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Forester1 Posted: Mon, Dec 9 2019 1:36 PM

I bought the new Beosound Stage online. It was delivered on Wednesday 27 November. I quickly reported sound problems - tiny but regular and annoying soundbreaks or flutter. After days of slow responses B&O decided on 3 December that the Stage should be returned for a full refund. Six days on and despite several ignored reminders I am still waiting for return information and postage labels. B&O need to sort out their online customer support system.


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BOBrb replied on Mon, Dec 9 2019 4:17 PM

It's not possible for you to contact a local dealer ?

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BOBrb:

It's not possible for you to contact a local dealer ?

Not if it was bought online, separate companies and different return process etc.
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My local dealer has passed an email I wrote to him on to the boss of the UK B&O operation about the problems I have experienced.

I’m still waiting.

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Jeff replied on Mon, Dec 9 2019 6:56 PM

Here in the US, try finding a dealer. The nearest one to me is over a days drive away. If I wanted a Stage, the only reasonable way to get it would be online sales.

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moxxey replied on Mon, Dec 9 2019 9:28 PM

Forester1:

My local dealer has passed an email I wrote to him on to the boss of the UK B&O operation about the problems I have experienced.

This isn't going to help, apologies, but the point the dealer was making above was that dealers do not earn from a direct-to-B&O purchase, so should never be turned to for a 'I bought this online, can you make the effort to help (for free!)?'. Just bear in mind if the local dealer does help, he's not made a cent from the purchase and is doing it as he doesn't want to see someone suffer from poor service from the brand.

Always buy from your local dealer if you can! I'm not sure I'd ever spend over £1000 on someone online which is the same price from the high street, with post-sale support.

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Forester1 replied on Tue, Dec 10 2019 2:21 PM

I didn’t turn to my dealer for support about my online problem. It so happened that he mentioned them to the UK boss who in turn asked me to email details of my experience. 
Further developments. The online returns system doesn’t work because B&O have not yet included the Beosound Stage among the list of models on their system. My return has to be processed manually by HQ. It is said that they are very busy at the moment. It must be very busy since it is now ten days since I first requested a return and refund. All I need is their return address and postage label! 

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Esax replied on Tue, Dec 10 2019 4:47 PM
Wow, and I just bougth one to my wife.

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Evan replied on Tue, Dec 10 2019 6:32 PM
moxxey:

Always buy from your local dealer if you can! I'm not sure I'd ever spend over £1000 on someone online which is the same price from the high street, with post-sale support.

Best advice. Of course if there is a dealer you can find nearby that is convenient for you.

I had a friend buy a BeoLit 17 from B&O online. Turned out to be a sour grape and he struggled through the rough customer service that came with his online purchase in order to exchange it. I told him to go to a dealer in the first place, of which I think he had more than 1 to choose from in his metro area!

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w5bno123 replied on Tue, Dec 10 2019 8:05 PM
Have you updated the software or done a factory reset? Is it wirelessly or hard wired to a network or is the sound drop from a video output, if so what TV is it connected too? With some non B&O TV’s you need to switch off the TV’s internal speaker to fully enable HDMI ARC output.

Did you purchase from B&O directly or through a third party reseller?

We haven’t experienced any technical issues with the Stage so far. It’s a great product, maybe it just needs some technical attention with installation?

Best wishes
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Beobuddy replied on Tue, Dec 10 2019 9:25 PM

I'm also curious how the Stage was set up. I've experimented a lot with the Stage at different locations and haven't had any dropouts. But all the Stages were hardwired to the network. 

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Forester1 replied on Wed, Dec 11 2019 5:50 AM

The problem is that  the HDMI ARC is incompatible with the HDMI ARC on my new LG TV model. That is the opinion of my B&O dealer from whom I had bought another stage.  And I prefer the TV more than the Stage. So I will look for other options.

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Forester1 replied on Wed, Dec 11 2019 5:57 AM

I set up the stage I bought online. ARC to ARC and wi fi. My dealer didn’t change anything with the one I bought from him. He accepted a return immediately. I’m still waiting to hear from B&O about my first purchase, packed and ready to go back one day.

