update. Luckely a new update is likey to fix it.
I need some more help with another converter issue.
Is is posible to convert datalink signal to masterlink?
ive got a 8000 serise setup that would be nice to connect into my system. Cant figure out a way to do it..
Woudl like to play music from the LP player now and then.. also it would be cool just to be get all of it intergrated with the rest.
Got a picture of what i would like to hook up with the Avant/BL90: