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One or two beolab receiver 1 in this setup?

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JensT
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JensT Posted: Tue, Aug 20 2019 1:48 PM

Hi,

Im looking into expanding my livingroom setup with surround speakers.

I like the size and look of the Beolab 4000 - and the price.

The only downside is that they are not wisa combatible. 

As im using an Avant with wisa built in i’ve been thinking about using the Beolab receiver 1 to make them "wierless". 

So, to my question, is it possible to use only 1 receiver and daisy chain the beolab 4000 with powerlink?

Also wondering if the speakers will turn off/on with the TV using the receiver?

kuyttendaele
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Each speaker must have it's own receiver...

Karel.

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To add to Karels answer, one receiver can only output one channel of audio. If you want both Beolab 4000 to play the same thing, then you could only buy one and daisy chain.

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I’m using two beolab receivers with my two Beolab 8000 rear surround speakers and wisa on my BV11, and yes - the speakers turns on and off together with the BV11.

Best regards - Dyssegaard

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You need one receiver per speaker

Because when you are setting up your WISA speaker on the Avant it will ask to make each one a speaker role

Therefore you set one up for the right rear and the other for the left rear

You can associate the BL4000 as the speaker as well so the signal is perfect for your speakers.

That’s what I have done with BL3s

And they will switch off when you turn your Avant off.

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StKong replied on Wed, Feb 19 2020 4:00 PM
I have searched high and low for an answer, so hopefully you guys can help me:

Will I be able to daisychain two speakers, i.e. BL4000, from one Beolab Receiver 1?

I am talking solely an ordinary stereo setup, and my question is whether the unit receives both left and right from the transmitter.

So it will boil down to whether a single receiver unit is capable of making a stereo feed. My logic tells me it would, but I have been wrong before.

I have a transmitter currently running Beolab 17s, but I’m considering a new use case to eliminate cabling to an adjacent room (the 17s In that case be used in a wired setup elsewhere).

Your experience and advice would be greatly appreciated!
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kallasr replied on Wed, Feb 19 2020 4:39 PM
For stereo you need two receivers, one per channel...

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BeoMedia replied on Sun, Aug 30 2020 9:07 PM

I am researching the exact same thing and I have read your replies. However I am still a little puzzled as to why the BeoLab Receiver 1 would only receive one channel for the following reasons:

1) the User manual for the BeoLab Receiver 1 does not mention that you would need to specifically set the connected BeoLab to either L or R channel. It suggests that it is like connecting to a normal powerlink connection that would contain both left and right signal. Had it only the ability to output one signal I would have expected the user manual to read along the lines of “always set the connected BeoLab speaker to R”. 
2) from what looks like a reputable seller on eBay is for sale a cable that will do exactly this, split the RJ45 powerlink output of the BeoLab Receiver 1 to a left and right connection.  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/233290852668

any further thoughts on this? Has anyone actually tried to daisy chain two BeoLab speakers connected to a single BeoLab receiver 1 and how did it work?

i intend to use it for a pair of BeoLab 4000 speakers to a BeoVision 11 with inbuilt wisa.  
(The Dealer may play it save to recommend to purchase two receivers as this should always work just as it will work to wire two BeoLab speakers with two separate cables from  the source tv or stereo). 

many thanks beomedia  

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BeoMedia:

1) the User manual for the BeoLab Receiver 1 does not mention that you would need to specifically set the connected BeoLab to either L or R channel. It suggests that it is like connecting to a normal powerlink connection that would contain both left and right signal. Had it only the ability to output one signal I would have expected the user manual to read along the lines of “always set the connected BeoLab speaker to R”.

Hi Beomedia,

I think it is easier to understand the channel mapping if you read the User Guide for the Transmitter 1. This makes it clear that for every (2 channel) Powerlink input socket on the T1, it connects to two receivers, whether they be inside the BL17/18/19 etc., or in the Receiver 1 device.

The reason the Receiver 1 Guide doesn’t talk about setting the switch on the BeoLab to L or R is that it simply doesn’t matter. The channel mapping is done in the transmitter.

I haven’t connected my 2 x Receiver 1s yet, but I’ve used Transmitter 1 with BL17s and this is the observed behaviour.

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Lareny replied on Sat, May 15 2021 10:00 AM

But of course it is one receiver per one speaker as it would be too "smart of B&O" to actually make the daisy-chain process work for this after they made it work for wired speakers.

And if they had thought about daisy chaining it (at least for a surround sound speakers set up) this would have been nixed by the Italian marketing department and CEO as they wouldn't make a lot oif money that way.Big Smile

I have a setup but didn't go the B&O way, instead I bought the Almando Multiplay Surround Decoder 2 with the WiSA module, but ended up hardwiring the BeoLab5 mains, a BeoLab2 subwoofer, a BeoLab 7.6 center channel speaker and my BeoLab 8000's as the  "surround speakers". Thanks to the Almando app, it all fires up nicely...............so far!Laughing

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Tifoso48 replied on Sun, May 16 2021 3:39 PM

I am using 4000 with Receiver 1 and for sure you will need one Receiver per speaker.

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perjar replied on Fri, Aug 20 2021 12:57 PM

I am considering to get the same Almando decoder and connect some speakers via cable and some via WISA.

I will use BL4000 as surround speakers. One of them will be in a place where I can't pull a powerlink cable so I plan to use the Receiver 1 to connect it to the Almando.

To my question: Can I  have a mix of PL and WISA connected speakers in the set up or will that introduce imbalances and delays? For instance left satellite via PL and right satellite via WISA. Will it work?

 

 

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