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Hi again,
Hi was gifted with a beolink 5000, perfect to cancel a timer on my haunted BS2300.Unfortunately, as usual, the screen is not well and the user guide (I have in genuine paper, do you believe that?) don't mention how to cancel timers.
Is there an easy key sequence i can press in the blind which will delete all timers on the Beosound?If so could someone tell it to me ?
It's sad to have that perfect condition remote useless because of that screen but on what I read here an here, it's not an easy fix…
matador43:Hi again, Hi was gifted with a beolink 5000, perfect to cancel a timer on my haunted BS2300. Unfortunately, as usual, the screen is not well and the user guide (I have in genuine paper, do you believe that?) don't mention how to cancel timers. Is there an easy key sequence i can press in the blind which will delete all timers on the Beosound?If so could someone tell it to me ? It's sad to have that perfect condition remote useless because of that screen but on what I read here an here, it's not an easy fix…
Yes, absolutely.
I bought it with the timer programmed to wake up the system everyday at 12h30.Aten searching and with the help from the forum I understood that the Beocenter 2300 can be timer programmed with a BL5000 or BL7000 even if it can't from the device itself.
Just tested with my 2-way 2300 and BL5000
Try this with the system at standby and the remote quite close to the sensor at the bottom. Pause a couple of seconds between each press:
PROG
DOWN
PLAY
STATUS
CLEAR
Come back to me if it doesn't work and I'll have another look.
EDIT: I think that you may have to repeat several times if there is more than one timer set.
Hi Guy,
Thats exactly what I was expecting for, Thank you.
Right now the timer awakes the system everyday minus Saturday.How many timers do you think it is ?
I'll try right now and will do it 7 times to be sure, but I'll know if it succeed only tomorrow at noon !
Also, do the system respond by any means?
Thank you again.
matador43:Yes, absolutely. I bought it with the timer programmed to wake up the system everyday at 12h30.Aten searching and with the help from the forum I understood that the Beocenter 2300 can be timer programmed with a BL5000 or BL7000 even if it can't from the device itself.
matador43: Right now the timer awakes the system everyday minus Saturday.How many timers do you think it is ? I'll try right now and will do it 7 times to be sure, but I'll know if it succeed only tomorrow at noon ! Also, do the system respond by any means?
Could be just one timer with the specific days chosen.
Not sure if the system responds .... sorry
No problem. Thank you for your help.
It's done, now lets wait until today!
It didn't work, the system turned itself on at 12h30
Guy, as i repeated the sequence several times may I have inadvertently turn it off and back on with the same sequence ?
Thanks for your help.
I'll go and have another play with mine. I will set a few timers and see if there is any difference when cancelling, and if there is any feedback from the lights on the unit.
One other thing: How can you be sure that the BL5000 is set up for two-way mode for audio? (Which it would need to be for setting or cancelling timers) (I will have a play and give you the button presses for setting this also.)
Give me a mo ...
Guy:How can you be sure that the BL5000 is set up for two-way mode for audio?
I can't. The display only shows some random point, just to know it works but thats all…
Ok, firstly how to make sure that the BL5000 is set up for two-way.
Red Button (Off)
SHIFT
MENU
You can do this in a room away from the BC2300 because there is no communication during setup. Because of this you only need a short pause between commands.
Note that the above will also put the remote in two-way for video commands. To avoid this, press the down arrow after the second PLAY, then continue as above.
I will now have a play with the timer again.
Further to the above, I think that the BL5000 also reverts to two-way as default if you remove and re-insert the batteries.
So I just programmed my BC2300 with three timer events, and can confirm that the button sequence that I gave last night just needs to be repeated to clear each event.
There is no indication from the BC2300 - the red light remains steady.
One thing that you could try is to view the IR transceiver bottom left of the BeoCenter through a smartphone camera and see if it is sending signals back to the BL5000 whilst you attempt to clear the timer. You could try this for something simple like volume control first, because if the two-way is working correctly it will send a signal to the BL5000 to allow a working screen to display the correct volume.
Also use a camera to check that the BL5000 transmits for all the button presses that you need to use in the above processes.
You probably need an assistant to hold the camera, and be aware that on some versions of iPhone you need to use the forward facing 'selfie' camera to observe IR.
