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Ml/mcl converter and beomaster 5500

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cameron11 Posted: Tue, May 26 2020 4:34 PM

Does anybody know if it’s possible to have a beomaster 5500 in 1 room and play it as a source to a beosystem 3 in my tv room? I know it’s possible to play the beo3 as a source on the bm5500, but the bm5500 as the source is confusing me.

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Johan replied on Tue, May 26 2020 6:39 PM

Hi Cameron11, the title of your post is 'ML/MCL converter and BeoMaster 5500', do you have such a converter? If so, the best would be to run an MCL cable (not any Powerlink cable!) from the TV/AUX socket of the Beomaster into the ML/MCL converter. From there a MasterLink cable into the BeoSystem 3.

When you are in the TV room you should now be able to control the BeoMaster with your remote. By pressing A/V and then Radio, CD, Tape or any other source you will get the sound on the speakers connected to the BeoSystem.

The BeoSystem 3 should not be in energy saving mode. When you have a Beo4 remote you might or might not have an A/V button. If it doesn't you can add it under the LIST button. Both BeoSystem and BeoMaster in Option 2.

To me this would be the best way to get your babies to cooperate Smile

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cameron11 replied on Tue, May 26 2020 9:41 PM

Hi thanks for helping.  I have both systems but not the converter (yet). I’ve read that the mcl cable should be plugged into the speaker 2 terminal on the back of the bm5500, not the tv/aux. Am I wrong?

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Johan replied on Wed, May 27 2020 8:15 AM

Hi, looking at the connections of the 5500, I reckon it will be the TAPE 2/AUX connection. A round 7 pin DIN connector.

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Johan replied on Wed, May 27 2020 8:27 AM

It seems that I am wrong here and expecting that the 5500 is much more alike the 6500 than it is. Indeed the manuals of the 5500 and the MCL info on the site state that 'Speakers 2 - Left (L) and Right (R) cable connections for a Master Control Link installation'.

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Johan replied on Wed, May 27 2020 9:43 AM

It looks like you will need a quite special cable if that is the case. I think it would not be a bad idea to ask Steve (Sounds Heavenly) for some advice.

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Tassos replied on Wed, May 27 2020 10:37 AM

Hello Cameron,

you will need a beolink converter type 1611 (if you are located in Europe) or 1612 (if you are located in the States). A 7-pin male to male DIN cable and a Masterlink cable.

At the room that your BeoMaster is located you will install the beolink converter by connecting its aux socket (7-pin DIN) to the tape 2-aux socket of the beomaster. The Masterlink socket of the beolink converter has to be connected to the Masterlink socket of the biosystem 3. If the biosystem 3 is located in another room then you need to run a cable to the other room.

After you have completed all connections and both the beomaster and the biosystem is connected to mains you will connect the beolink converter to mains. You have to do so cause the beolink converter once connected to mains will try to "talk" to the products connected to the Masterlink network.

You will have to check the option programming of both beomaster and beosystem and if they are in separate rooms you need to put them both to option 2. In this option both products react to both video and audio commands.

If they are in the same room you have to put them to option 1 so they react only to their own commands (beomaster to audio, biosystem to video). If you want to "integrate" one product to the other, for example start both video and audio sources from Beosystem then you need to put biosystem to option 2 and beomaster to option 0 (ir blind).

 

Hope it helps.

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Guy replied on Wed, May 27 2020 10:38 AM

cameron11:

Hi thanks for helping.  I have both systems but not the converter (yet). I’ve read that the mcl cable should be plugged into the speaker 2 terminal on the back of the bm5500, not the tv/aux. Am I wrong?

The speaker 2 terminals are for an MCL system - these connectors should not be used for the setup you propose.

As mentioned by Johan, you need to use the Beolink Converter 1611 to convert your Beomaster 5500's datalink signals to Masterlink, which can then be passed over an ML cable to your BS3.  The connections stated by Johan are exactly what you need.

However, I understand that early versions of Beomaster 5500 did not support datalink, in which case the solution will not work!  Look at the post by tournedos at the end of this thread: https://archivedarchivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/41226/342442.aspx#342442

EDIT:  I posted at about the same time as Tassos - we both said the same, apart from my 'however' paragraph! 

 

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cameron11 replied on Thu, May 28 2020 5:11 PM

Thx for all the help guys, but there are alot of contradicting info.  My bm5500 doesnt have a datalink socket, so i think it has to be a 3 pin into the speaker terminal. Does anybody think it could be the ml/mcl converter because of lack of datalink.  If so what socket would the 3 pin out of the bm plug into?

 

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Guy replied on Thu, May 28 2020 7:02 PM

The TP2/AUX socket should have 7 holes.  The extra 2 pins are datalink, if fitted.

The 3-pins plugs (speaker 2) are for the older link system, MCL, and would have to go to either an MCL2A or an MC2AV in another room.

 

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Johan replied on Thu, May 28 2020 7:39 PM

cameron11, see also this beoworld page https://www.beoworld.org/article_view.asp?id=64 about 'datalink'

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