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Hi Guys I've been holding out for a Beogram for a Long time now. I am a giant fan of Arne Jacobsen. i'm prepared to spend a bit of cash for a good model that's in MINT condition and wanted some opinions on this one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BANG-OLUFSEN-VINTAGE-TANGENCIAL-TURNTABLE-MODEL-BEOGRAM-9500-MMC2-/181048990865?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&hash=item2a275c5c91
What do you all think? Is the model correct? is the price right for the condition? Etc?
Rob
I can't help but think that's a bit expensive...
Too long to list....
Someone has butchered the DIN plug. Not mint - too expensive.
Peter
Welcome to Beoworld !
Seeing as you are a huge fan of Arne Jacobsen, I'm sure you already know that he never did any designs for Bang & Olufsen.The Beogram 9500 was designed by Jacob Jensen.Just to set it straight.
The price ? Well, someone seems willing to pay it but I'm really not the one to advice.
Martin
Good Beograms in mint condition are expensive...
I wonder, why this one wasn`t used all the years, and if so, is it mechanically (motor, belt, cartridge...) in well working condition?
To what system do you want to connect it? BG9500 was made for BC9500 - as the number tells us...:)
It can be controlled by remote (BL1000, BL5000,BL7000, Beo4) via Datalink from your Beomaster and connected linkrooms.
Even Timerplay is possibe - depends on your system.
Beware BG9500 got NO built in RIAA preamp.
If everything is as described price around 500 - 700 GBP should be ok.
BTW: I`m also a fan of Arne Jacobsen. He made a lot of furniture like the Oxford chair, Serie 7 chair, LouisPoulsen lamps, a lot of things for Stelton...
but the designer of B&Os Beogram is Jacob Jensen.
Hope this helps
Stefan
Peter: Someone has butchered the DIN plug. Not mint - too expensive.
Didn`t notice that, sorry - so no "mint" condition...
Jacob Jensen! Ooops, boy is my face red !
So too expensive is the consensus. That's what I thought. What other forums, auction sites, or online shops are good for old Beograms?
Sorry Peter, I beg to differ!
Mint examples of this deck are as rare as rocking horse droppings and would likely make in excess of £1000.
The lid alone is worth well past £500 (it will also fit the Beogram 4500) as is the unused MMC2. They are not making any more!
The DIN plug could be replaced at minimal cost but most non B&O users will require the Phono connections (I hope there is a ground connection or it will surely hum).
I think it is "worth" the best part of £1000 as it stands. If it sells for less then the buyer has got a bargain.
Regards Graham
Graham is right, check prices for new MMC2's. It has the original packing and it looks mint. Buy a 7p DIN for a few cents and you have bargain!
Brengen & Ophalen
Wow, didn't know these sets go for that much.
bayerische: Wow, didn't know these sets go for that much.
Those good buddies at Lifestyle AV have just sold a much less desireable, marked, Beogram 8500 for £350 without a cartridge!
Add £450 for a brand new MMC2 and you can see why the near mint Beogram 9500 with MMC2 might be "worth" near £1000.
Used B&O prices are at their lowest at the moment so it will be interesting to see what it ends at.
Of course, I would not pay £500+ for a turntable, if I could not collect it and verify the description as accurate, before I parted with my £'s
I still think it's quite expensive...
I got about 220£ for a BG3500 with a MMC4, both in good condition, about two years ago, and it took quite some time to sell it!
I would never pay 450£ for a 20 year old pickup - even if brand new! It's still 20 years old, and brand new doesn't mean, that the rubber suspension hasn't dried out! You would be way better of with a refurbished pickup for under half of the 450£...
I think an almost mint BG9500 would be worth 250-350£ without pickup here in Denmark.
- Dennis
Yes, prices can be thought as crazy by some (like me who isn't a turntable guy).
I've seen BG9500 for sale for about 800 euro over here, but no takers I'm afraid.
I sold my BG9500 incl. MMC4 to a Beoworld member for 350 euro
Too expensive!
bayerische: Yes, prices can be thought as crazy by some (like me who isn't a turntable guy). I've seen BG9500 for sale for about 800 euro over here, but no takers I'm afraid.
Finnish buyers mostly do not appreciate correctness & mintiness a bit (and this isn't limited to B&O). On a lucky day, any half original, run over by a truck specimen might get the same amount than a flawless example. Partly caused by being a small market, I guess.
That particular Beogram (with butchered cabling and an MMC4) has been listed for the better part of this year, and I will be suprised if it ever gets a single bid unless the starting price is dropped to 250something...and forget about an actual sale transaction if there'll be a reserve at over 400.
