Home Theatre with Eclipse Sound Center?

Hi!

I´m thinking of an HomeTheatre with a Eclipse Sound Center as HT Processor.

I unpluged the HDMI cable and got the picture on my beamer, but not the menu.

Has anyone any idea how i can fix this?

 

Greets,

mosim

The B&O menu will only appear once the soundcenter recognises that the OLED panel has been connected.

The eclipse does not output video. The menu u see on the LG panel is from the TV itself. 

L1NO:

The eclipse does not output video. The menu u see on the LG panel is from the TV itself.

Really, so the b&o menu is in lg software! That roules out bigger or newer lg panels.

So, Is the sound center useless as it is without the LG panel that suits it?

Esax:

That roules out bigger or newer lg panels.

No, not when these would be part of a Beovision Eclipse 😉

MM

Rob - Danish AV:

So, Is the sound center useless as it is without the LG panel that suits it?

Is that even a likely scenario, that someone would buy an Eclipse and scrap the screen of some reason?

There is a "Line in" to feed the Sound Centre but I dont think you will be able to manage anything without the screen.

 

 

 

 

Hiort:

Is that even a likely scenario, that someone would buy an Eclipse and scrap the screen of some reason?

 

Nevertheless, it is now listed separately in the official price list,- let the guessing game begin!

Fairly cheap actually...

Can't you configure the stuff you need to configure through the App?

Well, at 30.000DKK I would happily buy the (assumed) future version of a Sound Center that we frequently call here the Soundbar. :)

Hi mosim,

if you buy a splitter, you can use the screen and a beamer. A HDfury should help if your Beamer doesn’t have all the things the LG screen has (like HDR).

Just click on “image off” to turn off the screen when the beamer is on, and voilà!

Sure - but I guess that the op wanted to avoid buying the screen part of the BV Eclipse.

MM

BEOVOX141:

Hiort:

Is that even a likely scenario, that someone would buy an Eclipse and scrap the screen of some reason?

 

Nevertheless, it is now listed separately in the official price list,- let the guessing game begin!

Fairly cheap actually...

It's always been listed like this, but you cannot buy the sound center without the screen.  No guessing required.

I have already told BEOVOX141 that on another forum....but, he seems to have forgotten it 🤔

MM

There are a number of sound centres in a warehouse in Australia that will be up for sale soon. No panels, it was a valid question 

So, who will be the first to get one of these in order to try it out with a stock LG OLED tv?

MM

Millemissen:

I have already told BEOVOX141 that on another forum....but, he seems to have forgotten it 🤔

MM

My crystal ball says that after months of weeping and gnashing of teeth B&O will decide they are not in the TV business and come up with the idea to sell the sound center separate. I could also see the Cosmodrome in the background and Pinocchio on the display, and a Tuscany Blu speaker cover. Hope this helps.

There are several ‘crystal balls’ out rhere - each showing it’s own rumours.

M🤥M

@BEOVOX141

Why not just ask your (read: a) dealer, if you can purchase the Sound Center on it’s own....

....that would calm down the discussion.

MM

Millemissen:

Why not just ask your (read: a) dealer, if you can purchase the Sound Center on it’s own....

It wouldn't make sense, since my dealer has the complete combo at almost the same price as the soundbar is listed at.

However "a dealer" hinted at it actually will be available for sale separately.

Imagine how versatile that soundbar would have been, had B&O stuck to the Bsys 2/3/4 approach. The biggest mistake ever.

BEOVOX141:

Imagine how versatile that soundbar would have been, had B&O stuck to the Bsys 2/3/4 approach. The biggest mistake ever.

Could you evaluate that statement, please!

MM

Millemissen:

BEOVOX141:

Imagine how versatile that soundbar would have been, had B&O stuck to the Bsys 2/3/4 approach. The biggest mistake ever.

Could you evaluate that statement, please!

MM

The pipe and slipper crowd would argue that Bsys 2-4 brought value to the picture. That's no longer required (or possible?). Bsys 2-4 required a center speaker which B&O no longer make. Soundcenter would be great for ticking all the boxes if you want to be a B&O future.  

 

I am just wondering, where the ‘mistake’ is?

MM

Keep at it,- it should keep you busy for a while

BEOVOX141:

Keep at it,- it should keep you busy for a while

Thanks - that was exactly the answer I expected....so, no need to keep on being busy.

There are more important things in life.

MM

Millemissen:

I am just wondering, where the ‘mistake’ is?

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

My take - and if it’s a mistake or not depends on your viewpoint - the BeoSystem 1/2/3 provided a bridge between the pipe and slippers legacy B&O equipment. The BeoSystem 4 dropped the ML connection, and the lack of a BeoSystem 5 opens the divide between old and new systems even more.

These BeoSystems allowed the owner to link existing products to the screen of your choice. The rapidly changing environment of video technology allowed this flexibility to be a huge asset because you can change our the display device without a great penalty.

So B&O decided to go in a different direction. Less wires, more wireless. No more direct support for the older Masterlink tech. Fully integrated screen/ processors only. So that tends to leave a lot of legacy equipment on its own without a compelling case to seek replacement with new technology that can outperform it. Instead, some of the new products seem to suffer UI, stability, connectivity, and longevity issues.

That wouldn’t be as much of an issue if the products were inexpensive - if they fail, throw them out - but that is also not the approach taken. If you look at the awesome Beolab 50, nobody is complaining about the sound quality, they seem to feel let down by the app and connectivity issues. It seems it would work better in a wired environment and some local, on-speaker control.

So if this (no BeoSystem 5) is one or a series of mistakes is a matter of debate and depends on your point of view.

I doubt in the future we’ll be looking back at this period of B&O products as a golden era like some view the 70s - 00s. I’m hopeful they will be able to turn the corner and find their way to success again. In the meantime, I’ll do my part to continue to buy used equipment from my dealer to help boost trade-in values.

There can't be a golden era in the way that there was.

I'm not sure why people still hold out hope for this. That's not to say they can't design cool products.

But a lot of things that could once justify the price premium have disappeared.

They don't have a lead in multi room audio, where perhaps they once did. 

Design wise, television forms have collapsed into nothing but a thin panel. And video processing has become more complex, and better now left to the brands that can lean on their relationships with Hollywood colouring studios to push that forward. There is nothing B&O can offer here.

And when it comes to control interfaces, voice will become as important as other interfaces, so they have to lean on Google, Alexa, Siri etc, and that is not an experience fully under B&O's control. Even where they do have control, i.e. the B&O app, it's a weak experience, with a not well thought out GUI.

They can of course still design some damn nice looking and sounding speakers, and that's still a big USP. 

All of which is irrelevant though if their software experience continues to be sketchy