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Hi guys
Question have an old ml system has worked fine for many years, have updated some of the older equipment to hd sets, bvis 7-55 in main room with beosound 9000 and 7-40, bvis 10-46, beocenter 6-26 and beovision 9,as well as some link speakers, all work fine, there is now a v1-40 which does not have ml, so I will need the nl ml converter. Will this allow pulling through sky and dvd from main system onto the v1 and what is the advantage of this with the older bvis, thanks for any feedback
Both NL and ML is about audio/sound - you won’t be able to distribute video/picture that way.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Hi mm
With the older link systems I have connected the devices via scart as you know on the other tvs in the house I can watch sky dvd on any bang and olufsen tv on the house as long as use the rf from the main set this works well with full control with the bang and olufsen remote, what I was wondering care you able to do the same thing with beoplay v1 40 using ml nl convertor, and is there any benefit with nl system over the ml system
That won’t work!
However, if the antenna cable is running from the BV7 with the modulated signals/rf from these 2 sources - just like when it is running to the BV10, you could use the analog tuner in the V1 to make two presets for just these frequenzies.
This way, however you will only be able to see, what is activated on the BV7 - no controllig from the V1!
But, why not just get a second Sky-box or a smartcard to open up these channels.....if your service provider allows for that.
(By the way, do you with SKY mean a satelite receiver or?)
Maybe there is an app from your (SKY)provider for the ATV - which could be connected to the V1.
And are you really in need of wanting to watch a DVD on the V1, you must ask yourself?
If yes and once in a while - it is pretty easy (and cheap) to buy and connect an extra player to the V1.
Most people nowadays don’t have a player for physical media, since a lot of services provide video content via e.g. an ATV-box.
The benefit of NL lies somewhere else.
It is a multiroom and multisource protocol.
With ML you can only distribute sound from a master to a slave.
NL works both ways - meaning (if you have the converter), you could use the built-in internetradio of the V1 through your BV7/BS9000, or the sound from your BS9000/CD’s through the V1......
Since you won’t be able to do, what you initially asked for, you must ask yourself: how do I want to use the V1?
Hope this helps a bit.
Thank you for the explanation yes that what i was doing I just thought that with the v1 that I could use the ml nl converter and that would allow to function the same as the older bvis TVs,. Sky in the UK it's not an app yet but I'm pretty sure it will down that route. I think there is no point in the converter I have sonos plugged into the main tv which I can distribute to almost the other TVs, which means I cant play that on the v1 either, I have not tried yet but are there any apps you would recommend on the tv or is it better to go for an ATV?
Firstly, thanks for clarifying....SKY can mean different things depending on where you are located.
Secondly, forget about apps on the V1........that ‘smarttv’ platform is way out of time.
Just connect an ATV4 (not the K version).for all kinds of apps/services
This way you also can airplay to it (and listen on the V1) from your Sonos setup.
That is, if you are using an iOS device.
N.B. You could also use a Sonos Port for adding the V1 to your Sonos setup.
Best use the digital out on the Port to connect it to the digital coax input on the V1 (feel free to ask more).
P.S. With the converter installed you could skip that and just distribute the Sonos sound from your BV7 to the V1.
Hey mm
Thank you for the reply, i have set up so sonos will play through all TVs with vmem command and it works well, i know i wont be able to play that on v1, it's more the the sky on that tv, only option as you say would be to use an active kit tune tv into to channel 1 then use external eye with remote that way we can watch the sources alternative would be to use an hd matrix but I'm guessing bang and olufsen will only work with one manfacture ?
Well, using a masterlinked ActiveLink in the room with the V1 would give you control of the BV/Sky box.
However you would have to fiddle a bit with the remote.....since both will receive the commands.
Usually you will have to use TV for activating the V1-tuner and V.Mem to activate and control the Sky box.
Give it a go, if you have a spare Active Link and there is a ML cable already in that room.
B&O tested matrix solutions and found that the atlona devices are best fitted - there might be other matrix solutions, that could work.
If that really is worth the efford, you must know.
With so much trouble (and all your ML) I’d be tempted to swap the V1 for another ML compatible BV.
Don’t get me wrong - I absolutely love my V1-32, would not want to miss it. But each user case is different.
MM is correct that the Atlona matrix is the recommended solution for HD video distribution. I installed an Altona matrix to distribute 4 video sources among 4 BeoVisions/BeoSystems. The feature is already built-in to BeoVisions/BeoSystems and just needs to be activated with a code that is purchased from your B&O dealer. Your BeoVision might also need a PUC update. The feature activation can be rather expensive. I was fortunate that my dealer was kind enough to activate all of mine at no cost. Still, it's quite an investment for the hardware, and I find that the matrix at times needs to go through a power cycle to re-establish connections.
All of that being said, I feel that the matrix is no longer as relevant as it once was. Having multiple Apple TVs can provide a very similar experience. Multiple ATVs synchronize so that you have a seamless experience moving from one tv to another. The video picks up right where you left off. I only use the physical media of blu-rays when I'm in the mood for a full-theater experience with the best possible sound on my 7.1.4 surround sound in the living room.Otherwise, I'm happy with streaming video. In the U.S. my cable provider, Spectrum, has an app on the ATV that actually provides even better picture quality than the set top box. Hopefully you might receive a similar app soon.
Hi beojeff
I do agree with both of you there is no point in investing that amount of money in a matrix when an apple tv or similar box can do the trick, and you can play multiple items at any one time on the ATV, thanks again to you and mm for the advice, I think we will go for apple tvs, although I do like the nivida shield as well