Thanks for your time Guy,
Before entering with the above sequence I will assume that the remote is indeed in two way mode since it has been unpowered for a long time.I dont want to enter a wrong sequence or timing and mess it up.
If no one of our attempts work then I'll explore that track.
To be clear, the remote do work (source, volume, tracks, channels) On the BS2300 but not on a BS9000, which i believe, is a sign of two way mode.
Guy: and can confirm that the button sequence that I gave last night just needs to be repeated to clear each event.
and can confirm that the button sequence that I gave last night just needs to be repeated to clear each event.
So thats "stream" of 5 keys, right? Is there something I need to do, or time i have to wait between each round?
matador43:So thats "stream" of 5 keys, right? Is there something I need to do, or time i have to wait between each round?
Yes, just press the 5 keys one after the other. Wait a couple of seconds and then repeat.
If you do check the BC2300's IR transmitting, it should look like this when the lights flash:
And hold the remote quite close to the receiver because I have noticed that it is quite sensitive to distance and direction.
Ok, i'll try this afternoon and come back Monday, because Saturday there is no timer. All the days but Saturday .
This older posting talks about the Beolink 5000 user manual, and on page 20 of the PDF in the link there are instructions on reviewing and deleting timers
https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/23224.aspx.
It may help.
Stoobie
Thanks Stoobie,
The manual refer to action following displayed messages. Thats why I need a blind sequence…
A shame the display can't be fixed, this remote ans particularly the one I have is in a so perfect condition, I would like to have it working.
I should read the whole posting first
matador43:Hi was gifted with a beolink 5000, perfect to cancel a timer on my haunted BS2300.
So, all you want to do is cancel the timer function, right? I seem to recall this trick: When your Beosound 2300 is in 'standby' mode, press the 'mute' button on the Beosound (not remote). That should cancel the timer (if I recall correctly)
Good luck....
Hi MediaBobNY,
This is a common misunderstanding: pressing mute when standby, just mute the speaker but keep the timer active.If in standby, the Beocenter turns on if but the speakers keep quiet, If on playing any source it switch to the timer programmed source, in my case, radio.
Guy: matador43:So thats "stream" of 5 keys, right? Is there something I need to do, or time i have to wait between each round? Yes, just press the 5 keys one after the other. Wait a couple of seconds and then repeat. If you do check the BC2300's IR transmitting, it should look like this when the lights flash:
Hi, Guy
I've entered the sequence several times in a row with pauses in between.The BC2300 sensor did indeed react (visible from the naked eye) as follow:
PROG - No flash
DOWN - No flash
PLAY - No flash
STATUS - Flashes
CLEAR - Flashes, wait 3 sec and new stream of flashes.
I'll report after 12h30
^ That's the same flash sequence as mine - and I didn't realise that it is just visible with the naked eye!
Fingers crossed for 1230! 🤞
Didn't work today.
I will wait the whole week to see if it only cancelled some ones…
A thought: Perhaps the BC2300 was set to RECORD rather than PLAY at 1230hrs every day?
This is a bit more complicated to clear, because there are more options depending on whether you are recording to A.TAPE or V.TAPE - and of course this assumes that system was part of an interconnected system in the past.
I am guessing slightly, but I think to clear an A.TAPE recording timer, it would be as follows:
PLAY (Edited - I got PLAY and DOWN reverse when first posted, sorry)
And to clear a V.TAPE recording, it would be:
I have tested the above A.TAPE recording timer clear with my BC9500, and that sequence works. It seems to function the same on the BC2300, but obviously doesn't find anything when I press STATUS.
Then if i follow you well :
I may first try :
Meaning like initial scenario but with the correct sequence?
And if it dont work try the second sequence?
The "recording timer" makes sense! I mean who awakes avery day but saturday at 12h30?
Anyway. I will enter the sequence tonight and get back as soon I get a result.
Thank you Guy for the time you're spending on this !
For clarity:
As posted on 18 Jun, to cancel a PLAY timer the correct button sequence is:
But given that this didn't work, I am guessing that there is a RECORD timer set.
To cancel an A.TAPE record timer, the correct button sequence is:
And to cancel a V.TAPE record timer, the correct button sequence is:
So given that you have tried the first sequence and it didn't work, try the second and then the third sequence.
Of course, depending on the state of the internal battery the clock on the BC2300 may be incorrect if it has sat unused for a while. Hence 12h30 may not have been the original intention.
