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I have bought a 3500 speaker, and am unsure how to connect it to my system. Do I need a BeoLink junction box for connection of cables? The speaker is upstairs, so would need about 20 metres of cable, if I understand this correctly. Have I got this right, and if so, where can I acquire such a box?
Lennart Hildeman:I have bought a 3500 speaker, and am unsure how to connect it to my system. Do I need a BeoLink junction box for connection of cables? The speaker is upstairs, so would need about 20 metres of cable, if I understand this correctly. Have I got this right, and if so, where can I acquire such a box?
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Hi Lennart,
It all depends on what system you are trying to connect the speaker to. Your system will need to have Masterlink or Master Control Link ( the BL3500 is compatible with either). Whichever one you are connecting to uses a different cable and different connectors.
As Hiort says if you are using Masterlink and you need to cut the cable you need the junction box to re-join it. The junction boxes are not not compatible with Master Control Link.
Stoobie
I have got a black box, 10x20 cm, that connects the TV to the system, so I don't really know how to proceed with that, and yes, the MCL runs through the ceiling up into the loft, where it connects with the two rooms that have speakers, CX in the kitchen, and 4500 in the bedroom. The 3500 is upstairs, so yes, I will have to cut whatever cable I run from the 6500-7000 system through a hole the ceiling. So far, I have used 'sockerbitar' to connect to the other rooms from the loft, but am planning to get a Masterlink Junction Box, genuine B&O part from Soundsheavenly to tidy the arrangenment up a bit. So my question is: how can I connect the 3500, seeing as I already have the 10x20 masterlink box for the TV?
Sorry; I don't really know the difference between Masterlink and MCL. I think what I have is MCL, since that was the term for the cable that I have run from the BM7000. How can I tell the difference, please?
Lennart Hildeman: SZorry; I don't really know the difference between Masterlink and MCL. I think what I have is MCL, since that was the term for the cable that I have run from the BM7000. How can I tell the difference, please?
SZorry; I don't really know the difference between Masterlink and MCL. I think what I have is MCL, since that was the term for the cable that I have run from the BM7000. How can I tell the difference, please?
Masterlink look like this
MCL look like this
The plug is the easiest way to tell. Round is MCL and the flat oblong is Masterlink
OK, so I have a Masterlink connecting the BV7-40 to the 10x20 box that connects to the BM7000 with an MCL, so we can leave that aside, cna't we? To get to the 3500 upstairs, I would just need the Masterlink at one end, and attach the wires at the other end to the 'sockerbit' in the loft, right, assuming that the wiring in the cable is the same?
Well, posting within Sweden would obviously be easier than sending for it from England, so yes, I am interested.
Hiort: Lennart Hildeman: I have bought a 3500 speaker, and am unsure how to connect it to my system. Do I need a BeoLink junction box for connection of cables? The speaker is upstairs, so would need about 20 metres of cable, if I understand this correctly. Have I got this right, and if so, where can I acquire such a box? Assuming it’s a Beolab 3500, you need a Masterlink cable to connect it to your system. The Junctionboxes are used if you need cut the cable to e.g run the cable through a wall. I have a few junctionboxes here in Sweden if you are interested.
Lennart Hildeman: I have bought a 3500 speaker, and am unsure how to connect it to my system. Do I need a BeoLink junction box for connection of cables? The speaker is upstairs, so would need about 20 metres of cable, if I understand this correctly. Have I got this right, and if so, where can I acquire such a box?
Assuming it’s a Beolab 3500, you need a Masterlink cable to connect it to your system. The Junctionboxes are used if you need cut the cable to e.g run the cable through a wall.
I have a few junctionboxes here in Sweden if you are interested.
So it sounds like you have a hybrid system with MCL from your Beomaster 7000 and a Beolink convertor to you Beovision 7 which converts your TV Masterlink to MCL to connect to the Beomaster.
I don't think you can use that junction box to tidy up the MCL cabling as I don't think it is compatible.
The Beolab 3500 is both Masterlink or MCL compatible. So you can connect using MCL or Masterlink cabling. You need to set the speaker in the settings to MCL or Masterlink depending which you choose. See this link for more information https://www.beoworld.org/faq_view.asp?id=80
I'm not sure if you can join the Beolab 3500 to the Masterlink between your TV and the convertor, but if you can, then that junction box will work there.
