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Bang & Olufsen app 3.5 beta is out

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Alsfeld replied on Sat, Sep 5 2020 12:16 PM

tph:
Investing time in a highly interactive widgets on iOS might not make a lot of sense at this point in time – iOS 14 introduces significant changes to the widget API,

Thank very much for the feedback directly from B&O.
It would be nice to get feedback from B&O more often, what thoughts and ideas are behind it. This comment is not limited to app development.

But anyway, who needs a widget to open an app, I don't understand the use-case?

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mbolo01 replied on Sat, Sep 5 2020 12:50 PM
Alsfeld:

But anyway, who needs a widget to open an app, I don't understand the use-case?

Some lazy folks maybe, to save 1 click and a swipe ?

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I have been using the widget both on my iPhone and iPad. In fact it has made me use the B&O regularly vs. just AirPlaying to my speakers. I guess it just depends on your workflow. The convenience helps for me.

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  • Beolab 8002 + Beolab 2 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Office)
  • Beolab 6000 + Beolab 11 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Bedroom)
  • Beoplay A9 Mk2 (Living Room)
  • Beosound 1 with wireless dock (Portable)
  • Beosound Balance (Dining)
  • Beoplay H95 (Focused listening, travel)
  • Beoplay H9 (3rd gen) (retired)
  • Beoplay P6 (Portable)
  • Beotime wall clock (hallway entrance)
  • BMW X5 50i with B&O Audio Package (Commute/drive)

 

 

 

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mbolo01 replied on Sat, Sep 5 2020 1:17 PM
Jaffrey2230:

. The convenience helps for me.

Can you elaborate please? Where do you find it more convenient than directly open the app?

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ngnear replied on Sat, Sep 5 2020 1:54 PM
I have an Avant 55 MK1

Using the widget brings me directly to the remote control screen. Otherwise I need to start the app, select the TV and then select the remote screen.

So 1 click opposed to 3.

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ngnear:
I have an Avant 55 MK1

 

Using the widget brings me directly to the remote control screen. Otherwise I need to start the app, select the TV and then select the remote screen.

 

So 1 click opposed to 3.

 

 

Tim

If you would read my post on the previous page (Aug 16 2020 1:44 PM), you would see that I already described this behaviour.

However, this goes only for a V-product.

The widgets behave differently depending on whether a V- or an A-product is choosen.

MM

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Alsfeld replied on Sat, Sep 5 2020 4:34 PM

In my case I have 10 different icons displayed in the B&O widget. What ever icon I click, it just opens the app.
So I still not get it, I can open the app via the widget or directly. So 1 click vs. 1 click, where is the advantage?

OK there is no disadvantage, neither. That is probably the way how to see it.

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mbolo01 replied on Sat, Sep 5 2020 4:52 PM
Alsfeld:

What ever icon I click, it just opens the app.

It must go to the selected product page, so one step farer than just opening the app.

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Alsfeld replied on Sat, Sep 5 2020 5:49 PM

Unfortunately not on my iPad Pro 11 2018. But no need to fix it, I anyway see no benefit in the widget ;)
I would prefer that all the other bugs and issues on your list would be solved first.

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ngnear replied on Sat, Sep 5 2020 8:10 PM
Millemissen:

If you would read my post on the previous page ( Aug 16 2020 1:44 PM), you would see that I already described this behaviour.

However, this goes only for a V-product.

The widgets behave differently depending on whether a V- or an A-product is choosen.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

I was just giving mbolo01 my user case which is more convenient than starting the app and clicking through the menus.
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Which is perfectly ok!

It just adds to the fact that this ‘widget update’ works differently in different use cases.

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Which is perfectly ok!

It just adds to the fact that this ‘widget update’ works differently in different use cases.

MM

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Alsfeld replied on Sun, Sep 6 2020 10:27 AM

I installed the widget on my iPhone. There it seems to work correct.