Hi Alls,
I've entered the three sequences several time, each time waiting for what I interpret as an acknowledgement from the system:After pressing "Clear", one pulse of the IR emitter, followed by 4 pulses after some seconds and 1 pulse 5-6 second after.
Unfortunately the system waked up again few minutes ago.
Are those sequences "toggle"? I mean, in my attempt to repeat them to clear every day, is it possible i just turned it on and off and on again ?
No they are not 'toggle' - pressing the CLEAR button should do just that. I can repeat the sequence without it setting more timers.
When I get a chance I will check the exact IR pulse acknowledgement sequence, to see if it agrees with your stated flashes and timings.
I suppose the lack of screen function could effect other functionality of the BL5000 - unusual but it wouldn't be the first time that seemingly independent components interfere (eg display lights in older Beomasters)
According to the service manual there is a way of resetting the BC2300. It states that it removes the 'presets', but I think that this may be Radio presets rather than Timer events - perhaps others are aware?
Guy:According to the service manual there is a way of resetting the BC2300. It states that it removes the 'presets', but I think that this may be Radio presets rather than Timer events
Can't recall where but I think we've already discuss that. If I remember correctly, BW member CB did try it and end up with an FM scale offset, so thats not a solution for me.
To be honest this is slowly become more of a challenge than an issue. The speakers are muted so there is no "armageddon" awakening!Just annoying at the worst when listening to multiroom music and the unit switch to radio.
Anyway; maybe I'm just missing something, a little detail…
OK, a couple of things to try:
1. In each of the sequences, leave a pause of 5 seconds between STATUS and CLEAR (I think the Beocenter needs this time to tell the remote the details of the next timer event, before it can be cleared).
2. At the end of each sequence, after the Beocenter's IR lights have stopped flashing, press STOP (I think pressing STOP clears the remote, ready to start a programming sequence again)
And some info with regards to the Beocenter's IR lights.
In each of the sequences, when I press STATUS:
- If no timer is set, the lights flash 4 times fast.
- If a timer is set, the lights flash 7 times fast. (This is logical because thew Beocenter is sending more info to the remote.)
And to confirm, when I get to the part where I press CLEAR:
- If no timer is set, I get one flash, followed by two flashes a few seconds later.
- If a timer is set, I get two flashes, followed by one flash a few seconds later.
...but I am really hoping that the requirement for a longer pause after STATUS is the solution!
Guy:OK, a couple of things to try:
Good night Guy,
I can't help but picture us like two crazy ethnologists trying to speak the IR language We're like two IR Champollions taking notes in front of our beocenters.
Anyway thanks again (4 IR flashes) for the time you take to observe all this. I'll try it and report as soon as I get a result.
All the best and good night (1 IR flash).
Yes this is certainly quite a challenge ... hopefully we'll get there in the end!
Hi everybody,
Here are the details of my attempt for today, following Guy's advices:
Play Timer:
PROG - DOWN - PLAY - STATUS (2 + 1 flashes) - CLEAR (no flashes) then STOP (2 flashes).
A.Record Timer:
PROG - PLAY - DOWN - STATUS (2 + 1 flashes) - CLEAR (no flashes) then STOP (2 flashes).
V-Record Timer:
PROG - PLAY - STATUS (1 flash) - CLEAR (2 flashes) then STOP (2 flashes).
Results as usual at 12h30, stay tuned!
If that doesn't help. Bring the BS2300 into testmode and erase it's presets and programs. Takes less than 5 minutes.
^^ I think that you put a not-needed DOWN in the V.Record clear sequence - presumably a typo?
Looking at the flashes when you press CLEAR, it would seem that V.TAPE record could be the culprit.
@Beobuddy: We discussed a RESET earlier in the thread, but matador43 was concerned about mucking up the FM offset (and anyway, this is far more fun! )
Guy:I think that you put a not-needed DOWN in the V.Record clear sequence - presumably a typo?
Yes it is. I will edit…
Beobuddy:Bring the BS2300 into testmode and erase it's presets and programs. Takes less than 5 minutes
Guy, is right! CB reports shifting in the FM range after fiddling with memories inside that unit. DOnt really know how it is related or relevant but i dont want to take the risk. The Service manual is also not very clear on what that would actually erase: FM station programs or Timer programs.