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Forester1 replied on Wed, Dec 11 2019 5:57 AM

I set up the stage I bought online. ARC to ARC and wi fi. My dealer didn’t change anything with the one I bought from him. He accepted a return immediately. I’m still waiting to hear from B&O about my first purchase, packed and ready to go back one day.

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Forester1 replied on Wed, Dec 11 2019 5:57 AM

I set up the stage I bought online. ARC to ARC and wi fi. My dealer didn’t change anything with the one I bought from him. He accepted a return immediately. I’m still waiting to hear from B&O about my first purchase, packed and ready to go back one day.

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Forester1 replied on Wed, Dec 11 2019 5:59 AM

Set up? I followed instructions. Connected by Wi Fi.

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Forester1 replied on Wed, Dec 11 2019 6:00 AM

Don’t know how the multiple posts were done!

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What model LG tv how you bought?

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1990 replied on Wed, Dec 11 2019 9:59 AM

Forester1:
The problem is that  the HDMI ARC is incompatible with the HDMI ARC on my new LG TV model. That is the opinion of my B&O dealer from whom I had bought another stage.

Can you specify which LG-model you have?

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Forester1 replied on Wed, Dec 11 2019 10:11 AM

I bought two identical TVs. And neither worked either with the Stage I bought online or the one I bought from my local dealer. They were among the cheapest of the LG TVs - LG49um7400PLB. And I have no wish to replace them with another LG model. It should not be necessary.

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1990 replied on Wed, Dec 11 2019 10:26 AM

Some questions:

* Does it happen to all sources (tv tuner, hdmi sources and internal apps)? Sometimes the internal apps are not returned through ARC.

* Did you connect the HDMI-cable to HDMI 2?
* Did you use a high speed HDMI-Cable?

* Did you put Sound Output to ARC?
* Did you enable LG Simplink?

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Forester1 replied on Wed, Dec 11 2019 12:41 PM

It's interesting to know you have questions to ask. B&O simply asked me to explain the problem which I did as fully as I thought necessary. They asked no questions or made any suggestions. They simply decided to ask me to return the Stage for a full refund. My local dealer sent round a guy to see if he could sort out the problem with the Stage they supplied and concluded that the ARC connections were the problem and that the TV was "at fault" But when two products are not compatible because they adopt slightly different ARC standards, who's at fault?

 

Here are my answers. Not in your order:

I used the cable supplied by B&O. My dealer tried his own high speed cable. Had no effect.

The sound output was set to ARC - the HDMI 2 socket on the TV.

Have no idea what the LG Sampling is. Not something mention by my dealer.

The only sources I used were my TV and Blu Ray player.

When we connected the Blu Ray player to the other HDMI socket on the stage, there was no problem. When I streamed music by blue tooth there was no problem. I didn't try the 3.5mm connection. I saw little point.

I use Sky Q with my TV. Everything coming  through the SKY Q had the same sound interference - normal programmes, Netflix, Youtube etc.

Thanks for your interest.

Still waiting to hear from B&O. Perhaps they are on strike.

 

 

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Forester1 replied on Wed, Dec 11 2019 12:46 PM

Sorry about the wrong spelling!

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1990 replied on Wed, Dec 11 2019 1:04 PM

Forester1:
I use Sky Q with my TV. Everything coming  through the SKY Q had the same sound interference - normal programmes, Netflix, Youtube etc.

Did you use Sky Q with its own set top box? Maybe the solution can be found to use the HDMI IN on the Stage? Otherwise it can be that the Tuner from the LG does not properly process the sound going via ARC.

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Forester1 replied on Wed, Dec 11 2019 2:57 PM

My SKY Q box is connected to HDMI 1 on my TV. The fundamental point of using the ARC from the TV to the ARC on the stage is to optimise its benefits.

 

For me, this whole business is now academic because I have returned the second Stage to the dealer. I just hope very few people have a similar problem.

 

When I eventually hear back from B&O about returning their Stage, I will update this thread. Still no sign of life.

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Forester1 replied on Sat, Dec 14 2019 5:06 AM

Still waiting.

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Forester1:

Still waiting.

Is there a number you can call them on?

Looks like they’ve forgotten you.

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Forester1 replied on Sat, Dec 14 2019 7:01 PM

I have phoned them three times and exchanged several messages and emails. But nothing from them since 3 December. I posted a DM to them on Twitter. That contact is trying to help but still no resolution.

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