But in my eyes it is even more useless than on my iPad. Because on my iPhone it opens the setting page of the selected audio speaker. I used this page once when I set up my new loudspeaker. And when everything is running smooth I never use this page.
For what reason do I need a widget to jump to page hopefully I never need ??? 

Or does the developers assume that technical problems with their products occur regularly and that the setting pages are therefore by far the most important?

Or does the widget on my iPhone is working incorrect, too?

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mbolo01 replied on Sun, Sep 6 2020 10:53 AM
Alsfeld:

Or does the widget on my iPhone is working incorrect, too?

The widget is working as expected on your iPhone.

That said, Mr Andersen is looking for ideas from the Beoworlders about what useful widgets would be.

The current attempt is .... an attempt

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Alsfeld replied on Sun, Sep 6 2020 11:43 AM

Then the icon should at least link to the currently playing screen. That would be from my viewpoint more logic.

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Beobuddy replied on Sun, Sep 6 2020 12:56 PM

Alsfeld:

Then the icon should at least link to the currently playing screen. That would be from my viewpoint more logic.

Imho I think that isn't.

The widget directs you to the same page as when you've selected it from the main page in the app. It gives you both the status at the bottom and the option to choose which source or multilink you want.

 

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mbolo01 replied on Sun, Sep 6 2020 1:05 PM
Beobuddy:

The widget directs you to the same page as when you've selected it from the main page in the app. It gives you both the status at the bottom and the option to choose which source or multilink you want.

Not on an iPhone where the product page you are redirected to by the widget does not expose the status nor the now playing controls at the bottom like on an iPad unless the app is already working in the background .... a bug in guess

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Tried that and indeed, only with the app in the background you get the status and sources. Without the app in the background you need to close the page and re-open it again to obtain the status and sources.

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Theater looks like a bug to me. 

B&O in my life 😊: 

 

  • Beolab 8002 + Beolab 2 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Office)
  • Beolab 6000 + Beolab 11 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Bedroom)
  • Beoplay A9 Mk2 (Living Room)
  • Beosound 1 with wireless dock (Portable)
  • Beosound Balance (Dining)
  • Beoplay H95 (Focused listening, travel)
  • Beoplay H9 (3rd gen) (retired)
  • Beoplay P6 (Portable)
  • Beotime wall clock (hallway entrance)
  • BMW X5 50i with B&O Audio Package (Commute/drive)

 

 

 

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On my iPhone running iOS14 beta, I go to the widget and click on Core icon and it takes me to the Core controls.

B&O in my life 😊: 

 

  • Beolab 8002 + Beolab 2 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Office)
  • Beolab 6000 + Beolab 11 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Bedroom)
  • Beoplay A9 Mk2 (Living Room)
  • Beosound 1 with wireless dock (Portable)
  • Beosound Balance (Dining)
  • Beoplay H95 (Focused listening, travel)
  • Beoplay H9 (3rd gen) (retired)
  • Beoplay P6 (Portable)
  • Beotime wall clock (hallway entrance)
  • BMW X5 50i with B&O Audio Package (Commute/drive)

 

 

 

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ngnear replied on Sun, Sep 6 2020 8:31 PM
New Beta version out this evening.

What does “Beosonic UI refresh” mean?
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mbolo01 replied on Sun, Sep 6 2020 8:53 PM
Jaffrey2230:

On my iPhone running iOS14 beta, I go to the widget and click on Core icon and it takes me to the Core controls.

Please try making sure the app is not already

running in the background and let us know (I also have IOS 14 beta)

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mbolo01 replied on Sun, Sep 6 2020 8:59 PM
To illustrate the with or without the app previously running in the bkg.

With:

Without:

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Hiort replied on Sun, Sep 6 2020 9:14 PM
ngnear:

New Beta version out this evening.

What does “Beosonic UI refresh” mean?

