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Hi,
Because after cleaning and maintenance my Beosystem plays like new, and because I do not like compromise, I searched for the right speakers for a long time. My choice is Infinity Kappa 6.1. Equipment from the age of my beosystem, heavy oak boxes of one meter high and excellent speakers. Everyone who knows about the speakers knows what it is. I am currently in the process of renovation, new suspension of the basses, control of crosover elements, and painting because even the beauty of Infinity kappa must match the rest.
And now the most important technical question.
The speakers are 6ohm. Beomaster is 8ohm. The speakers need a lot of power to drive them. They have separate HI and LOW frequencies input. If I connect the output from the beomaster to the loudspeakers 1 to LOW and to the 2 speakers on the HI in the Infinity, will the amplifier work well and will it help it at work ?? Does the beomaster 5000 output speakers 1 and the speakers 2 have the same signal levels ??
Best regards
Martynka
BeO is like a good wine - the older the better...
Thank you for reply,
Normally, Hi and LOW inputs have bridges. I know that I will not improve the quality of sound and power, I just thought that just an amplifier working on 4 outputs would have easier.
I am still in the process of renovation my Kappa's. But in the Poland where I live, I can buy BeoVox M70, in good condition, it coast about 200 euro.
I know it's good speakers. In the description on paper better than my new Kappa, but do they really sound good with Beosystem 5000 ??
If it's worth the price, Infinity can wait with renovation ...
Ok, but I'm beolovers not beoorthodox. I know that the M70 is probably the best B & O speaker. But I already have Kappa and now the M70 seller offered me Infinity RS with Emit-r on ribbons. It's nice to have an M70 but will Seas and Peerless speakers sound better than EMIT k Tweeter, Polyspherite and IMG Woofers ??
I'm asking because I'm an audiophile and a music lover.
I sold the Beovox S55 because it did not sound satisfactory to me. Now Beosystem with Kappa speakers is a completely different world. I'm afraid that the M70 will not jump over it, but I know that Reference sounds even better then Kappa. So I have a dilemma whether Beovox with 27 Hz will be better for me in reception than the wonderful high tones of Infinity.
After buying Infinity, before I dismantled them, I listened to them almost constantly. Even at work, I looked at my watch when I could touch the MCP and move to another world.
I found the perfect headphones for me after 2 years of searching (for me, Bose rules), and I know that with speakers will not be better or shorter.
Today I packed my beomaster 5000 in the car and drove 450 km for listening. I connected the Infinity RS 5001 then the M70 and, unfortunately, the choice was obvious. I am just coming back and my new friends are riding in the backseat.
My style?? No, I just always know what I like and when I do not know, I have to find it. For a few years of my life I know that I could not live without beautiful women, music and old cars. Music is always with me, on training, during travel, and even on a walk with a dog. In old cars, I've always had the classics of audio systems. In the Lexus LS400 - Nakamichi, in the BMW E32 - Becker 1801 Bavaria C Professional, in Saab I have a full Harman Kardon. At home, I have now found the Beosystem 5000 sound.
I have already said that I was looking for the last piece of the puzzle, speakers that give the warmth and naturalness of Beomaster 5000 sound. I went through the B & O, Technics, B & W, Infinity speakers and only the M70 made everything go together .
Yesterday's listening confirmed that this is it but only today I calmly connected everything at home and ... I turned off the light, randomly chose the CD, put it in the CD50 and sat down in the darkness. Setting the volume in half and let go play. Within a few sounds of music, Counting Crows has become the best album in the world. The hair on the skin has picked up, and maybe someone will say that I am undemanding but I have had a musical nirvana. Have you ever listened to music with tears in your eyes with happiness ?? No, I did not drink anything, and I did not take anything, it was M70.
And now I'm listening to the next album on my 30 year old stereo with 40 year speakers, I close my eyes and can not point to the sound source. This old stereo plays like a new surround system. Like I did not listen to music just like I was in it...
I apologize for this colorful post but it is written honestly, it is colorful but not colored, just like the sound of the M70. And most importantly, thanks for your help, if you did not write about the M70, I would not go and check how it sounds
Jacques
ESL ... if the Queen uses them then it must be the best.
By the way, today for 13 hours I was listening to music and I do not have enough. I discovered another feature of the M70. I play music, I leave the room in which they stand, and continue to feel this sound quality, the bass breaks discreetly into the entire 360 meters of the house, although the Beomaster 5000 volume is at 3/4.
I would create another topic from the renovation of the M70 but there are so many of them here ... who will read it ??
Now, for a moment I connected Infinity and dismantled B&O, I have to check what is inside and take few photo.
P.S. Infinity sound wonderful, but only at high power, when they play silently they are completely lost.
Hi Rich,
I read your thread about the M70 ... bravo you
Mine are in better shape, I am wondering whether to fix it or leave it as it is. I will create a new thread and I will post the link here.
Ok.. I do it here:
https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/35092.aspx
After a few days of listening to music on the M70, I find that:
- they eat more power than infinity Kappa, 4 ohms vs 6 ohms and after one hour with 2/3 of the amplifier's power, the temperature protection switches Beosystem off, even though the fan is working. Today I will strip it and change the paste on the radiator.
Because I have to find a M70 replacement, I apologized for Infinity. My Kappa have been sold, but now I have something better ... RS 3b. Unfortunately, they do it with my Beomaster what they want. Beomaster is weak. I know how they play with power equipment and how much they are worth. But here there is no bass, it does not sound.
But...
I have my old Yamaha M2 and I want to use it.
How can I run Beomaster 5000 as a preamplifier?
Martynka:After a few days of listening to music on the M70, I find that:- they eat more power than infinity Kappa, 4 ohms vs 6 ohms and after one hour with 2/3 of the amplifier's power, the temperature protection switches Beosystem off, even though the fan is working. Today I will strip it and change the paste on the radiator.
It has been solved long time ago.
I applied a new thermoconductive paste on the transistors.
but one more time:
How can I run my Beomaster 5000 as a preamplifier ??
Beomaster with Yamaha at Infinity does not sound as good as I thought.... but I found nirvana.
There is no M70 here, but here is my new paradise:
the KEF Reference series model 104aB.
Yes they sound very good, a tad laid-back with slightly recessed treble.
And their efficiency is in ESL territory, with that B200 demanding lots of current.
To me yet, they are no match for the M70s.
But I discovered an advantage over the M70. I have a big house (about 360 m) and a living room about 50 m. I like listening to music at night, quietly and then the M70 was wonderful. Sometimes, however, I like to play hard to hear music throughout the house. Unfortunately, when the volume exceeds level 50 on the Beomaster 5000, the speakers are overdriven. They do not have that much power. That's how I burned Peerless. Now, temporarily on the KEF 104aB (100Watt), I sometimes play with full power and the sound is clear in the same way as in the middle of the volume.
What are MS120 and the old M150 compared to M70 ?? It's worth ??