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Hi,
I've just bought second hand B&O Ouverture and it seems that during transportation, something happened to the cables opening the glass doors. I found service manual but to be honest it is not clear how to repair it or how complicated it is.
I'm tempted to do it by myself instead of taking it to repair centre, where reparation cost probably will be equal to its value.
Maybe someone has got experience with putting wires/cables in order and can guide me through the reparation process?
Thank you for your help in advance!
Max
I fixed by myself!!! If someone need any advice regarding wiring system, please let me know!
God job Max, I may come back to you shortly, my doors are squiking, making funny sounds, will have to open to check and lubricate.
And thank you for the update.
Collecting Vintage B&O is not a hobby, its a lifestyle.
No problem, I'll guide you step by step ;-)
Max: No problem, I'll guide you step by step ;-)
I forgot, we love pics, and welcome to the forum.
Hi Max and Season's Greetings !
I have an Ouverture and during the last 2 weeks the doors do not close as fast as before. When they start to close they stop almost half way throught and then they close very slowly. Sometimes do not close all the way as well. Note that the ouverture remained always in the same location. (Not damaged during transport). Please advice. Spiros.
Welcome.
I was sure it was the open-close-open-close by a ghost phenomenon. So did a cable jump loose or?
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Hi, i have an Beocenter 2500 that the doors wont close the entire way, they open fine but when to close they go about 30% and then stop.
Any idea how I fix this?
I tried to open the entire beocenter but did not succed
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Ok but how do i get the Beocenter open, i removed the screws but couldent get it open anyway.
Opening isn't easy task and requires some patience. Just unscrew all screws and then carefully take front panels and than back cover. You will find some instructions on youtube and on the forum. There could be problem with wire, rolls or sliding mechanism. In order to diagnose you need to disassemble your unit and observe how it works and what is the reason it stops.
Good luck!
I can show you how to open the rear cover and to rewire the glass door the easy way. Then I have to make lots of pictures :-) First start to remove the glass door and then the left and right black covers. You need to use some force but gentle or else some plastic clips wil break.
Brengen & Ophalen
I once fixed sluggish doors the really easy way. Remove the doors, then use a Q-Tip (cotton bud) moistened with Windex (or your cleanser of choice) to thoroughly clean the top and bottom slider tracks. Then spray silicone lubricant into the tracks. I insert a very thin tube into the nozzle to prevent spraying where you don't want to. Put the doors back on and you're done. With a little luck they'll now slide smoothly.
Ok thanks guys i now got it open in the front, and what i can see is nothing really broken on it, i will do as MediaBobNY suggest and clean it carefully and then put som lubricant on the two white wheels and the tracks.
The picture shows what i see.
Most of the times when doors are not running smoothly is because the doors are not aligned properly.
You can fix that by adjusting the string clamps inside the unit on the top and bottom. Therefore you have to remove the PSU unit to get acces at the bottom part. I once made a thread how to do that but can't find it anymore
I fixed it!
The thing with lubricants did not work but then I tried the adjustment Leslie suggested and it worked perfectly!
Thaks alot for your help guys!
Told ya, enjoy! :-)
here is two videos before and after.
BEFORE:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eliasljunggren/10306824946/
AFTER:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eliasljunggren/10306749824/
To me it looks as you still need to replace the driving belt.
Hello Max,
I have a problem with the doors. They do not close or it takes a long time to close.
I know there is a sensor behind the black plates, but I do not know how to remove
the black plates. You changed the wires for the glass doors so you had to remove the
plates. I hope You can tell me how to do.
Regards Karel.
karelbeunk@gmail.com
They snap on / snap off. I once used a butter knife to gently pry them off at the outer edge.
No the belt was 100% i checked it carefully.
The little "bump" in the motion is probably from that my screwdriver was to big to adjust the bottom screw (very tight with space) so i just adjusted the top once, will buy a smaller screwdriver and adjust the bottom later. :)
Check this youtube clip then you see how to remove the black plates, it worked fine for me after viewing this :)
http://youtu.be/bcrPJcZOwfg?t=1m5s
Hi Leslie;
Can you show me how to fix these doors that only open partially??
