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B&O IR and Raspberry Pi

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Stoobietoo
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Stoobietoo Posted: Tue, May 19 2020 10:02 PM

I'm looking to experiment with a Raspberry Pi and Beo 4 (or Beo 5/6) and LIRC or FLIRC for home automation and media center with KODI. Would I be able to use one of these older receivers to receive the Beo 4 signal. 

I have experimented before but with the first Raspberry Pi which wasn't up to what I wanted. I can see it will do what I want if I can use my Beo 4 to control it.

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Did you check out this thread?

https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/36717.aspx

If this IR receiver was able to receive Beo4 commands in a B&O setup, then you can use it with an arduino and a pi. All you really need is the IR receiver diode.

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Guy replied on Wed, May 20 2020 8:07 AM

crossbytje:
If this IR receiver was able to receive Beo4 commands in a B&O setup

Yes it is.  I use one daily in my MCL setup.

If you get really ambitious, you could try to use the ability of the MCL transceiver to transmit as well as receive - eg setting timers that control B&O products.

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Stoobietoo replied on Thu, May 21 2020 10:18 AM

Thank you both,

I had seen that link but hadn't read it in detail, but it shows the newer round IR reciever. I asked about this one because they are a lot cheaper to buy Whistle

I was just  going through my B&O box in th attic and found a round IR reciever I'd forgotten about. I will get my new Raspeberry Pi and start experimenting.

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Guy:

If you get really ambitious, you could try to use the ability of the MCL transceiver to transmit as well as receive - eg setting timers that control B&O products.

Guy, 

Thank you for that suggestion. I have spent today setting up my Beosystem 3 with DVD2, Humax Digital and FireTV. I have got them all working using my Beo 4 and PUC control. I have plugged in a FLIRC USB reciever in the FireTV and it works brilliantly. 

What I now need is a way to turn on the LG TV. If I can swap my round B&O IR eye for this transceiver and get it connected to the BS3 and Raspberry Pi maybe I can use it to turn the TV on and off with the Beo 4? Do you think that possible? 

Stoobie 

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Guy replied on Sun, Jun 7 2020 12:07 PM

Stoobietoo:
What I now need is a way to turn on the LG TV. If I can swap my round B&O IR eye for this transceiver and get it connected to the BS3 and Raspberry Pi maybe I can use it to turn the TV on and off with the Beo 4? Do you think that possible? 

Theoretically possible, but in practice probably quite difficult! (Having thought about it some more!)

Main problems:

- The IR transmitters in the Transceiver are outputting at 455kHz - incompatible with the LG TV if done directly.

- The only signals that I am aware of that the transceiver has been designed to transmit are return signals for 2-way remotes such as BL5000/7000 and MCPs, plus LIGHT commands (and associated numbers, up down arrows, STOP command etc).  Even if you could get it to transmit these signals, you would need something to convert to a signal that is then understood by the TV.

- Although the two-way transceiver has an on-board microprocessor, it only has one external data connection (the white wire) which is used for data in both directions.  The challenge would be to work out how and what data signal signal to inject.  You may have to introduce a MCL2A or MCL2AV into the setup to at least provide a box that understands datalink, and then convert from ML to datalink somewhere else. 

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stefan replied on Sun, Jun 7 2020 1:09 PM

Beoworld member comeonbert creates PUCs with his own Puc generator, so it`s possible to control LG-, Samsung-, whatever TVs via BS3 or BS4, not just on/off, but the complete 3rd party TV with source selection, channel switch...

You can find comeonbert mainly in the german forum. I know him - he already made modifications to my BV AV9000 and other stuff more than 20 years ago.

https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/38809.aspx?PageIndex=3

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Thank you both for that information.  I wish I was more technically able. I am happy to tinker but not really able to go further. 

I know in my head what I want to do but can't "make" solutions. I can find workarounds, for example,  I dug out my old FLIRC USB dongle to control my FireTV using my Beo4. Trained the FLIRC using a PUC already in the PUC list and now I have full control of the FireTV. 

If I was more technical,  I could have used a Raspberry Pi and then could control the TV. I know I can use my round B&O eye to get IR into the Pi as I have seen that on these forums.

I have a Beo 5 and Beo 6 and am experimenting with them too. So far I have managed LG discrete ON/OFF and can go to each TV input directly.  It is very time-consuming and I do prefer my Beo 4. 

Stoobie 

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