I personally don't understand how being unused would be any kind of a merit for an MMC. That unused stylus will remain unused forever when the suspension fails.
As far as I remember, I paid 350€ locally for my Beogram 9500, with no blemishes I can find, unbutchered original cabling, and a good sounding straight MMC2 - and that price included a Beocenter 9500 and a clean latest model Beolink 1000. Probably would've sold for the same money even if the BC glass had been chipped, panels & lids scratched and the remote used for dog training.
Do I think these small, plastic Beograms are worth half a grand? In absolute terms, certainly not. But if you need to have one for a collection, you will need to either pay a lot, be able to fix problems yourself, or wait for a long time for a lucky bargain...
--mika
I agree with what the market is over here. And yes, it's been for sale longer than I care to remember.
I have noticed that Beogram prices on eBay have been rocketing - but these all seem to be from dealers - I would be more tempted by a dealer example as it should come with a warranty. However I don't think the late tangentials are that good and are certainly not as pretty as the 4000. I gave away my 9500 and have no regrets. Makes you wonder what my BG3000 Thorens with 12" arm is worth though!!
The 4000 is definitely the best looking one.
I'd love a 4000 - much better looking than any other turntable in my opinion.
I'm looking to buy one from my first 'big' jobs pay check... I imagine 4000's as hard to find as gold dust. I'd get one in a heartbeat but I cannot find a decent one for sale! If anybody knows of one for sale somewhere then let me know! =)
Thanks for the heads up about this one being listed for over a year on ebay too. Not buying.
Cheers/Rob
tournedos: bayerische: Yes, prices can be thought as crazy by some (like me who isn't a turntable guy). I've seen BG9500 for sale for about 800 euro over here, but no takers I'm afraid. Finnish buyers mostly do not appreciate correctness & mintiness a bit (and this isn't limited to B&O). On a lucky day, any half original, run over by a truck specimen might get the same amount than a flawless example. Partly caused by being a small market, I guess.
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bayerische: I agree with what the market is over here. And yes, it's been for sale longer than I care to remember.
I don't remember It being available on ebay.co.uk before or I should have spotted it.. Being retired from work, I am on ebay all day every day unless I have dosed off to sleep!!
Mind you, my memory is rubbish now. I can recall what happened 50 + years ago but yesterday is a different matter!
joeyboygolf: bayerische: I agree with what the market is over here. And yes, it's been for sale longer than I care to remember. I don't remember It being available on ebay.co.uk before or I should have spotted it.. Being retired from work, I am on ebay all day every day unless I have dosed off to sleep!!
We were talking about a Beogram on a Finnish auction site, not the the listing in OP's link. I wouldn't be surprised if the latter one actually sells.
tournedos: joeyboygolf: bayerische: I agree with what the market is over here. And yes, it's been for sale longer than I care to remember. I don't remember It being available on ebay.co.uk before or I should have spotted it.. Being retired from work, I am on ebay all day every day unless I have dosed off to sleep!! We were talking about a Beogram on a Finnish auction site, not the the listing in OP's link. I wouldn't be surprised if the latter one actually sells.
Sorry, I misunderstood. You will have to speak slowly, as I am English!
But it hasn't been there now for a few weeks has it?
bayerische:But it hasn't been there now for a few weeks has it?
Still there until next Friday. Yours for the first bid of 750€, I don't think there'll be much competition
tournedos: bayerische:But it hasn't been there now for a few weeks has it? Still there until next Friday. Yours for the first bid of 750€, I don't think there'll be much competition
Ahhh, didn't look too well then did I?
This has been re-listed here:-
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BANG-OLUFSEN-VINTAGE-TANGENCIAL-TURNTABLE-MODEL-BEOGRAM-9500-MMC2-/181058194547?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&hash=item2a27e8cc73
It made £470 last time.
Is this a con job???
Mmmm. Very dubious... I'd pass.
Jacques
Hi folks, i would sell my beogram 9500 in very good original condition but without cartridge for € 500.
location: Austria
Hi treb,
is it this one?
http://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-und-verkaufen/foto-tv-video-audio/bang-olufsen-b-o-beogram-9500-tangential-plattenspieler-selten-51096857?adId=51096857
br
Vintage Bang & Olufsen
Sorry I was not online for quite a long time...
no it is this one: http://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-und-verkaufen/marktplatz?keyword=beogram+9500&LPPLAYER_DETAIL=1&CATEGORY%2FSUBCATEGORY=8638&CATEGORY%2FMAINCATEGORY=8216
treb