I guess this:

 

 

 

 

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mbolo01 replied on Sun, Sep 6 2020 9:41 PM
Hiort:

I guess this:

Yes, this is it, more important to change than fixing old issues

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Sorry. duplicate

B&O in my life 😊: 

 

  • Beolab 8002 + Beolab 2 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Office)
  • Beolab 6000 + Beolab 11 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Bedroom)
  • Beoplay A9 Mk2 (Living Room)
  • Beosound 1 with wireless dock (Portable)
  • Beosound Balance (Dining)
  • Beoplay H95 (Focused listening, travel)
  • Beoplay H9 (3rd gen) (retired)
  • Beoplay P6 (Portable)
  • Beotime wall clock (hallway entrance)
  • BMW X5 50i with B&O Audio Package (Commute/drive)

 

 

 

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You are right. If the app is not open the widget just opens the app. I guess I just have it running in the background all the time!

B&O in my life 😊: 

 

  • Beolab 8002 + Beolab 2 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Office)
  • Beolab 6000 + Beolab 11 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Bedroom)
  • Beoplay A9 Mk2 (Living Room)
  • Beosound 1 with wireless dock (Portable)
  • Beosound Balance (Dining)
  • Beoplay H95 (Focused listening, travel)
  • Beoplay H9 (3rd gen) (retired)
  • Beoplay P6 (Portable)
  • Beotime wall clock (hallway entrance)
  • BMW X5 50i with B&O Audio Package (Commute/drive)

 

 

 

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Sep 7 2020 8:36 AM
Jaffrey2230:

You are right. If the app is not open the widget just opens the app. I guess I just have it running in the background all the time!

And even though you see the product controls at the bottom, it is not linked to the product you selected via the widget but the latest used with the app.

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mbolo01 replied on Wed, Sep 9 2020 8:36 AM

Hiort:
mbolo01:

Multiroom icon misalignment "fixed" in latest 3.5 beta.
Note: I would have placed the multiroom icon just before the product type name, like it is placed in the iPhone version, for better look and consistency

Agree

Now really fixed in 3.6 beta!

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beojeff replied on Wed, Sep 9 2020 10:54 AM
I really wish some attention to the NL/ML Converter would be included. When the box is ticked in the NL/ML configuration for the app to control the converter with its connected speakers (rather than the Audio Master) it would seem logical for the app to display and control the sources that are mapped for the NL/ML IR control. Instead, the app still shows the sources from the primary and secondary devices linked to the converter.
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It’s been a while since this thread was active.

Any news?

How about adding the 4 MyButtons to the screen of each (compatiple) product - plenty of space at the top.

MM

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Seanie_230 replied on Thu, Sep 24 2020 11:38 AM

Hi there Bang and Olufsen Developers.

My question would be:

When / If the App will be available with some functionality on the Apple Watch.

when I am feeling lazy I can change the lights on my watch or HC on the Eclipse.

It would be great if it would even have limited functionality to turn volume of a zone up and down or turn the standby all function.

 

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jvezina replied on Sun, Sep 27 2020 3:19 PM

MrAndersen:

Hi all 

The 3.5 beta is out, try out the new widget that gives you quick access to product control. Let me know what you think including ideas for what this widget could be used for going forward.

Sign up for beta here: https://testflight.apple.com/join/Zre8WT18

Best regards

Thomas, Bang & Olufsen

Will the virtual keyboard for the Eclipse (I think it should also work for the Harmony and Stage) be eventually be implemented ?

I notice that the numerical keyboard in the app is already able to supply numbers in the fields, so adding alphabetic characters and symbols would be possible.

Thanks,

Jean

 

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mbolo01 replied on Sun, Sep 27 2020 4:22 PM

I have added all the recent App requests for enhancements that I could find in the appropriate section of the below post, including the requester's pseudo.

https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/41967/306056.aspx#306056

feel free to suggest more and I'll add them to the list for MrAndersen & team to have a single reference.

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