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Fisp: I got a call from my dealer today who told me that the harddrive was dead and had to be replaced. This would cost about 900 euros😱 I will of course not spend that amount of money on an old system, and a second hand Moment does not cost much more. However, without gapless playback, the Moment is not for me and instead I might consider changing the harddrive myself. There are several threads in here about this, so I will have to do some studying before I decide what to do. I’m no technical expert, so this may be too complex an operation. I’ll let you know what I decide to do. Thanks for all you comments!
I got a call from my dealer today who told me that the harddrive was dead and had to be replaced. This would cost about 900 euros😱
I will of course not spend that amount of money on an old system, and a second hand Moment does not cost much more.
However, without gapless playback, the Moment is not for me and instead I might consider changing the harddrive myself. There are several threads in here about this, so I will have to do some studying before I decide what to do. I’m no technical expert, so this may be too complex an operation.
I’ll let you know what I decide to do.
Thanks for all you comments!
If you decide to get rid of the Beosound/Beomaster because repair is too much trouble, I would be interested in the BS5 part of the system, to use is as a control unit and screen for a custom raspberry pi music player.
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Mr 10Percent: The key to the BS5 was a) a rock-solid music file structure and b) buying a superfast 1TB Harddrive. Do that and with +600 albums, I found it was not lacking in terms of responsiveness and straight forward to clone-up.
The key to the BS5 was a) a rock-solid music file structure and b) buying a superfast 1TB Harddrive. Do that and with +600 albums, I found it was not lacking in terms of responsiveness and straight forward to clone-up.
Sorry not being smart. Sorry for the hard drive too. Like all PCs, best to keep a clone or full backup image as HDDs do fail. A 450 Euro HDD also has some propriety software on it.
Ask you Dealer/repairer if you can supply a HDD of your choice (better quality, faster, more cache) and the Dealer installs the programs via the mythical USB backup stick
MJBeo:If you decide to get rid of the Beosound/Beomaster because repair is too much trouble, I would be interested in the BS5 part of the system, to use is as a control unit and screen for a custom raspberry pi music player. Beosystem 5500 + Playmaker MKI + RL60.2 / MCL2 A + RL35 BV7-32 MKIII + Raspberry Pi3 + Lintronic -238 + MCL2P & CX50 / Cona 4 link rooms with MCL2 A / MCL2 A/V + MCL2P + CX100 / CX50 / Grundig 210a Various Vintage restore objects
koning: Harddrive 450 euro's incl.
Harddrive 450 euro's incl.
Where did you find the B&O harddrive? Can’t find it on Amazon or eBay.
Either I will try to replace the hdd somehow or sell the BM5 to my dealer.
Mr 10Percent: Mr 10Percent: The key to the BS5 was a) a rock-solid music file structure and b) buying a superfast 1TB Harddrive. Do that and with +600 albums, I found it was not lacking in terms of responsiveness and straight forward to clone-up. Sorry not being smart. Sorry for the hard drive too. Like all PCs, best to keep a clone or full backup image as HDDs do fail. A 450 Euro HDD also has some propriety software on it. Ask you Dealer/repairer if you can supply a HDD of your choice (better quality, faster, more cache) and the Dealer installs the programs via the mythical USB backup stick
Thanks a lot for your comments. I’ll keep that in mind
steve1977:i’ve been thinking the same. have you seen this working? with raspplex? has anyone done the customization effort?
I have heard BeoMotion did it:
BeoMotion: Sat, May 2 2015 6:33 PM: Today I had a look at the BeoSound 5 USB communication.Quite easy and straightforward. Wrote a little program and hooked up the BeoSound 5 via USB and HDMI to a Raspberry Pi. Worked flawlessly including full button / lever / ring / volume-wheel support. So if there comes a time when there are no spare parts for the BM5 available any longer this would be an alternative.Just add a good DAC and maybe use XBMC with a highly modified UI.Hopefully there will also be some open ML stuff in future. We are working on this in another thread... BR,BeoMotion
Today I had a look at the BeoSound 5 USB communication.Quite easy and straightforward.
Wrote a little program and hooked up the BeoSound 5 via USB and HDMI to a Raspberry Pi.
Worked flawlessly including full button / lever / ring / volume-wheel support. So if there comes a time when there are no spare parts for the BM5 available any longer this would be an alternative.Just add a good DAC and maybe use XBMC with a highly modified UI.Hopefully there will also be some open ML stuff in future. We are working on this in another thread...
BR,BeoMotion
So I guess it could be done?
An update and additional question.
Based on the many comments in this thread, I have decided to keep my BM5. I sent it in for repair at an non-authorised B&O dealer, and they replaced the whole box with a refurbished one with one year's guarantee. I'm about to move all files from my backup disk to the new HDD. Learning from my mistake, I will purchase a new HDD once all my files have been copied and clone this with the existing B&O HDD. I will then use the B&O HDD as backup. A little further down the road, I will experiment with cloning the HDD to a Crucial SSD.
I will use this opportunity to organize my music library so updating and transferring from iTunes to BM5 will be done more or less automatically. And in this process I have a question:
I have many files in Apple Losless which BM5 cannot read. What is the easiest way to convert iTunes files in Apple Lossless to AAC? Previously, I have used XLD to convert and move files. However, I want to find a way of going directly from iTunes Apple Lossless to BM5 AAC without XLD. Is this possible?
On my BM5 there is an entry in the servicemenu called "Converting". Can this be used to automatically convert music files which the BM5 cannot read? (I have, of course, tried to set converting to "Yes" but it does not seem to convert either existing music files or files when they are moved from iTunes to BM5)
Thanks a lot for all your comments.
Fisp: I have many files in Apple Losless which BM5 cannot read. What is the easiest way to convert iTunes files in Apple Lossless to AAC? Previously, I have used XLD to convert and move files. However, I want to find a way of going directly from iTunes Apple Lossless to BM5 AAC without XLD. Is this possible?
If you have a Mac I think you can use Toast for that conversion.
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The "converting" converts files that the BM5 can read "wma lossless" to flac or mp3 (don't remember which, probably flac) when it serves DLNA files. In this way, I can listen to wma lossless files on my Eclipse or Essence (which do not support wma lossless) served from my BM5. The files remain stored as wma, they are only converted during the serving process.
Hiort: If you have a Mac I think you can use Toast for that conversion.
It can also be done in iTunes directly. Check out this Apple support article.
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Stan: The "converting" converts files that the BM5 can read "wma lossless" to flac or mp3 (don't remember which, probably flac) when it serves DLNA files. In this way, I can listen to wma lossless files on my Eclipse or Essence (which do not support wma lossless) served from my BM5. The files remain stored as wma, they are only converted during the serving process.
Ok. That makes sense. Thanks.
tph: Hiort: If you have a Mac I think you can use Toast for that conversion. It can also be done in iTunes directly. Check out this Apple support article.
This seems to work. By pressing option key, ITunes asks for a new location, and I can copy to BM5.