Thank you so much,
Paul
mofobro: Hi Leslie; Can you show me how to fix these doors that only open partially?? Thank you so much, Paul
This is usually just because of dirt and dust on the bottom gliders.. You need to clean it good.. Try that firstly
/Weebyx
I've cleaned the tracks and applied a small amount of WD40, but still not operating properly.
When closed, I wave my hand in front and they open about 2 inches. I need to gently push them open all the way. They do not close automatically either... stay open.
????
If everything has been cleaned, adjusted and the belt is OK, sounds like a motor or gear problem with the mechanism. Cheap to buy but will depend on your competence to fit.
Dave.
mofobro: I've cleaned the tracks and applied a small amount of WD40, but still not operating properly. When closed, I wave my hand in front and they open about 2 inches. I need to gently push them open all the way. They do not close automatically either... stay open. ????
There are a small switch located with the motorpulley, that detects where the glassdoors are. This switch can get very dirty, and could confuse the processor as to if the doors are open or closed.
The big white wheel touches controls this switch. Clean this switch, with a piece og "thick" paper with alcohol on, this will work as sand-paper, but not as rough.
You need to take the back off the unit, and also the black panels behind the glass.
Have you tried to open and close with the glassdoors off ?
I'll try that over the weekend.
And no, I haven't tried to operate the door mechanism with the glass doors off. I'll try that as well and update you.
Thank you!
:-((
Where is the small switch and the motor pulley? And the big white wheel? when I take the glass pannels off, it works normally. Thanks!
Had to register to say thanks to Messiman and Leslie .. Just had the same problem with my 2500, Leslie's fix worked a treat :)
This has left me very disappointed with B&O here in Malaysia though... They quoted me RM 2200 to fix it (over $500 US) Shame on them !!
Hello Max and Hello to Warsaw (I'm born there long time ago),
I have an old but working B&O Overture and took the glass doors apart to clean them. When I install them again, they didn't open or close. What I made wrong and how I can fix it. An advise is highly appreciate.
My Email is: LRomanowiczdr@centurylink.net
Thanks and regards from Florida.
Leo
Hi Leo,
sorry for comming back so late. Could you please describe the problem in details? Can you hear the motor is working or the doors stuck somwhere? It might be not the mechanical problem but IR sensor/move sensor.
Best regards form Warsaw,
I am new to this forum and I‘ve found this topic via google search. I have exactly the same problem. I‘ve managed to take off the glass doors and the two black covers with the help of this forum and youtube. Now it seems that the wire which moves the doors is to loose. There is a section in the service manual which describes the adjustment of the wires but I can‘t understand the steps. Could somebody help me to perform the steps? Do you need a photo? Thank you very much in advance!
Max,
Abusing of your offering, can you tell me how I must attached the two sides of the cable to the white wheels or wherever?
I have not been able to find any single picture of where the small balls goes!
Thanks so much
Hi Alvar and Bienvenido en Beoworld,
Below is the picture of the service manual giving the right path of the cable thought the different pulleys.
The little balls goes into the hole in the mail pulley and act as a stop to secure the cable into the main pulley.Please see picture in page one of this topic for reference.
Two things to notice though: - the wire can be quite difficult to put and keep in place on the corner pulleys while trying to fit them back.I succeed in it so it's possible but it's quite long and need a lot of fiddling.
- There's a "reverse loop" trick to fix the wire to the main pulley. I'm sorry i can't say much more as i did it a long time ago.You will find it by carefully observing the grooves on the pulley. I remember i spend a lot of time to secure the cable and when i found the trick it was just like - put the ball in the hole, just turn the pulley and "ya esta", the wire just jump to it's position.
Again, I'm sorry for being unable to give you more details, but all this to tell you it's complicated but still possible.
You'll also need to stick the metal hooks to the glass doors. You'll need two component epoxy glue. Trying to glue the hooks in a way they do not misaligned the doors will be the tricky part. You'll find plenty of information by searching the forum.
Hope this help and good luck with it.