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Beolab 50 and Turntables - Is the sound digitised

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Puncher
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Puncher replied on Wed, Jul 3 2019 3:08 PM

Geoff Martin:

One last thing...

To answer the question posed in the topic of this thread:

yes.

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Cheers
-geoff 

I would say Yes, if he means an all analogue signal path, and No if he means "sounds non-analogue" (whatever that is)

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Jeff replied on Wed, Jul 3 2019 4:12 PM

Puncher:

Yes but this is authentic analogue crosstalk!Laughing

Big Smile

And analog surface noise!

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Hi Geoff,

Thank you! DM'ed you again, but just in case, my public email address is mikipedi4@gmail.com Big Smile

 

Thanks again in advance.

 

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Hi geoff,

I don’t know where my messages are going, sent another 3 now, 2 to this thread(with questions) and sent you another DM. Just in case, iam now trying via the app, one of my email adresses is mikipedi4@gmail.com Big Smile

Thank you in advance.

Michael

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Jul 3 2019 8:49 PM
I am waiting for my 50s to be delivered. Thank you very much Geoff for all of the information you provided here. Makes me even more eager for them to arrive. Thanks again!

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PM'ed you once again Geoff, Thanks in advance!

michael

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Jeff replied on Wed, Jul 3 2019 10:04 PM

Er der ikke en bog 'Røv kysse dansk For begyndere?'

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Jeff:

Er der ikke en bog 'Røv kysse dansk For begyndere?'

Nice try 😂

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Geoff Martin:

apologies for using this forum to send a PM... but...

@mikipidia: I'm trying to respond to your message via an internal email via BeoWorld, but you seem to have that feature disabled. Send me a PM when you have enabled it and I'll answer you.

cheers
-geoff 

Hej Geoff,

should that fail, here is his email: mikipedi4@gmail.com 

(One that he himself has published here in his Beotalk thread).

Hilsen

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Mikipidia replied on Wed, Jul 3 2019 10:45 PM
Hi Geoff

What Millemissen said is correct, and thanks for that MM. I posted several times on here and pm’ed you(geoff) twice I think(within a few mins of your post) and tried to post on the thread but nothing seems to pop up. I don’t know what’s going on..Huh?

So yes, one of my email adresses is: mikipedi4@gmail.com

Thank you both!

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Mikipidia:

Hi Geoff,

Thanks for dropping some knowledge on us, I stand corrected in my assumption.

May I ask though, why does the product page on the website list lab 50's as having 1 dsp and the lab 90's as having two of them? And what's the difference there?

Also in both whitepapers the dsp' are listed as the same in both speakers at the same frequency but when you look up the part nr the ones in the 90's run at 450Mhz vs 400Mhz in the 50's, is this a copy paste thing or are they the same?

Thank you in advance!

Michael/Mikipedia

The reason the 50 has 1 DSP and the 90 has 2 is firstly due to the fact that the 90 has more than twice the number of loudspeaker drivers and therefore needs to do more processing.

In addition to this, in the 90, part of the audio processing is actually running 2 times in parallel - sometimes... This is so that, when you switch from one directivity to another (say, narrow to wide), for a short time, both directivities are being simultaneously calculated in the DSP and the loudspeakers crossfade smoothly from one to another. In comparison, in the 50, when you change between directivities, the loudspeakers fade out, load the new coefficients, and fade back in - so there's a "break" in the sound.

Regarding the differences in clock speeds, the answer is "I don't know". It's probably due to system optimisation by the SW & HW teams. If there is an error anywhere, it's probably in the Technical Sound Guide. (that's the problem with being the writer and the editor... it's harder to see your own mistakes than it is to admit you even make them in the first place...) I'll check on this and, if it's an error, fix it for the next release of the document.

Cheers
-geoff

 

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