Lennart Hildeman: OK, so I have a Masterlink connecting the BV7-40 to the 10x20 box that connects to the BM7000 with an MCL, so we can leave that aside, cna't we? To get to the 3500 upstairs, I would just need the Masterlink at one end, and attach the wires at the other end to the 'sockerbit' in the loft, right, assuming that the wiring in the cable is the same?
Sorry to add more. I now understand sockerbit You cannot mix MCL cables/connections and Masterlink cables /connections.
You need to choose if you want the speaker connected via MCL or Masterlink and connect into that section of cables in your system.
So, if you are going to connect your Beolab 3500 into the MCL cabling, you will need to get cable with the round plug on one end and connect to the round MCL socket on the speaker and then connect the other end using the above sockerbit connectors.
If you decide to use Masterlink you will have to cut the cable between the TV and convertor box and then buy the junction box you began this thread with. You will then need to buy Masterlink cable with 1 plug and then join that with the 2 cut ends using the Masterlink junction box.
I hope this assists.
Assuming your ‘new’ BL3500 has only the ML port, you will have to use (read: split) the ML cable, that now runs between your BV7 and the converter (that you call a 10x20 box).
You must find the best place to cut that cable and join the new ML cable with the two ends with bare wires, that you have when cutting.
Of cource you could do that with ‘sukkerknalder’, but I would recommend using the original junction box.
If you have never done this before, be prepared to have sufficient cable lengths to work with.....you might not succeed first time.
I you don’t feel comfortable about this, try to find someone, who has done that before.
If the 3500 should be an older type with additional MCL socket, you could instead use the existing MCL cabling and daisychain/add another MCL cable.
It might be easier depending on where the cabling is located.
For this however, you’d have to purchase the right lenght of MCL cable etc.
I guess the easiest way to get things done is to use the ML cable and a junction box!
Please remember to unplug the ML cables from the ‘10x20 box’/the converter and the BV7, when you work on the junction.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Lennart Hildeman:Well, posting within Sweden would obviously be easier than sending for it from England, so yes, I am interested.
Millemissen: Assuming your ‘new’ BL3500 has only the ML port, you will have to use (read: split) the ML cable, that now runs between your BV7 and the converter (that you call a 10x20 box). You must find the best place to cut that cable and join the new ML cable with the two ends with bare wires, that you have when cutting. Of cource you could do that with ‘sukkerknalder’, but I would recommend using the original junction box. If you have never done this before, be prepared to have sufficient cable lengths to work with.....you might not succeed first time. I you don’t feel comfortable about this, try to find someone, who has done that before. If the 3500 should be an older type with additional MCL socket, you could instead use the existing MCL cabling and daisychain/add another MCL cable. It might be easier depending on where the cabling is located. For this however, you’d have to purchase the right lenght of MCL cable etc. I guess the easiest way to get things done is to use the ML cable and a junction box! Please remember to unplug the ML cables from the ‘10x20 box’/the converter and the BV7, when you work on the junction. MM
Got the 3500 off the wall today, and it’s got the MCL, right next to the Masterlink. Now I just have to find me ten metres of MCL cable and a plug. The other problem seems to have sorted itself, though I have to press MUTE in the main room to get sound. The other two rooms work perfectly. Now I just have to figure out what you mean by daisychain...
So when speaking of B&O daisy chain usually refers to PowerLink where the cable caries both left and right signals and you run one cable to where the speakers are, then a short cable from one speaker to the other using the two PowerLink sockets in most active speakers.
Daisychaining can also refer to ML and MCL, because you can connect to each component in turn (in a 'chain') rather than connecting each component back to a central source. It's easy to do with MCL cable becauser there are so few conductors - you can simply use a 7 way terminal block to connect more cabling as required.
EDIT: Sorry, didn't see more recent posts above (was stuck on page 1 of the thread) - you seem to have it all covered!
That is not what is meant here.
Lennart will - if he goes for the MCL solution - simply have to add the new cable to the MCL2A box where the MCL cable from the BeoSystem already is mounted - see picture.
Personaly I would only go for that solution, if it is much easier to install than adding a ML cable to the existing ML chain (using a junction box).
Millemissen: That is not what is meant here.
That comment related to stoobies post.
Guy has explained it well!