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Mikipidia:I Also 50’s won’t have their active room comp in wisa, just be aware of that
Also 50’s won’t have their active room comp in wisa, just be aware of that
This is not entirely true. It is more correct to say that only a portion of the ARC is functioning when using a WiSA connection to a pair of BeoLab 50s or 90s. This is because, in order for ARC to work at its maximum potential, each loudspeaker has to receive both audio channels. Since the WiSA receivers are one-channel only, then the ARC is not getting all of the information about the incoming signal that it needs to do a complete job.
However, I would say that it's doing more than half the job, depending on the coherence of the two audio channels. If you only listen to monophonic music, then you will not notice a difference at all. If you only listen to recordings done in very large reverberant spaces that were captured using a Blumlein or a very widely spaced omni mic technique, then your ARC will be running at something like 50% - 70% (although using percentages for something like this doesn't really make any sense at all...)
Cheers-geoff
Geoff Martin:This is not entirely true. It is more correct to say that only a portion of the ARC is functioning when using a WiSA connection to a pair of BeoLab 50s or 90s. This is because, in order for ARC to work at its maximum potential, each loudspeaker has to receive both audio channels. Since the WiSA receivers are one-channel only, then the ARC is not getting all of the information about the incoming signal that it needs to do a complete job.However, I would say that it's doing more than half the job, depending on the coherence of the two audio channels. If you only listen to monophonic music, then you will not notice a difference at all. If you only listen to recordings done in very large reverberant spaces that were captured using a Blumlein or a very widely spaced omni mic technique, then your ARC will be running at something like 50% - 70% (although using percentages for something like this doesn't really make any sense at all...) Cheers -geoff
Hi,
I just checked with a couple of people here about this question, since I was a little concerned about it...
This system will unfortunately not work as a surround configuration due to latency mismatches. The BeoLab 50's have (in Low Latency mode) a 25 ms delay, whereas the BeoLab 17's have a 4.4 ms delay, and the Receiver + BeoLab 10 has a <1 ms delay. This is on top of the WiSA latency, which will be the same for all three device types (the BL50's, BL17's and the Receiver).
This means that, in cases where you have the same signals on the L/R front and centre (or surround) then the BeoLab 50's will sound like an echo.
You could "fake" the latency compensation with a delay control - but this is currently not available in the LG television's menus (which is where it would have to be), as far as I know.
Cheers-Geoff
In low latency mode, the BeoLab 50's have a throughput delay of 25 ms. This is equivalent to a distance of 8.6 m. So, all of your other loudspeakers will have to wait for the BeoLab 50's.
Setting the distance in the 50's will only account for the differences in distance between the two of them, and this can only make one of them later (the other will be set to a 0 ms offset). So, this will not work.
I have never used the Axiim, so I don't know whether you can add the required delay to the 3 other loudspeakers to time-align to the 50's. Once you get it, I'd be curious to know whether it does.
As far as I know, the TV does not have a speaker distance adjustment in its menus - although this might have changed in a SW update since the last time I checked, so again, I'm curious to know, once you get it.
Assuming that you CAN enter a distance adjustment in either the TV or the WiSA transmitter, then this page should help you in the setup process.
If you can't adjust the distances in either the TV or the WiSA transmitter, then you will have the echo with SOME types of signals when you're playing in multichannel. Of course, if a particular signal is not played simultaneously in channels, then you don't hear the echo (e.g. dialogue on the centre channel, music in the L/R and rain effects in the surrounds). However, if channels are sharing signals (e.g. crowd noises in centre AND left and right) then you'll hear an echo if the signals are transient (e.g. clapping).